#GiletsJaunes
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AFKA, I think you may be confusing these people with the leaders of the Tour de France, who also wear a yellow jacket.AFKABartram said:Are there two different protests going on?
Keep hearing about the Yellow Jacket Protest but then I see hashtags for some #giletsjaunes Protest as well?
What’s going on out there?
Confused from Sidcup
Unless it's a Tour de France winners convention, which in that case there won't be many French men present;-)
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The magic money tree.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
You tell meLeuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
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As I have long stated the challenges facing people across the EU are precisely the same as those in the UK.
Referencing the Gilet Jaunes is almost a mirror image of Brexit.
People across France have taken to the streets in peaceable protest to an inequitable "Green" fuel tax. It has to this point been a one issue protest which has a strong support across the rural areas of France. 90% of people around here, me included, display their Gilet Jaunes next to their windscreens through the week and many will often don them for Saturday protests.
The protest succeeded.
The French government has suspended the fuel tax increase.
Having achieved that success some protestors have unsurprisingly chosen to go further in their demands.
The list of "demands" one group has chosen to put together will NOT reflect the views of the vast majority of those 90%. As per Brexit just because one "unknown" section of the disenchanted and disenfranchised has espoused its particular challenges to the administration it cannot be assumed it has universal support.
It doesn't.
However in a democracy people are allowed to express their views of their society and pursue protest within the law. Clearly there are those who will not feel bound by the latter condition.
Seizing on such circumstance as a typical view which will undermine the fabric of government of France is beyond ridiculous.
France has major problems but there is zero appetite to leave the EU. Nor is there any overriding demand or expectation of halving levels of taxation. What the protests do reflect is the divisions within too many Western Democracies between the have and have nots.
Macron, elected as per Trump as the non establishment candidate, has pursued policies which as per the UK Conservative government over the past decades have merely served to exacerbate those differences.
The French however recognise where the responsibilities for those failures lay........with National Government.
Whatever your political views and recognising there will be extremes who will exploit either side of the argument I find the protests quite reassuring.
In these days of jaundiced self interest, apparent impotent lethargy and keyboard warriors it is good to know there still exists somewhere the groundswell of opinion possessing an appetite for a battle (within the law) in defence of "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternity".13 -
I thought the DUP got that!smudge7946 said:
The magic money tree.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
You tell meLeuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
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Popped down to Brive to get some bits and there's a relatively minor round a bout with about 30 to 40 people (5/6 of em got faces covered and dressed like hunt sabs) stood at each entrance and pallets blocking the roads. Every 10 minutes (we timed it), they slide the pallets out the way and let everyone go pmsl.0
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What is your problem with people who went to public school Henry? It didn't seem to diminish Joe Strummer's opportunities much.Henry Irving said:"Frenchman got a problem
He don't mind throwing a brick
Brits watch reality TV
Where they teach you how to be thick.
And everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
And nobody wants
To go to jail.
Brit riot
I wanna riot
Brit riot
A riot of my own."
With apologies to Mick Jones and Joe Strummer.
NB for people under 50s or who went to public school this is not a serious political statement.0 -
As someone who has spent a lot of time round there, I can't imagine people doing that. Amazing to hear that even the people round there are being mobilised.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Popped down to Brive to get some bits and there's a relatively minor round a bout with about 30 to 40 people (5/6 of em got faces covered and dressed like hunt sabs) stood at each entrance and pallets blocking the roads. Every 10 minutes (we timed it), they slide the pallets out the way and let everyone go pmsl.
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WhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooshChizz said:
What is your problem with people who went to public school Henry? It didn't seem to diminish Joe Strummer's opportunities much.Henry Irving said:"Frenchman got a problem
He don't mind throwing a brick
Brits watch reality TV
Where they teach you how to be thick.
And everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
And nobody wants
To go to jail.
Brit riot
I wanna riot
Brit riot
A riot of my own."
With apologies to Mick Jones and Joe Strummer.
NB for people under 50s or who went to public school this is not a serious political statement.0 -
Why why why Delila?0
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......daddy was a.....bank robberHenry Irving said:
WhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooshChizz said:
What is your problem with people who went to public school Henry? It didn't seem to diminish Joe Strummer's opportunities much.Henry Irving said:"Frenchman got a problem
He don't mind throwing a brick
Brits watch reality TV
Where they teach you how to be thick.
And everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
And nobody wants
To go to jail.
Brit riot
I wanna riot
Brit riot
A riot of my own."
With apologies to Mick Jones and Joe Strummer.
NB for people under 50s or who went to public school this is not a serious political statement.2 -
...sorry I thought that was the symbol intro1
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#sans-culottes0
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As an act of EU solidarity, the German army should be sent in. They have a fantastic record sorting out gobby frogs.1
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Whilst I get your third Reich reference the German police would have snuffed this out before it gathered pace. Rightly or wrongly they are the most violent and brutal police force I have ever witnessed in actionsmudge7946 said:As an act of EU solidarity, the German army should be sent in. They have a fantastic record sorting out gobby frogs.
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I'd argue that comes with a small tax increase for some people...SantaClaus said:
Selective sterilisation/euthanasia combined with re-establishing the empire.Leuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
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If you run your empire properly it can be quite the money spinner. Anyway You can't put a price on Lebensraum.SDAddick said:
I'd argue that comes with a small tax increase for some people...SantaClaus said:
Selective sterilisation/euthanasia combined with re-establishing the empire.Leuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
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Put it on tea - just for the colonials.SDAddick said:
I'd argue that comes with a small tax increase for some people...SantaClaus said:
Selective sterilisation/euthanasia combined with re-establishing the empire.Leuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
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No representation without taxationAddickted said:
Put it on tea - just for the colonials.SDAddick said:
I'd argue that comes with a small tax increase for some people...SantaClaus said:
Selective sterilisation/euthanasia combined with re-establishing the empire.Leuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
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We now go live to SDAddick's front lawn:Addickted said:
Put it on tea - just for the colonials.SDAddick said:
I'd argue that comes with a small tax increase for some people...SantaClaus said:
Selective sterilisation/euthanasia combined with re-establishing the empire.Leuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
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So violence works then. Macron has given in to what they generally wanted.0
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The Welsh should learn from that.WelshAddick said:So violence works then. Macron has given in to what they generally wanted.
Forget road signs and holiday homes. Get on the streets and get what you want.2 -
remember the anti poll tax riots soon got rid of ThatcherWelshAddick said:So violence works then. Macron has given in to what they generally wanted.
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I was speaking to one of my French colleagues at lunch, and he was saying he believes the protests will continue in France, as it widely believed that Macron has simply deferred the changes that the government had planned - so they believe in 6 months time, it will be a siatuation where all the changes and increases will be implemented anyway.
Astonishingly, when i asked him about Macrons popularity, he said it stood at about 10 per cent of the population at present, He indicated that Elections are in 18 months time where it is almost certain that Macron will not be re-elected, however, seemingly the only party gaining in popularity is the right-wing. Its a concern throughout Europe where right-wing is gaining popularity in most countries within the EU.1 -
Eerily reminiscent of the thirties isn't it?
We won't last another 20 years. Probably more like 10.0 -
I thought the next elections were not until 2022?The_President said:I was speaking to one of my French colleagues at lunch, and he was saying he believes the protests will continue in France, as it widely believed that Macron has simply deferred the changes that the government had planned - so they believe in 6 months time, it will be a siatuation where all the changes and increases will be implemented anyway.
Astonishingly, when i asked him about Macrons popularity, he said it stood at about 10 per cent of the population at present, He indicated that Elections are in 18 months time where it is almost certain that Macron will not be re-elected, however, seemingly the only party gaining in popularity is the right-wing. Its a concern throughout Europe where right-wing is gaining popularity in most countries within the EU.0 -
And Roland will still be in charge!!Leroy Ambrose said:Eerily reminiscent of the thirties isn't it?
We won't last another 20 years. Probably more like 10.
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What do you mean by that ?Leroy Ambrose said:Eerily reminiscent of the thirties isn't it?
We won't last another 20 years. Probably more like 10.0 -
You are correct.stonemuse said:
I thought the next elections were not until 2022?The_President said:I was speaking to one of my French colleagues at lunch, and he was saying he believes the protests will continue in France, as it widely believed that Macron has simply deferred the changes that the government had planned - so they believe in 6 months time, it will be a siatuation where all the changes and increases will be implemented anyway.
Astonishingly, when i asked him about Macrons popularity, he said it stood at about 10 per cent of the population at present, He indicated that Elections are in 18 months time where it is almost certain that Macron will not be re-elected, however, seemingly the only party gaining in popularity is the right-wing. Its a concern throughout Europe where right-wing is gaining popularity in most countries within the EU.
The French still enjoy a good lunch...
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Is that the pre-match warm up for tonights match?SDAddick said:
We now go live to SDAddick's front lawn:Addickted said:
Put it on tea - just for the colonials.SDAddick said:
I'd argue that comes with a small tax increase for some people...SantaClaus said:
Selective sterilisation/euthanasia combined with re-establishing the empire.Leuth said:How can you halve taxes and expect better public services?
Pompey striker preparing to shoot, while the Charlton defence (in red in the background) are milling around wondering who to mark?
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