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Konsa and Everton

AFKABartram
AFKABartram Posts: 57,820
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Apparently its been stated in the Liverpool Echo this week that they refused to pay the £5m we wanted in January

https://tbrfootball.com/5m-fee-stopped-ezri-konsa-heading-everton-toffees-pay-summer/
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  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    If everybody was fit i'd argue Konsa shouldn't get in our first 11. Would snap up 5m in the summer if it could get re invested - similar to the Jenkinson money, which given the new owners on the arise is much more likely.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,808
    £5m for a premier league club these days isn't even a risk...it's small change from the back of the sofa.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    If that’s true fair play to konza seems to have not thrown his toys out the pram and respected the clubs decision and got on with it
  • Howells
    Howells Posts: 253
    edited March 2018
    He has great potential to play in the premier league. So young and he has already perfected the dive and con the ref combo. I predict big things for this lad.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,361
    Decent player but not sure if he is Premier League level in the same way Lookman and Gomez have shown.

    Personally think Joe Aribo is a bigger prospect
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.
  • TalBHAndreBA
    TalBHAndreBA Posts: 380
    I think he will go on to bigger and better things. There can't be too many English 20 year olds who have played over 60 competitive first team matches, in a rough and tumble league such as League 1. I don't think he should leave now though. Lookman is a point in case. I understood why Lookman left, but he's on loan at Leipzig now, and lets be honest, he is barely playing. Lookman may go on and smash it up for Everton next season, but it looks unlikely. Konsa should stay for another season IMO, but I do understand why he would want to leave for a better pay day somewhere else, a footballers career is short, and being in that England squad where his fellow players are probably earning 4x what he earns, may influence him in moving away from Charlton.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Konsa will be a solid upper Championship, lower prem player.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,832
    edited March 2018
    The Red Robin said:

    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.

    Potentially the best CB at the club, I'm not sure he'd get ahead of Bauer and Pearce as a combination, at the moment

    Who plays at RB on Friday - him or Dijksteel - is interesting though.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    killerandflash said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.

    Potentially the best CB at the club, I'm not sure he'd get ahead of Bauer and Pearce as a combination, at the moment

    Who plays at RB on Friday - him or Dijksteel - is interesting though.
    Not even a doubt, Dijksteel easily
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited March 2018
    killerandflash said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.

    Potentially the best CB at the club, I'm not sure he'd get ahead of Bauer and Pearce as a combination, at the moment

    Who plays at RB on Friday - him or Dijksteel - is interesting though.
    I honestly think they're both overrated. Pearce and Bauer that is.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Dijksteel should play RB, but I agree with @The Red Robin
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Dazzler21 said:

    Konsa will be a solid upper Championship, lower prem player.

    What......................like Ricky Holmes :smile::smiley::smiley:
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,832
    The Red Robin said:

    killerandflash said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.

    Potentially the best CB at the club, I'm not sure he'd get ahead of Bauer and Pearce as a combination, at the moment

    Who plays at RB on Friday - him or Dijksteel - is interesting though.
    I honestly think they're both overrated.
    With them as a combination, 2 clean sheets and 1 goal conceded in the last 3 matches. And in the Blackpool defeat they were probably the best players in the team
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,433
    The Red Robin said:

    killerandflash said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.

    Potentially the best CB at the club, I'm not sure he'd get ahead of Bauer and Pearce as a combination, at the moment

    Who plays at RB on Friday - him or Dijksteel - is interesting though.
    I honestly think they're both overrated.
    Dijksteel is hardly overrated - He's only played 5 or 6 games and is obviously a raw talent. Time will tell how good he is.

    Based on what I've seen of Konsa I'm not convinced by him as a defender but to be fair he's playing in chaotic surroundings. Would he make a better midfielder?

    The only standout player recently was Joe Gomez - looked a lot more assured than you'd expect. Lookman wasn't in the same league.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    The Red Robin said:

    killerandflash said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.

    Potentially the best CB at the club, I'm not sure he'd get ahead of Bauer and Pearce as a combination, at the moment

    Who plays at RB on Friday - him or Dijksteel - is interesting though.
    I honestly think they're both overrated.
    Dijksteel is hardly overrated - He's only played 5 or 6 games and is obviously a raw talent. Time will tell how good he is.

    Based on what I've seen of Konsa I'm not convinced by him as a defender but to be fair he's playing in chaotic surroundings. Would he make a better midfielder?

    The only standout player recently was Joe Gomez - looked a lot more assured than you'd expect. Lookman wasn't in the same league.
    Pearce and Bauer I meant.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,433
    The Red Robin said:

    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    The Red Robin said:

    killerandflash said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Best CB at the club but not sure he's quite ready to go straight into a top flight side as Gomez and have did.

    Potentially the best CB at the club, I'm not sure he'd get ahead of Bauer and Pearce as a combination, at the moment

    Who plays at RB on Friday - him or Dijksteel - is interesting though.
    I honestly think they're both overrated.
    Dijksteel is hardly overrated - He's only played 5 or 6 games and is obviously a raw talent. Time will tell how good he is.

    Based on what I've seen of Konsa I'm not convinced by him as a defender but to be fair he's playing in chaotic surroundings. Would he make a better midfielder?

    The only standout player recently was Joe Gomez - looked a lot more assured than you'd expect. Lookman wasn't in the same league.
    Pearce and Bauer I meant.
    Okay!
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,859
    I think his best position is holding midfielder. As a centre back you'd feel pretty happy if he was playing in front of you with his pace and strength.

    In my opinion he's one of those players who looks better when the players around him are of higher quality.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    I agree that his best position is DM. Composed on the ball, always seems to have that bit of extra time.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    I'd play him in midfield instead of Reeves
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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    wmcf123 said:

    I'd play him in midfield instead of Reeves

    I would not play him where Reeves plays.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Oh, and he is worth more than £5m.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    10 mill at least for Konsa, if he keeps on improving.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Redrobo said:

    wmcf123 said:

    I'd play him in midfield instead of Reeves

    I would not play him where Reeves plays.
    No, it would have to be reworked
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    wmcf123 said:

    Redrobo said:

    wmcf123 said:

    I'd play him in midfield instead of Reeves

    I would not play him where Reeves plays.
    No, it would have to be reworked
    Foster-Caskey has an eye for goal. Aribo seems to have a bit of flair. Both could work.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,933
    Elthamaddick said:

    £5m for a premier league club these days isn't even a risk...it's small change from the back of the sofa.

    We can give them a bloody sofa to find the change down the back of as well.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,141
    Redrobo said:

    Oh, and he is worth more than £5m.

    Surely if he was, someone would have bought him in January when he was up for sale at £5m
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    AFKABartram said:

    Apparently its been stated in the Liverpool Echo this week that they refused to pay the £5m we wanted in January

    https://tbrfootball.com/5m-fee-stopped-ezri-konsa-heading-everton-toffees-pay-summer/

    Not surprising. Whilst 5m doesn't seem like a lot of money to a premier league club, and certainly not a lot to one that spent almost 70m on Sigurdsson and Bolasie, it's definitely a lot of money for a player who isn't even first choice at an average league one club.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    AFKABartram said:

    Apparently its been stated in the Liverpool Echo this week that they refused to pay the £5m we wanted in January

    https://tbrfootball.com/5m-fee-stopped-ezri-konsa-heading-everton-toffees-pay-summer/

    Not surprising. Whilst 5m doesn't seem like a lot of money to a premier league club, and certainly not a lot to one that spent almost 70m on Sigurdsson and Bolasie, it's definitely a lot of money for a player who isn't even first choice at an average league one club.
    Nick Pope wasn't first choice with us either. I wonder what he's worth now.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Redrobo said:

    wmcf123 said:

    Redrobo said:

    wmcf123 said:

    I'd play him in midfield instead of Reeves

    I would not play him where Reeves plays.
    No, it would have to be reworked
    Foster-Caskey has an eye for goal. Aribo seems to have a bit of flair. Both could work.
    Forster-Caskey

    As in son of Darren Caskey and stepson of Nicky Forster...

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