FIFA say the Qatar vote was fine, honest
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be interesting to see how many fan parks there are in the UK in mid-december...iaitch said:Be interesting to see how many fans would go to Qatar. Is it an interesting place? Can't imagine a lot of bars, assume drinking is allowed there but probably quite expensive.
how many works xmas parties are going to be hijacked & turned into a World Cup party or the event changed at the last minute to a place that is showing football. A lot of pissed off & disgruntled office workers I suspect......not everyone likes football.....esp at xmas when people have other things on their mind.0 -
Beyond farce. Unbelievable really that no international FA is prepared to call this ridiculous situation out for what it is.
Seriously f*** Qatar, f*** the crooked countries who voted for this and f*** FIFA. Can't believe how angry this is making me when it's still four years away...6 -
WC has always been a summer tournament & was bid on such a premise. Now FIFA want to change 80 years of history because the country hosting it doesn't have the climate.
I'm just waiting for Greenland to bid for the 2030 one.2 -
They've chosen the wrong competition to get experience.Callumcafc said:Qatar will be playing in next year's Copa America....
Should have entered the Checkatrade Trophy
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That renders the whole thing utterly pointless then, doesn't it? I though the idea was that it was a "soft launch" for the World Cup - if it's not in the same f***ing country it's a waste of time.Callumcafc said:http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifa-strips-qatar-of-confederations-cup-1.2973534
"The Confederations Cup, considered an important dress rehearsal, will not be held in Qatar in the lead-up to the 2022 World Cup, FIFA announced"
They can't play Confed Cup in Qatar in the summer and they can't move another European season to accommodate it so it will be hosted by a completely different Asian country.4 -
Just found this online from the Sports Illustrated site:
FIFA president Gianni Infantino is looking to continue his complete overhaul of international football with a proposed new tournament that will replace the Confederations Cup.
In a letter received by Reuters, Infantino lays out plans for the project that is currently only titled ‘Final 8.’ The tournament would be a direct follow on from the upcoming Nations League, taking place every two years as of October and/or November 2021.
The Confederations Cup is a trophy competed for by the seven current reigning continental or world champions and a host nation, in every odd year following a round of continental tournaments. Teams qualify by winning either UEFA European Championship, CAF Cup of Nations, CONCACAF Gold Cup, CONMEBOL Copa America, OFC Nations Cup, AFC Asian Cup or FIFA World Cup.
The next tournament is currently scheduled to take place in Qatar 2021 but that could now be scrapped in favour of the new format. With dwindling interest in the tournament, Infantino believes an overhaul could prove popular and reportedly already has a ‘solid and serious’ group of investors ready to spend up to $25 billion on it.
The letter did not clearly indicate how qualification will work or how many slots would be allocated to each region. It will serve as a climax to the Nations League though, so it is likely the winner of each respective league will qualify for the new competition.
Infantino still hasn’t been able to roll out his Nations League reform worldwide but European body UEFA and their North American counterparts CONCACAF have already set up leagues in their regions.
The Nations League will see all international teams separated into leagues, in a format similar to domestic football. Teams are allocated a league based on their FIFA World Ranking, with a cycle of promotions and relegations at the end of each season.
Leagues are broken into four mini-leagues, with the winner of each competing in a playoff to determine the overall league champion.
Whilst specific details are still unknown, it is believed that any governing body that doesn’t adopt the Nations League approach, would be ineligible for qualification to the new competition.
Plans are still very much a formative phase, the letter in question is actually no more than a proposal to FIFA’s decision-making Council. Infantino has had good success with his reforms so far though and looks likely to press ahead with this new idea.0 -
Going to be a rubbish tournament if teams are only allowed to be involved if their Governing Body has adopted the approach
Guess it'll be a one off match between the winners of the UEFA and CONCACAF Nation Leagues at the moment0 -
Real Madrid is a different story to Hungary and Saudi Arabia though. Even if it is just a pre season friendly.NapaAddick said:
In the USA, that would sell out in 45 minutes.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Are we really going to need an 80k seat stadium for a group match between Hungary and Saudi Arabia?
Remember that in a little town called Ann Arbor, Michigan, they sell out 110,000 seats for a crappy pre-season friendly with Real Madrid every year. And Michigan is not even big enough to get a venue for a World Cup.1 -
A World Cup in the winter will be brilliant.0
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As long as Swansea can enter their under 21 teamse9addick said:A World Cup in the winter will be brilliant.
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Was it bid on that premise that it is held in the Northern hemisphere summer? The only reason it is traditionally held then was because it was born out of the summer Olympics. There are a lot of reasons to bash why Qatar got the rights to host it bit the climate of the country isn't one of them. Football is a global sport and as such we shouldn't penalise any country because their climate in the months of June and July isn't ideal playing conditions.golfaddick said:WC has always been a summer tournament & was bid on such a premise. Now FIFA want to change 80 years of history because the country hosting it doesn't have the climate.
I'm just waiting for Greenland to bid for the 2030 one.1 -
It's unfair that the UK can't have the winter Olympics because of it's climate, but there you go, sometimes you just have to accept that you are not suited for something, no matter how much you want it. Whether (no pun intended) you are right about it not being bid for on the premise that it is held in June/July (you are the first person I have heard say that), screwing up the league season of all the major nations, bar Brazil, is wrong.colthe3rd said:
Was it bid on that premise that it is held in the Northern hemisphere summer? The only reason it is traditionally held then was because it was born out of the summer Olympics. There are a lot of reasons to bash why Qatar got the rights to host it bit the climate of the country isn't one of them. Football is a global sport and as such we shouldn't penalise any country because their climate in the months of June and July isn't ideal playing conditions.golfaddick said:WC has always been a summer tournament & was bid on such a premise. Now FIFA want to change 80 years of history because the country hosting it doesn't have the climate.
I'm just waiting for Greenland to bid for the 2030 one.
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Nothing dodgy to see here... move on!
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Yes, it was. They were quite adamant about it at the time and Qatar’s bid included the fantasy that they were building stadiums with air-conditioning which would make it comfortable for players & fans.colthe3rd said:
Was it bid on that premise that it is held in the Northern hemisphere summer? The only reason it is traditionally held then was because it was born out of the summer Olympics. There are a lot of reasons to bash why Qatar got the rights to host it bit the climate of the country isn't one of them. Football is a global sport and as such we shouldn't penalise any country because their climate in the months of June and July isn't ideal playing conditions.golfaddick said:WC has always been a summer tournament & was bid on such a premise. Now FIFA want to change 80 years of history because the country hosting it doesn't have the climate.
I'm just waiting for Greenland to bid for the 2030 one.
That idea (that this would be enough) was conveniently dropped as soon as they won the bid and there was then no alternative to move it to a cooler month (still needing air-con).
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Should the top clubs want to form a euro league, 2022 would be ideal.1
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Something I hadn't considered is what happens to the Football League when the World Cup is going on
It seems likely that the Championship will take a short break during part of the WC, whereas L1 and L2 will continue as normally. I'm not sure what gates would be like if there was a clash with a tasty WC match though.
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Do you think anyone at FA or EFL will carekillerandflash said:Something I hadn't considered is what happens to the Football League when the World Cup is going on
It seems likely that the Championship will take a short break during part of the WC, whereas L1 and L2 will continue as normally. I'm not sure what gates would be like if there was a clash with a tasty WC match though.
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As an addick I wouldn’t worry too much about that.killerandflash said:Something I hadn't considered is what happens to the Football League when the World Cup is going on
It seems likely that the Championship will take a short break during part of the WC, whereas L1 and L2 will continue as normally. I'm not sure what gates would be like if there was a clash with a tasty WC match though.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45018023
We’d be too excited looking forward to our up and coming local derby against Greenwich Borough in a crucial six pointer game in a relegation battle in the conference south.2 -
The timing of the Qata World Cup is going to bugger up my choir practice ;o)0
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CorrectedSolidgone said:The timing of the catarrh World Cup is going to bugger up my choir practice ;o)
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Have to give Qatar credit for Winning the Asian Cup
A competition with Japan, South Korea, Australlia, Iran and Saudi Arabia they have performed well to win it for the 1st time
Either that or they handed out massive Brown Envelopes to win1 -
3-1 up with five mins to go... not quite there yet0
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Is their squad made up of lots of foreign born players that have been naturalised so that they can play for the national team? It might be someone else that I’m thinking of that had done this.0
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Ireland?se9addick said:Is their squad made up of lots of foreign born players that have been naturalised so that they can play for the national team? It might be someone else that I’m thinking of that had done this.
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Don't they do that in Athletics as well?se9addick said:Is their squad made up of lots of foreign born players that have been naturalised so that they can play for the national team? It might be someone else that I’m thinking of that had done this.
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I've often wondered if they'll do this ahead of their World Cup in four years yet to be fair to them looking at their squad for the Asian Cup the majority were born in Qatarse9addick said:Is their squad made up of lots of foreign born players that have been naturalised so that they can play for the national team? It might be someone else that I’m thinking of that had done this.
Portugal | France | Algeria | Iraq are where the four were born outside of the country
Nothing to say those four arent still Qatari though what with the amount of people that have migrated from the Middle East region over the years1 -
They have 3-4 foreigners who've gained Qatari nationality but most of them are actually Qatari. Their star player (Almoez) who ended the tournament with 9 goals and must be the most exciting young player in Asian football right now, was born in Sudan but moved to Qatar as a kid.se9addick said:Is their squad made up of lots of foreign born players that have been naturalised so that they can play for the national team? It might be someone else that I’m thinking of that had done this.
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I guess he's one of the players that the UAE are unhappy with after Qatar beat them 4-0; the former apparently lodged a complaint over his eligibilityChris_from_Sidcup said:
They have 3-4 foreigners who've gained Qatari nationality but most of them are actually Qatari. Their star player (Almoez) who ended the tournament with 9 goals and must be the most exciting young player in Asian football right now, was born in Sudan but moved to Qatar as a kid.se9addick said:Is their squad made up of lots of foreign born players that have been naturalised so that they can play for the national team? It might be someone else that I’m thinking of that had done this.
Although if the Confederations Cup is going ahead will it be Japan who get the Asian spot as Qatar have taken two places now what with being World Cup hosts and Asian Cup winners0 -
Wales!Henry Irving said:
Ireland?se9addick said:Is their squad made up of lots of foreign born players that have been naturalised so that they can play for the national team? It might be someone else that I’m thinking of that had done this.
They’ve pinched loads of English players over the last few years1
