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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    Addickted said:

    When was the last time you stayed up to watch dawn break?

    Been a long time, too long
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    980

    Home straight
  • Manicmania
    Manicmania Posts: 1,594
    edited June 2018
    JohnnyH2 said:

    Manicmania said:

    I chose this site because it was above the forum bashing of the others. Would be nice if we could keep it that way.

    What has always made this site a class above was the total ban on discussing about what was happening on other CAFC forums. No good can ever come of it.

    Sadly we now have it happening and it is causing the aggro.

    If you have an issue with another site, go to that site and argue with them there
    err ?????? Are you sure you meant to quote me there? I have no issue with any other forum and my post was saying almost exactly what you just posted.

    Confused????
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    Manicmania said:


    JohnnyH2 said:

    Manicmania said:

    I chose this site because it was above the forum bashing of the others. Would be nice if we could keep it that way.

    What has always made this site a class above was the total ban on discussing about what was happening on other CAFC forums. No good can ever come of it.

    Sadly we now have it happening and it is causing the aggro.

    If you have an issue with another site, go to that site and argue with them there
    JohnnyH2 said:

    Manicmania said:

    I chose this site because it was above the forum bashing of the others. Would be nice if we could keep it that way.

    What has always made this site a class above was the total ban on discussing about what was happening on other CAFC forums. No good can ever come of it.

    Sadly we now have it happening and it is causing the aggro.

    If you have an issue with another site, go to that site and argue with them there
    err ?????? Are you sure you meant to quote me there? I have no issue with any other forum and my post was saying almost exactly what you just posted.

    Confused????
    Sorry I was agreeing with totally and should have made that clear. You are not the issue
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    Chizz said:

    It's quite simple. Either you know what binary means or you don't.

    Best post of the day LOL
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Henry Irving said:

    Addickted said:

    When was the last time you stayed up to watch dawn break?

    Been a long time, too long
    Just cracked open a bottle of Russian Standard.

    Not sure it's quite what the Doctor ordered, but with guitar heroes playing on 'Yesterday' in the other room, it could be a good night!
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Got any pictures of a sharpshooter in France just before dawn?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    edited June 2018
    Only 20 pages to go and then the internet spontaneously combusts.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,088
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    I never knew Jimmy Seeds grandson posts on here, what his handle then?

    #i'mprecious

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  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    edited June 2018
    @nth london addick
    Binary:
    In this context, binary means something which exists only in one of two states – eg, on/off, yes/no, black/white, male/female.
    It was a long way back, but I think AB said the situation is NOT binary – ie. we can have yes/no/maybe, black/white/50 shades of grey, and male/female/lady-boys.

    Now can everyone PLEASE all calm down, have a good night’s sleep, and come back with sensible debate instead all this schoolboy points-scoring tomorrow? It is getting beyond tiresome!
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,726
    It seems like one or two on here are more interested in being right/proving someone else wrong than they are in our football club being taken over. Weird.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,199
    My god. Just when you think this thread can't get any worse. Did I really just waste half an hour getting up to date with this shit? Totally depressing. JS doesn't do himself any favours, but some of those piling in on him have really shown themselves up as complete tossers today.
    I'm moving towards the Off It camp.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,015
    nth london addick said:

    JamesSeed said:

    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    JamesSeed said:

    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    If anyone wants to know anything can they put it in a message to me please.

    To the trolls like Dick and Stu, this was because someone asked if Muir was still in Britain twice and I didn't see it, and then two people asked how I knew my contact, and again, I didn't see it. So I'd prefer it if people could message me, if that's ok with you. You can pop back to Nick on the other forum and tell him you had a pop at me though. I'm sure he'll be proud of you. Pathetic.
    Get over yourself ffs. Seriously, just because other people see things differently or disagree with you does not make them a troll.

    You've been a Charlton fan 5 minutes and you're on here telling long term Charlton fans and posters every 5 minutes how to behave and think about our club.

    Seriously wind your ego in.
    Yes and you’re just another troll. It’s always the same people. I don’t give a flying f what you think of me.
    It’s always the same shit propogsted by your leader Nick Gray. Just F off back to your sad little forum. And your middle name isn’t Charlton, unlike mine.


    Get a grip. No idea what forum are you talking about and you are coming across as paranoid. Regardless of whether or not my middle name is Charlton I'm a Charlton fan and always have been.

    Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame you utter oddball and pull yourself together ffs.


    Back to ignore mode.
    nth london addick said:

    Beardface said:

    NapaAddick said:

    We've been wondering why Muir would be having any trouble putting the money together for this. What if HE is the one the EFL disallowed and the rest of the consortium are trying to put the money together to salvage the takeover?

    Muir and others have plenty of money, they're not struggling to fund the takeover themselves - they don't want to. The investors have pooled their funds to spread the risk. Buying a 3rd division football club and taking it to the Premiership is a high risk strategy that has a good chance of failing. By getting a consortium in place the potential losses and gains are diluted - reducing the risk. I think Swansea did something similar very successfully and only declined when the consortium sold (though I might be wrong on that bit). They were certainly considered a very well run club for a number of years.

    If what we are hearing about two investors being declined by the EFL is true, then I expect a number of conversations in the background are happening re whether the other investors will stump up more cash (and therefore increase their risk exposure), whether they can find new investors to replace the funding, or whether RD will lower the price and therefore reduce the risk to the same levels previously accepted. To do this RD may decide to invest further in Charlton and clear the first charge debts on the assets (£7mil) in order to lease the valley and training ground as a long term revenue stream to compensate for a lower sale price than he finds acceptable. This seems a logical step for both parties if they can't find the right funding and risk exposure, even if it is a truly unpalatable thought for us fans.
    By Jove you have hit the nail right on the Swede

    You have posted it in a much better way than I have tried to

    Doff my cap to you
    An investor connected to a British club had to pull out because of those connections. A new investor is nearly in place. They’ll be buying the club and the ground.
    So right now the aussies ain’t got the dough


    And like i told you on Thursday if they get it in place before the deadline then they can do the deal

    If they can’t then they are negotiating on the ground and training ground

    All day you’ve been telling me I have been fed lies yet all a long you had been told they still haven’t secured the final investor and that NLA was correct
    You can't argue with that, because it's true.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    Uboat said:

    My god. Just when you think this thread can't get any worse. Did I really just waste half an hour getting up to date with this shit? Totally depressing. JS doesn't do himself any favours, but some of those piling in on him have really shown themselves up as complete tossers today. I'm moving towards the Off It camp.

    THIS deserves a promote as best post of the entire day.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Callumcafc said:

    Only 20 pages to go and then the internet spontaneously combusts.

    With a bit of luck.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,015
    edited June 2018
    harveys_gardener said:

    NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.

    Yes Muir may have the cash to buy Charlton, but he's not going to spend it,( unless he changes his mind) or the sale would already be completed.
    No different to RD being minted and not wanting to splash the cash in a sensible manner.
    The Queen could buy Charlton possibly a hundred times over but she's not going to.
    It doesn't matter how much money Muir has to buy Charlton if he's not going to use it to buy Charlton !
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    JamesSeed said:

    Addickted said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Addickted said:

    SoundAsa£ said:

    Cool it.......the pair of you.

    He called you a troll for daring to ask about Muir...… twice!
    Why would you even do that?? Wrong.
    Because you mention 'someone wanting to know if Muir was in the UK' and then happened to mention that posters name.

    If you want to identify someone, then use the #name otherwise old gits like me get confused.
    Mate, we're all old gits, it's just that I'm not a very nice one ;-)

    I'd much rather we all met in the pub to discuss this stuff (sorry Henners and afka) and I'm sure we wouldn't get involved in these shenanigans.

    But all this 'The Aussie model' stuff.... oops.
    What time does Makro car park open in the morning :wink:

  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    Don't stay up too late chaps, England needs you tomorrow!
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Airman Brown said:

    nth london addick said:

    LargeAddick said:

    nth london addick said:

    And the deadline is next week for many things including your kids mates dads mob to find the cash or the only other alternatives are to walk away or like they asked RD if they can lease the groundxand training ground

    Now nothing you post again will hold water because you hold back all your info and only let out what you think will buy you and the Aussies credibility

    Shame on you sir

    what date and time is this deadline? Next week doesn’t suffice.

    Next week large there is a deadline for decisions to be made on both the debt and the takeover I put it out there about 20 pages agp

    J block mentioned Elliot said watch this week

    I said Thursday I expect us to know one way or other by next week
    You are presumably aware that various ex-directors will not take a hit - as is Roland - so I’m not sure what you mean by a deadline on the debt. That isn’t going to change.
    Those directors can’t sit on the offer for ever so it’s a deadline to answer

    You know as well as I do if they don’t sell then the ground and training ground can’t be leased back

    So either RD drops the price or the Aussies find the needed investment or the directors sell

    This all has to conclude soon hence the deadline

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  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,231
    Point of order ladies and gentlemen. It’s all very depressing. Can we stop the sniping? We are better than this. Definitely looking at a few people on here differently.

    But if we have to take sides...

    Aussie Aussie Aussie!!!
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    nth london addick said:

    LargeAddick said:

    nth london addick said:

    And the deadline is next week for many things including your kids mates dads mob to find the cash or the only other alternatives are to walk away or like they asked RD if they can lease the groundxand training ground

    Now nothing you post again will hold water because you hold back all your info and only let out what you think will buy you and the Aussies credibility

    Shame on you sir

    what date and time is this deadline? Next week doesn’t suffice.

    Next week large there is a deadline for decisions to be made on both the debt and the takeover I put it out there about 20 pages agp

    J block mentioned Elliot said watch this week

    I said Thursday I expect us to know one way or other by next week

    Do you mind if I don’t put my house on it?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    Or a bike

    Rubbish - I got £50 for this.

    image
  • Manicmania
    Manicmania Posts: 1,594
    Bit of duct tape would fix that right up... @bobmunro
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    AddickUpNorth said:

    nth london addick said:

    LargeAddick said:

    nth london addick said:

    And the deadline is next week for many things including your kids mates dads mob to find the cash or the only other alternatives are to walk away or like they asked RD if they can lease the groundxand training ground

    Now nothing you post again will hold water because you hold back all your info and only let out what you think will buy you and the Aussies credibility

    Shame on you sir

    what date and time is this deadline? Next week doesn’t suffice.

    Next week large there is a deadline for decisions to be made on both the debt and the takeover I put it out there about 20 pages agp

    J block mentioned Elliot said watch this week

    I said Thursday I expect us to know one way or other by next week

    Do you mind if I don’t put my house on it?
    No mate because as a man who likes a bet I wouldn’t lay one bean on it coming off

    But this has to end soon or as a football playing team we will be fucked if it don’t
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,015
    LargeAddick said:

    dickplumb said:

    harveys_gardener said:

    NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.

    It is not rubbish.

    Why not? Muir has the money to buy us on his own but he is a successful businessman for a reason. They are just spreading the risk around. One of those sharing the risk was rejected by the EFL because of links to another Club. So now they are looking for a replacement investor. If NLA was to say that LargeAddick doesn’t have the money to conclude a deal he’d be right, just, but to say the Aussies don’t have the money is plainly wrong, they have it but are just not stupid enough to want to spend it.
    You're splitting straws for no good reason.
    Let's be precise.
    It would appear that as of right now, The Aussies do not have enough cash that they are prepared to invest to buy Charlton outright.

    (It doesn't matter if Muir has millions he is not prepared to spend on Charlton, so what ?
    RD also had millions he wasn't prepared to spend sensibly on Charlton).
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    nth london addick said:

    LargeAddick said:

    dickplumb said:

    harveys_gardener said:

    NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.

    It is not rubbish.

    Why not? Muir has the money to buy us on his own but he is a successful businessman for a reason. They are just spreading the risk around. One of those sharing the risk was rejected by the EFL because of links to another Club. So now they are looking for a replacement investor. If NLA was to say that LargeAddick doesn’t have the money to conclude a deal he’d be right, just, but to say the Aussies don’t have the money is plainly wrong, they have it but are just not stupid enough to want to spend it.
    But that’s where you are incorrect large in the context of buying cafc the Aussie consortium led by Muir right now does not have the funding in place to conclude the deal currently

    The official statement eluded to it

    Mr seeds grandson has said it this evening

    The facts remain that yes there is atleast seriously wealthy individual who could buy the club using less than 10% of his net wealth but he currently chooses not to

    If they were told to conclude today they couldn’t

    Due to lack of funds within the consortium to be released into this project


    In my world that means you ain’t got the money

    I find it hilarious that all day it’s been said I have been fed lies and shite to belittle and muddy the Aussies when all along that person also knew that right now the Aussie bidders still need one or two more people to conclude and seal the deal

    These are all facts

    A blip. The investment is spread out amongst them. When one had to pull out, another is replacing him. No big deal. You’ve said they haven’t the funds all the way along. Not true,
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    This thread contains some of the finest prose since Thomas Hardy.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    JamesSeed said:

    nth london addick said:

    LargeAddick said:

    dickplumb said:

    harveys_gardener said:

    NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.

    It is not rubbish.

    Why not? Muir has the money to buy us on his own but he is a successful businessman for a reason. They are just spreading the risk around. One of those sharing the risk was rejected by the EFL because of links to another Club. So now they are looking for a replacement investor. If NLA was to say that LargeAddick doesn’t have the money to conclude a deal he’d be right, just, but to say the Aussies don’t have the money is plainly wrong, they have it but are just not stupid enough to want to spend it.
    But that’s where you are incorrect large in the context of buying cafc the Aussie consortium led by Muir right now does not have the funding in place to conclude the deal currently

    The official statement eluded to it

    Mr seeds grandson has said it this evening

    The facts remain that yes there is atleast seriously wealthy individual who could buy the club using less than 10% of his net wealth but he currently chooses not to

    If they were told to conclude today they couldn’t

    Due to lack of funds within the consortium to be released into this project


    In my world that means you ain’t got the money

    I find it hilarious that all day it’s been said I have been fed lies and shite to belittle and muddy the Aussies when all along that person also knew that right now the Aussie bidders still need one or two more people to conclude and seal the deal

    These are all facts

    A blip. The investment is spread out amongst them. When one had to pull out, another is replacing him. No big deal. You’ve said they haven’t the funds all the way along. Not true,
    When the Greek left they had insufficient funds

    When the other two left they had insufficient funds

    So at the beginning in the middle and right now they don’t have the funding in place

    What part of that is incorrect

    None of it


    Earlier I was a liar now it’s a blip

  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    edited June 2018
    nth london addick said:

    Airman Brown said:

    nth london addick said:

    LargeAddick said:

    nth london addick said:

    And the deadline is next week for many things including your kids mates dads mob to find the cash or the only other alternatives are to walk away or like they asked RD if they can lease the groundxand training ground

    Now nothing you post again will hold water because you hold back all your info and only let out what you think will buy you and the Aussies credibility

    Shame on you sir

    what date and time is this deadline? Next week doesn’t suffice.

    Next week large there is a deadline for decisions to be made on both the debt and the takeover I put it out there about 20 pages agp

    J block mentioned Elliot said watch this week

    I said Thursday I expect us to know one way or other by next week
    You are presumably aware that various ex-directors will not take a hit - as is Roland - so I’m not sure what you mean by a deadline on the debt. That isn’t going to change.

    Those directors can’t sit on the offer for ever so it’s a deadline to answer

    You know as well as I do if they don’t sell then the ground and training ground can’t be leased back

    So either RD drops the price or the Aussies find the needed investment or the directors sell

    This all has to conclude soon hence the deadline
    My understanding is that RD already knows their answer. Hence my point.
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