Where the England squad come from
6 from Yorkshire alone, 6 from the North West and 2 from the North East. Add to this Cahill who grew up in Dronfield, which is between Chesterfield and Sheffield, that makes 15 out of the 23 from the North!
Indeed only 3 members from the squad come from London (this includes Sterling), 2 from the home counties (Young and Deli) while none come from the Midlands! With the wealth of the London clubs, and the large potential pool of talent, that's a surprisingly low number and perhaps an indictment at the way they bring players through.
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Did anyone else think this was @paulie8290 who started the thread?30
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No because when there are 0 comments(like before you posted) it says who started the threadjohnnybev1987 said:Did anyone else think this was @paulie8290 who started the thread?
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This includes the Jamaican lad, Sterling?killerandflash said:Doing some quick sums on where the current England squad actually grew up, I was surprised at how Northern it is.
6 from Yorkshire alone, 6 from the North West and 2 from the North East. Add to this Cahill who grew up in Dronfield, which is between Chesterfield and Sheffield, that makes 15 out of the 23 from the North!
Indeed only 3 members from the squad come from London (this includes Sterling), 2 from the home counties (Young and Deli) while none come from the Midlands! With the wealth of the London clubs, and the large potential pool of talent, that's a surprisingly low number and perhaps an indictment at the way they bring players through.1 -
Please dont flag mepaulie8290 said:
No because when there are 0 comments(like before you posted) it says who started the threadjohnnybev1987 said:Did anyone else think this was @paulie8290 who started the thread?
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I said "grew up". He came over at the age of 5 and lived in London, and came through the QPR academy. His football upbringing was in Londoncafcdave123 said:
This includes the Jamaican lad, Sterling?killerandflash said:Doing some quick sums on where the current England squad actually grew up, I was surprised at how Northern it is.
6 from Yorkshire alone, 6 from the North West and 2 from the North East. Add to this Cahill who grew up in Dronfield, which is between Chesterfield and Sheffield, that makes 15 out of the 23 from the North!
Indeed only 3 members from the squad come from London (this includes Sterling), 2 from the home counties (Young and Deli) while none come from the Midlands! With the wealth of the London clubs, and the large potential pool of talent, that's a surprisingly low number and perhaps an indictment at the way they bring players through.0 -
It is quite interesting actually. Other than Young (a converted winger) all our defenders are Northern, plus 2 of our defensive midfielders. By contrast in previous years we had the likes of Ferdinand, Campbell, Adams, Southgate, Terry, Ledley King etc all from London and the South.Red_in_SE8 said:
Maybe Gomez will break the trend.0 -
Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.
Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.0 -
Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?smudge7946 said:Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.
Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.0 -
Lampard and Le Saux?Riviera said:
Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?smudge7946 said:Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.
Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.1 - Sponsored links:
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Joey Barton?0
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Gianfranco Zola was from upper-class gentry I think. Maybe Vialli too0
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I think Rooney read Classics at OxbridgeRiviera said:
Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?smudge7946 said:Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.
Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.21 -
I'm not sure London and the South East can be considered to be entirely middle class!smudge7946 said:Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.
Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.0 -
Southgate?Riviera said:
Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?smudge7946 said:Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.
Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.
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Er...Gareth Southgate couldn't be more middle class.Riviera said:
Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?smudge7946 said:Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.
Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.0 -
Frank Lampard and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain both attended private schools.
Scott Parker from the very middle-class London state school Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College.
Quantity surveyor’s son James Milner.
To name but five.
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Ah, but one must distinguish between old money and new money, darling1
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5?A-R-T-H-U-R said:Frank Lampard and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain both attended private schools.
Scott Parker from the very middle-class London state school Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College.
Quantity surveyor’s son James Milner.
To name but five.6 -
Yup, Oxlaide AND Chamberlain!SheffieldRed said:
5?A-R-T-H-U-R said:Frank Lampard and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain both attended private schools.
Scott Parker from the very middle-class London state school Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College.
Quantity surveyor’s son James Milner.
To name but five.7 - Sponsored links:
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James Milner and Boring James MilnerSheffieldRed said:
5?A-R-T-H-U-R said:Frank Lampard and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain both attended private schools.
Scott Parker from the very middle-class London state school Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College.
Quantity surveyor’s son James Milner.
To name but five.1 -
and that was the only way you could tell that you didn't start it?paulie8290 said:
No because when there are 0 comments(like before you posted) it says who started the threadjohnnybev1987 said:Did anyone else think this was @paulie8290 who started the thread?
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isnt this a possible indication of the qualities required to become a very good international team as opposed to England who mostly seem a load of thickos - for example, if you interview the German squad, they all speak perfect English and 'appear' to be highly/somewhat educated ?
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This the Germany who are already out of the tournament?The_President said:isnt this a possible indication of the qualities required to become a very good international team as opposed to England who mostly seem a load of thickos - for example, if you interview the German squad, they all speak perfect English and 'appear' to be highly/somewhat educated ?
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Peter Crouchs dad was a draughtsman.0
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Peter Crouchs dad was a
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Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.
I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.1 -
How posh are you?Cordoban Addick said:Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.
I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.
Shooters will be getting house envy! ;-)0 -
That's interesting. Would probably take a look at that.Cordoban Addick said:Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.
I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.0 -
Sterling grew up? When did that happen?killerandflash said:
I said "grew up". He came over at the age of 5 and lived in London ...cafcdave123 said:
This includes the Jamaican lad, Sterling?
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