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Large scale military conflict, potentially resulting in wiping us off the face of the Earth - but more likely in the deaths of hundreds of millionsCovered End said:
What do you mean by that ?Leroy Ambrose said:Eerily reminiscent of the thirties isn't it?
We won't last another 20 years. Probably more like 10.0 -
At least we wont have to worry about Roland..Leroy Ambrose said:
Large scale military conflict, potentially resulting in wiping us off the face of the Earth - but more likely in the deaths of hundreds of millionsCovered End said:
What do you mean by that ?Leroy Ambrose said:Eerily reminiscent of the thirties isn't it?
We won't last another 20 years. Probably more like 10.
(BTW - no need to panic - your apoclyptic thoughts are as likely as Karel managing in the premier League)1 -
Really? Why do you say that? History teaches us that we can't function as a species for more than about fifty years at a time, on average, without trying to wipe each other out en masse. Just because we're all 'connected' now, doesn't mean that won't happen again - just that it'll be worse when it doesSporadicAddick said:
At least we wont have to worry about Roland..Leroy Ambrose said:
Large scale military conflict, potentially resulting in wiping us off the face of the Earth - but more likely in the deaths of hundreds of millionsCovered End said:
What do you mean by that ?Leroy Ambrose said:Eerily reminiscent of the thirties isn't it?
We won't last another 20 years. Probably more like 10.
(BTW - no need to panic - your apoclyptic thoughts are as likely as Karel managing in the premier League)2 -
@stonemuse
This France no confidence vote you post of.
It is not reported in the Guardian, the BBC, or on France 24.
I hesitate to suggest that you have been 'fake-newsed" but such votes are quite common in France. I am reminded that there were two in July.
Certainly no politically aware Brit should be gleefully posting about chaos in any other country at this time.
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No idea, saw it on a quite a few tweets and assumed was correct. It was also posted by someone on the Brexit thread.PragueAddick said:@stonemuse
This France no confidence vote you post of.
It is not reported in the Guardian, the BBC, or on France 24.
I hesitate to suggest that you have been 'fake-newsed" but such votes are quite common in France. I am reminded that there were two in July.
Certainly no politically aware Brit should be gleefully posting about chaos in any other country at this time.
If not true, fair enough.
Incidentally, where do you get the impression that I am 'gleefully posting'? You do enjoy misinterpreting at times.
https://euronews.com/2018/12/12/gilets-jaunes-left-leaning-mps-table-motion-of-no-confidence-in-french-government
xinhuanet.com/english/2018-12/12/c_137666936.htm0 -
It might be true but not considered the big deal that the tweet implies. You know the French! Certainly all three outlets I mentioned are full on on the Strasbourg situation, so it's not as if they are not covering French political events today (especially France 24!!).stonemuse said:
No idea, saw it on a quite a few tweets and assumed was correct. It was also posted by someone on the Brexit thread.PragueAddick said:@stonemuse
This France no confidence vote you post of.
It is not reported in the Guardian, the BBC, or on France 24.
I hesitate to suggest that you have been 'fake-newsed" but such votes are quite common in France. I am reminded that there were two in July.
Certainly no politically aware Brit should be gleefully posting about chaos in any other country at this time.
If not true, fair enough.
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see some links abovePragueAddick said:
It might be true but not considered the big deal that the tweet implies. You know the French! Certainly all three outlets I mentioned are full on on the Strasbourg situation, so it's not as if they are not covering French political events today (especially France 24!!).stonemuse said:
No idea, saw it on a quite a few tweets and assumed was correct. It was also posted by someone on the Brexit thread.PragueAddick said:@stonemuse
This France no confidence vote you post of.
It is not reported in the Guardian, the BBC, or on France 24.
I hesitate to suggest that you have been 'fake-newsed" but such votes are quite common in France. I am reminded that there were two in July.
Certainly no politically aware Brit should be gleefully posting about chaos in any other country at this time.
If not true, fair enough.0 -
I was referring to the tweets. Thanks for the links. I think the last line of the Euronews report confirms what I suggested above:stonemuse said:
No idea, saw it on a quite a few tweets and assumed was correct. It was also posted by someone on the Brexit thread.PragueAddick said:@stonemuse
This France no confidence vote you post of.
It is not reported in the Guardian, the BBC, or on France 24.
I hesitate to suggest that you have been 'fake-newsed" but such votes are quite common in France. I am reminded that there were two in July.
Certainly no politically aware Brit should be gleefully posting about chaos in any other country at this time.
If not true, fair enough.
Incidentally, where do you get the impression that I am 'gleefully posting'? You do enjoy misinterpreting at times.
https://euronews.com/2018/12/12/gilets-jaunes-left-leaning-mps-table-motion-of-no-confidence-in-french-government
xinhuanet.com/english/2018-12/12/c_137666936.htm
More than 100 such motions have been filed since 1958 with only one being passed, in 1962, bringing down the government of Georges Pompidou.
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MAY SHOCK: British prime minister faces NO CONFIDENCE vote TOMORROW - Britain in chaos...stonemuse said:
(except no one's noticed because Christmas is more important)
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Context, mate, context. Something in short supply when Brits wade into the politics of other EU countiessstonemuse said:
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Massive generalisation there, Rich.PragueAddick said:
Context, mate, context. Something in short supply when Brits wade into the politics of other EU countiessstonemuse said:
We must remember that it's only a small minority of Brits that lack context when wading in to the politics of other 'countiess' and that shouldn't be used as a representation of all.0 -
But what context? This is a GiletsJaunes thread.PragueAddick said:
Context, mate, context. Something in short supply when Brits wade into the politics of other EU countiessstonemuse said:
Obviously I am being thick again because I see no context in relating this issue to May.2 -
Yeah.PragueAddick said:
Context, mate, context. Something in short supply when Brits wade into the politics of other EU countiessstonemuse said:
How dare we insular Brits discuss the political situation going on with our near neighbours when only very few of us can quote verbatim the Constitution of the Fifth Republic or sing La Marseillaise.1 -
All the protesters might as well come back and support the team then, if we've only got 10 years left.SporadicAddick said:
At least we wont have to worry about Roland..Leroy Ambrose said:
Large scale military conflict, potentially resulting in wiping us off the face of the Earth - but more likely in the deaths of hundreds of millionsCovered End said:
What do you mean by that ?Leroy Ambrose said:Eerily reminiscent of the thirties isn't it?
We won't last another 20 years. Probably more like 10.
(BTW - no need to panic - your apoclyptic thoughts are as likely as Karel managing in the premier League)0 -
You're not allowed an opinion unless you know every page of their political history.Addickted said:
Yeah.PragueAddick said:
Context, mate, context. Something in short supply when Brits wade into the politics of other EU countiessstonemuse said:
How dare we insular Brits discuss the political situation going on with our near neighbours when only very few of us can quote verbatim the Constitution of the Fifth Republic or sing La Marseillaise.0 -
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I took him to make the same point as I did, that the tweet is hopelessly over-dramatising the importance of a so-called VoC in France, which we now learn, thanks to your own link, are as common as croissants in France, whereas here we have one which further complicates the UK's biggest crisis since WW2. So, you know, people in glasshouses...stonemuse said:
But what context? This is a GiletsJaunes thread.PragueAddick said:
Context, mate, context. Something in short supply when Brits wade into the politics of other EU countiessstonemuse said:
Obviously I am being thick again because I see no context in relating this issue to May.
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People are perfectly entitled to comment on what they wish. How well informed they are is quite another matter.
I am afraid much of the comment is a poor interpretation of events.
I attach an informed independent perspective "sans" the usual mindless stereotypical comment on which some seem to thrive.
https://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/explained-the-yellow-vest-protests-that-brought-france-to-a-standstill-1.800790
I feel sure there will be many in the UK who can align with the nature of the challenges which have prompted not only the protests but the current 70% tacit approval within the population across the country.
The irony of those seeking to position such challenges as evidence of the failings of the EU is beyond delicious.
The entire debate is wrapped around Macron "economics" favouring the "metropolitan elite". His influence on government policies resemble so much of the Blairite centrist socialism which in truth was anything but.
His policies on executive pay and corporate freedoms merely reflect his background in Rothschild where he became a millionaire socialist. As with the austerity programmes of the UK his regeneration of the French GDP was designed to be built on the back of those in society who could least afford it.
He is a self serving political opportunistic. He is being called to account.
You will forgive me if I "pmsl" at the thought of someone seeking to denigrate those choosing to mildly stand up for their cause through minor civil disobedience while choosing to slink away to their keyboard warrior persona to "pmsl".
As always in life there are those who seek to act in the common interest and those that sit sniping from the sidelines. I feel certain such sectors of society as beneficiaries of the protest will feel duty bound to donate their "Green Tax" to the French Treasury.
I have French and Dutch friends (lived in France for 30yrs) who struggle to survive within the current regime of employment bureaucracy and social welfare.
I am delighted their voices have been heard. It was long, long, overdue. That it needed to go to the lengths of protest it did, on this occasion, says a great deal more about the nature of the establishment than those who took to the streets.
As with the referendum GIlet Jaunes may well have opened a bigger can of worms than anyone anticipated.
There is much wrong with the structure of French society but I strongly suggest with the Brexit debacle we are the last people who should feel comfortable deriding the challenges of others.
Lazy stereotypical judgemental labelling without understanding the issues at hand serves no one.
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Certainly not intended to open a full on discussion on Brexit on this thread.stonemuse said:
But what context? This is a GiletsJaunes thread.PragueAddick said:
Context, mate, context. Something in short supply when Brits wade into the politics of other EU countiessstonemuse said:
Obviously I am being thick again because I see no context in relating this issue to May.
Just paraphrasing the caption to the Macron picture and comment above.
The parallel I found irresistible, sorry.
It's not meant to mean anything more that.
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