FIFA say the Qatar vote was fine, honest
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There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.6
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So why did the USA get two other countries involved?NapaAddick said:There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.
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Not really. The big european countries can host it, as could China, Japan and maybe even Australia.NapaAddick said:There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.
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Well, yeah, if FIFA is cool with having some of the stadiums being 70 years old and holding 35,000. Australia has only 6 stadiums in the whole country that hold over 34,000. Japan has only 5 stadiums over 50,000. Sorry, that just won't cut it with 48 teams.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not really. The big european countries can host it, as could China, Japan and maybe even Australia.NapaAddick said:There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.
The USA has 8 stadiums over 100,000. Twenty over 82,000. Old Trafford would not even rank in our top 50.6 -
Only because by adding Mexico and Canada, we suckered FIFA into not saying "no" to two countries they like. If it had been just the USA, we would have lost just due to Trump, alone.Algarveaddick said:
So why did the USA get two other countries involved?NapaAddick said:There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.
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Only 2 of the stadiums in Russia are over 50k, and 2 of them are less than 35k.NapaAddick said:
Well, yeah, if FIFA is cool with having some of the stadiums being 70 years old and holding 35,000. Australia has only 6 stadiums in the whole country that hold over 34,000. Japan has only 5 stadiums over 50,000. Sorry, that just won't cut it with 48 teams.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not really. The big european countries can host it, as could China, Japan and maybe even Australia.NapaAddick said:There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.
The USA has 8 stadiums over 100,000. Twenty over 82,000. Old Trafford would not even rank in our top 50.
Plenty of countries can host a world cup with 48 teams. In fact with more and more 'lesser' ranked countries involved, we're unlikely to need huge stadiums. Are we really going to need an 80k seat stadium for a group match between Hungary and Saudi Arabia?7 -
but why do all that when you can have the status quo by not moving it to the winter ??MuttleyCAFC said:i think there are usually four international breaks during a season - correct me if I am wrong. The problem is, you are going to need a couple to prep for the world cup, but that gives you two weeks. Then you start the season two weeks early and end it two weeks late. There will be no summer tournament so the players will get a break - the following season could start a week later!
Anyway - it wont be perfect, but I'm sure something can be worked out.
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I must be the only one who thinks watching the World Cup in the winter for one tournament might be fun. Couldn’t give a toss about the PL. Now whether Qatar should be hosting it is another question.5
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Not really. Trump's veiled threats about the political consequences were not treated that seriously by FIFA - the narcissist in chief tweeted: "The U.S. has put together a STRONG bid w/ Canada & Mexico for the 2026 World Cup. It would be a shame if countries that we always support were to lobby against the U.S. bid. Why should we be supporting these countries when they don’t support us (including at the United Nations)?"NapaAddick said:
Only because by adding Mexico and Canada, we suckered FIFA into not saying "no" to two countries they like. If it had been just the USA, we would have lost just due to Trump, alone.Algarveaddick said:
So why did the USA get two other countries involved?NapaAddick said:There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.
Damage already done by then.
Also FIFA didn't allow the CAF president to make a presentation to his own federation supporting a bid from his own federation, but the leader of the US/Can/Mex bid was allowed to address the council of Southern Africa Football Associations to support their bid.
Bottom line is the North American bid promised more profit for FIFA.2 -
What if we’re there by then?Nug said:I must be the only one who thinks watching the World Cup in the winter for one tournament might be fun. Couldn’t give a toss about the PL. Now whether Qatar should be hosting it is another question.
Will mean moving transfer windows as well.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
6 weeks can easily be made up though.Manicmania said:
We (well the PL) will have a winter break by the next WC, the issue being it is not the same as other countries as instead of literally all teams getting the same two weeks, the PL is spreading it out so there is still games on each week I believe, which obviously won't work for the WC year.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Seen it said that the premier league season will apparently need to start 3 weeks earlier and will end 3 weeks later. Which obviously also impacts on the season before it and the season after.Manicmania said:How many international breaks for friendlies or qualifiers are there usually in a season? 3 or so? They should be the first to go and would claw back 3 weeks worth of league fixtures. Then probably need to find an extra 4 or so weeks from there by extending the season i'd say.
Will be interesting to see what championship/league 1 do though, particularly if there is a lot of snow in Jan/Feb which could cause further chaos!
We're the worst affected major league as we don't (yet) have a winter break. The other leagues will just double up their winter break as the 'recovery' time for teams after the tournament ends and just pick up again from mid-January.
My other concern is i don't think fifa are going to be prepared to help the leagues out by not having international breaks either, I certainly wouldn't put it past them anyway...
Either way the various leagues will have to find at least 6 weeks I'd say. It's a real mess and won't be an easy fix. Could easily see one or both of the cups being cancelled for that year which would be very risky and unpopular. Hope I'm wrong and/or being pessimistic.
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That's the least of the concerns frankly.Scoham said:
What if we’re there by then?Nug said:I must be the only one who thinks watching the World Cup in the winter for one tournament might be fun. Couldn’t give a toss about the PL. Now whether Qatar should be hosting it is another question.
Will mean moving transfer windows as well.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
6 weeks can easily be made up though.Manicmania said:
We (well the PL) will have a winter break by the next WC, the issue being it is not the same as other countries as instead of literally all teams getting the same two weeks, the PL is spreading it out so there is still games on each week I believe, which obviously won't work for the WC year.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Seen it said that the premier league season will apparently need to start 3 weeks earlier and will end 3 weeks later. Which obviously also impacts on the season before it and the season after.Manicmania said:How many international breaks for friendlies or qualifiers are there usually in a season? 3 or so? They should be the first to go and would claw back 3 weeks worth of league fixtures. Then probably need to find an extra 4 or so weeks from there by extending the season i'd say.
Will be interesting to see what championship/league 1 do though, particularly if there is a lot of snow in Jan/Feb which could cause further chaos!
We're the worst affected major league as we don't (yet) have a winter break. The other leagues will just double up their winter break as the 'recovery' time for teams after the tournament ends and just pick up again from mid-January.
My other concern is i don't think fifa are going to be prepared to help the leagues out by not having international breaks either, I certainly wouldn't put it past them anyway...
Either way the various leagues will have to find at least 6 weeks I'd say. It's a real mess and won't be an easy fix. Could easily see one or both of the cups being cancelled for that year which would be very risky and unpopular. Hope I'm wrong and/or being pessimistic.
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Algarveaddick said:
Not really. Trumps veiled threats about the political consequences to were not treated that seriously by FIFA - the narcissist in chief tweeted: "The U.S. has put together a STRONG bid w/ Canada & Mexico for the 2026 World Cup. It would be a shame if countries that we always support were to lobby against the U.S. bid. Why should we be supporting these countries when they don’t support us (including at the United Nations)?"NapaAddick said:
Only because by adding Mexico and Canada, we suckered FIFA into not saying "no" to two countries they like. If it had been just the USA, we would have lost just due to Trump, alone.Algarveaddick said:
So why did the USA get two other countries involved?NapaAddick said:There is only one country that can really host a 48-team Cup (excluding dictatorships wasting citizens money building one-time use stadiums)... the USA. So I think the future is regions of countries coming together hosting it from now on.
Damage already done by then.
Also FIFA didn't allow the CAF president to make a presentation to his own federation supporting a bid from his own federation, but the leader of the US/Can/Mex bid was allowed to address the council of Southern Africa Football Associations to support their bid.
Bottom line is the North American bid handed more cash to officers of FIFA.
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Hopefully that will be of no interest to us!Ross said:Will all leagues be stopped during the World Cup? Or will League One and below continue to play if they haven’t got any international players?
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Be interesting to see how many fans would go to Qatar. Is it an interesting place? Can't imagine a lot of bars, assume drinking is allowed there but probably quite expensive.0
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They all drink. Effes is very popular0
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There's an amazing market and alcohol is available, although heavily restricted.iaitch said:Be interesting to see how many fans would go to Qatar. Is it an interesting place? Can't imagine a lot of bars, assume drinking is allowed there but probably quite expensive.
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Some drink. Heineken & Red Horse (8%) is very popular.smudge7946 said:They all drink. Effes is very popular
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Met up with a few Charlton boys back in 2009/10 when England played Brazil out here. They had a whale of a time at the Ritz Hotel pool bar if i remember rightly.0
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Qatar will be playing in next year's Copa America....1
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They will be heavily embarrassed.Callumcafc said:Qatar will be playing in next year's Copa America....
This is a side who in the past year have been beaten by Syria, China, Liechtenstein, Curacao and Iraq.1 -
How did they get invited to that then?
Was a lot of money involved or is it for purely football reasons so they can improve before their own world cup?0 -
It will be a scouting mission to see if they can naturalise some South American talent.iaitch said:How did they get invited to that then?
Was a lot of money involved or is it for purely football reasons so they can improve before their own world cup?2 -
There are usually a couple of other sides who get invited. Japan are also playing in it next year.iaitch said:How did they get invited to that then?
Was a lot of money involved or is it for purely football reasons so they can improve before their own world cup?
Mexico often play in it, so do Jamaica. But yeah i'd imagine they've paid CONMEBOL some decent money so they can take part and test themselves.0 -
Think I saw Mexico have played everytime since 1993 when invited teams were allowed apart from 2019Chris_from_Sidcup said:
There are usually a couple of other sides who get invited. Japan are also playing in it next year.iaitch said:How did they get invited to that then?
Was a lot of money involved or is it for purely football reasons so they can improve before their own world cup?
Mexico often play in it, so do Jamaica. But yeah i'd imagine they've paid CONMEBOL some decent money so they can take part and test themselves.0 -
So just like the Qatari athletics team that's full of Somalis, Ethiopians etc.charltonkeston said:
It will be a scouting mission to see if they can naturalise some South American talent.iaitch said:How did they get invited to that then?
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Mexico can't play in it next year as it runs the same time as the CONCACAF Gold Cuppaulie8290 said:
Think I saw Mexico have played everytime since 1993 when invited teams were allowed apart from 2019Chris_from_Sidcup said:
There are usually a couple of other sides who get invited. Japan are also playing in it next year.iaitch said:How did they get invited to that then?
Was a lot of money involved or is it for purely football reasons so they can improve before their own world cup?
Mexico often play in it, so do Jamaica. But yeah i'd imagine they've paid CONMEBOL some decent money so they can take part and test themselves.0 -
Not really. Many indigenous athletes competing for Qatar, although they are not helped by the non-recognition of the mother's nationality.iaitch said:
So just like the Qatari athletics team that's full of Somalis, Ethiopians etc.charltonkeston said:
It will be a scouting mission to see if they can naturalise some South American talent.iaitch said:How did they get invited to that then?
Was a lot of money involved or is it for purely football reasons so they can improve before their own world cup?0 -
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifa-strips-qatar-of-confederations-cup-1.2973534
"The Confederations Cup, considered an important dress rehearsal, will not be held in Qatar in the lead-up to the 2022 World Cup, FIFA announced"
They can't play Confed Cup in Qatar in the summer and they can't move another European season to accommodate it so it will be hosted by a completely different Asian country.2 -
In the USA, that would sell out in 45 minutes.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Are we really going to need an 80k seat stadium for a group match between Hungary and Saudi Arabia?
Remember that in a little town called Ann Arbor, Michigan, they sell out 110,000 seats for a crappy pre-season friendly with Real Madrid every year. And Michigan is not even big enough to get a venue for a World Cup.0
