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Where the England squad come from

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  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448

    Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.

    I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.

    How posh are you?
    Shooters will be getting house envy! ;-)
    So fucking posh you wouldn't believe it, I have been repainting the bookshelves with some Farrow and Ball* paint.




    *Left behind by previous owners and found at the back of the shed.
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448

    Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.

    I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.

    That's interesting. Would probably take a look at that.
    Will try and find it but struggling to move head at the moment.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131

    Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.

    I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.

    That's interesting. Would probably take a look at that.
    The premise was that most other sports like cricket, rugby, rowing and cycling where England and the UK have enjoyed degrees of success have more representation from the public school system than football.

    The book was basically a freakonomics for sport.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Delle Ali's back story is an absolute show stopper!
    Mum an alcoholic from Milton Keynes
    Dad an Nigerian multi millionaire!
    He's adopted by another couple and estranged from his parents!
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689
    Funnily enough read this interview with Neville Southall today, obviously praising Pickford to the hilt
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/09/jordan-pickford-one-question-how-good-neville-southall
    one of the points he makes is that the current squad is a return to working class values, a lot of the players have played in non league or lower leagues and understand that talent alone is not enough.
    I get the impression it's not been like that for some time, though I'm fairly certain that it was like that in 66.
    Even better though, is this is a young team, they can get better.
    Looking forward to the claims from various parts of the north along the lines of the West ham boast.
  • RedArmySE7
    RedArmySE7 Posts: 5,407

    Frank Lampard and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain both attended private schools.

    Scott Parker from the very middle-class London state school Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College.

    Quantity surveyor’s son James Milner.

    To name but five.

    Scott Parker grew up in Grove Park, that boy isn't middle class!
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Delle Ali's back story is an absolute show stopper!
    Mum an alcoholic from Milton Keynes
    Dad an Nigerian multi millionaire!
    He's adopted by another couple and estranged from his parents!

    I bet he ignores the emails from him like we all do.