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England Cricket - Summer of 2018

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    Addickted2TheReds said:

    How many down by close then? :-)

    Two
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Addickted2TheReds said:

    How many down by close then? :-)

    Jennings for sure. Cook probably
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    LenGlover said:

    Given how crap England's top order has been more often than not and the players that have tried and failed what does Hildreth have to do to get a go?

    Could he be a David Steele for the 21st Century?

    Hildreth has a very similar batting average to Foakes this season.
    Pope and Burns are by far and away the best averages this season for English qualified

  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Jennings batting here for his immediate career methinks.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,734
    The_President said:

    Jennings batting here for his immediate career methinks.

    Hope he gets out then
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    edited August 2018
    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,308
    The worst case scenario is Jennings to hit a score in defeat here
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,735
    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    Surely you can get both Currans, Borthwick, Roy, Stoneman and Pope in too?
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,734
    Addick Addict said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    Surely you can get both Currans, Borthwick, Roy, Stoneman and Pope in too?
    I wonder if he'd be saying that if they had some t20 action coming up... :-)
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Addick Addict said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    Surely you can get both Currans, Borthwick, Roy, Stoneman and Pope in too?
    Then we can talk about loaning in some Kent players to keep our championship push on track - might be the only time some Kent players are involved in a title winning team.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Addick Addict said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    Surely you can get both Currans, Borthwick, Roy, Stoneman and Pope in too?
    But, seriously, as i mentioned above , Pope and Burns are miles ahead average wise, of anyone else with a serious number of games under their belt this season (85 and 67 respectively) and Foakes has an average of 47.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,904
    cantersaddick said:

    I wonder how many times yesterday Joe Root looked around his field and wished he had a bowler that offered something different to mix it up and try and get a wicket.

    I dunno perhaps a left arm quick. Perhaps one who is a bit shorter than all our other bowlers and so has a different release point and makes the ball skid on. We woefully lacked variation yesterday.

    Addick Addict said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    Surely you can get both Currans, Borthwick, Roy, Stoneman and Pope in too?
    You're forgetting Virdi!
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,734
    Get that pretty boy Jade in, this Jimmy bloke is shite...
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,735
    cantersaddick said:

    cantersaddick said:

    I wonder how many times yesterday Joe Root looked around his field and wished he had a bowler that offered something different to mix it up and try and get a wicket.

    I dunno perhaps a left arm quick. Perhaps one who is a bit shorter than all our other bowlers and so has a different release point and makes the ball skid on. We woefully lacked variation yesterday.

    Addick Addict said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    Surely you can get both Currans, Borthwick, Roy, Stoneman and Pope in too?
    You're forgetting Virdi!
    And Freddie Van Der What'shisname too
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    But then I’d drop Buttler and we’re back to the same problem. We can’t have a specialist batter coming in in the lower middle order. He needs to be doing something else so give him the gloves or drop him for Foakes.

    My team would be Cook, Jennings, Burns, Root, Stokes, Pope, Buttler, Woakes, Rashid, Broad, Anderson
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,734
    499 runs to win...
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,904
    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Bairstow out, Burns in at 3 and Buttler gets the gloves. Move Root and Pope down a spot each to four and five. Can’t see any other changes as of right now.

    If Jennings fails again, he has to go too.
    But for who if Burns is already (presumably) coming in for Bairstow? JB’s injury may be Jennings’ saving grace for at least one more Test...
    Burns for Jennings, Foakes for Bairstow (and keeps wicket)
    But then I’d drop Buttler and we’re back to the same problem. We can’t have a specialist batter coming in in the lower middle order. He needs to be doing something else so give him the gloves or drop him for Foakes.

    My team would be Cook, Jennings, Burns, Root, Stokes, Pope, Buttler, Woakes, Rashid, Broad, Anderson
    Same but Foakes for Buttler.
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,956
    23-0 cop.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,734
    @Callumcafc @cantersaddick

    Jennings??
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    I really think Roy is worth a go as opener.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Another possibilty that hasnt been explored is to look at Rashids value over the 3 tests. I know AA might think otherwise but i think he's played a bit part in all 3 Tests - maybe time to get him out, get Sam in, et voila...variety plus increased strength in batting, and we just bomb them with 5 'quicks'
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    Addickted2TheReds said:

    @Callumcafc @cantersaddick

    Jennings??

    Dropped for Bairstow when he’s ready to return.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    498 to win, easy, Wednesday afternoon, Jennings hits the winning runs to take him to 302 not out
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,237
    Riviera said:

    I really think Roy is worth a go as opener.

    I think he's worth a place in the side, maybe not opening but at 4 or 5 definitely
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,599
    only need 2.76 runs per over......2 days to get 498 runs. Easy.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Unless he scores more than 50 here, i cant see Jennings in the next Test. His technique is a liability, and comes over as a walking wicket. Needs to go back and sort out his failings.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,735
    The_President said:

    Another possibilty that hasnt been explored is to look at Rashids value over the 3 tests. I know AA might think otherwise but i think he's played a bit part in all 3 Tests - maybe time to get him out, get Sam in, et voila...variety plus increased strength in batting, and we just bomb them with 5 'quicks'

    7 wickets (including a couple of vital ones such as Kohli who he has got out 4 times in Tests) @ 26.71 says he is a big part of the team.

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