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  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    Just been announced that Altior is now a doubt for the Champion Chase on Wednesday. Will be a great shame if he misses it.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    rumours altior has a minor niggle.
  • No.1 in South London
    No.1 in South London Posts: 3,960
    Check Nicky Hendersons twitter, doesn't sound good in my opinion. The Champion Chase is a minefield, just have to wait until Wednesday before making a decision, but that is one race I will be avoiding.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Betway doing money back as free bet up to£10 on 1st and last race.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    philcafc said:

    Just been announced that Altior is now a doubt for the Champion Chase on Wednesday. Will be a great shame if he misses it.

    I'm not surprised as Sunbet are offering 5/1 to new a/cs, max £5 I think. Often a catch somewhere.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    altior - is it a genuine issue or that it will hate the heavy ground.
  • JT
    JT Posts: 12,348
    Henderson wanting a bigger price presumably
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    JT said:

    Henderson wanting a bigger price presumably

    I doubt that.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,766
    Always a bit uncomfortable that bookmakers have such strong connections with owners and trainers and that they are the ones releasing the news - the Chairman of Betbright owns Douvan and says that the horse is unlikely to go the Champion Chase route and then changes his mind. Then Nicky Henderson releases news of Altior via Unibet.

    Years ago a trainer or owner would get a ban for even talking to a bookmaker!
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Any Tuesday tips from those in the know?
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  • PolzeathNick
    PolzeathNick Posts: 332
    Some big priced selections tomorrow for me. Don't have much interest in short priced favs at the best of times but even more so when the ground goes like this!

    13.30 MENGLI KHAN
    14.10 -
    14.50 SHANTOU FLYER
    15.30 FAUGHEEN
    16.10 KAYF GRACE
    16.50 SIZING TENNESSEE
    17.30 LE ROCHER
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    1.30 kalashnikov
    2.10 footpad - no bet
    2.50 sizing codelco ew
    3.30 bvd - no bet
    4.10 kayf grace
    4.50 no comment
    5.30 de plotting shed & demi sang ew

    have got the main faves in various accas and multiples never do them as singles, with the exception of uds who i've had my big bet of the week on as with the ground i think it eats them.
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,866
    1.30 Getabird
    2.10 Footpad
    2.50 Vintage Clouds
    3.30 Buveur Dair
    4.10 Apples Jade
    4.50 Ms Parfois
    5.30 Barney Dwan
    Mostly favourites though.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    killer kish said:

    Certainly wants more than 2 mile but will definitely get a fast run race in the Fred Winter and nothing will be staying on better

    Do I get the impression that heavy or soft could suit?
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Callumcafc said:

    Coral doing money back on all losers in the Supreme Novices Hurdle. Worth a punt on an outsider?

    Is that online only? I hate betting on line.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    Riviera said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Coral doing money back on all losers in the Supreme Novices Hurdle. Worth a punt on an outsider?

    Is that online only? I hate betting on line.
    I believe it's online only but could be wrong.
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    Spot on there LenGlover,my fella will have no issues with ground.Nervous times,just want Wednesday to arrive
  • sralan
    sralan Posts: 2,031
    Sneaky feeling for Saint Calvados in the 2.10.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    First Flow in the opener. Will appreciate the rain and money back if it doesn’t win with SkyBet
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    For the uneducated plastic horse racing fan like me that only crops up for this week and the grand national, I’m thinking of doing lucky 15’s this year. Last 3 years I’ve done super Heinz and I’m thinking lucky 15 is a better option. Any thoughts on this
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,766
    ValleyGary said:

    First Flow in the opener. Will appreciate the rain and money back if it doesn’t win with SkyBet

    I'm with you VG. Kim Bailey was absolutely adamant after the horse's Newbury win that it wouldn't go anywhere near the Festivals because he wanted to save it for the future but, more to the point, it is so ground dependent. I'm hoping that the abandonment of Kelso last week (it's original target) will prove a nice quirk of fate. It's got a fair bit to find on the front two but the grond and Cheltenham hill will, hopefully, prove a leveller.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,766
    cabbles said:

    For the uneducated plastic horse racing fan like me that only crops up for this week and the grand national, I’m thinking of doing lucky 15’s this year. Last 3 years I’ve done super Heinz and I’m thinking lucky 15 is a better option. Any thoughts on this

    Lucky 15s are a better bet simply because you lose so many bets once you've had a loser on a super heinz - from 120 bets you lose 63 for one loser and 94 if you have two.

    If you do a Lucky 15 with Betfred you should get 3 times the price for one winner (most only pay twice) - so one winner at bigger than 9/2 and you will be in front on the bet. Even a 3/1 winner gets you 2/3rds of your stake back. For a Lucky 63 (6 selections) I think Betfred pay 5 times but it means that even a 12/1 isn't going to get you your money back.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    Addick Addict said:

    cabbles said:

    For the uneducated plastic horse racing fan like me that only crops up for this week and the grand national, I’m thinking of doing lucky 15’s this year. Last 3 years I’ve done super Heinz and I’m thinking lucky 15 is a better option. Any thoughts on this

    Lucky 15s are a better bet simply because you lose so many bets once you've had a loser on a super heinz - from 120 bets you lose 63 for one loser and 94 if you have two.

    If you do a Lucky 15 with Betfred you should get 3 times the price for one winner (most only pay twice) - so one winner at bigger than 9/2 and you will be in front on the bet. Even a 3/1 winner gets you 2/3rds of your stake back. For a Lucky 63 (6 selections) I think Betfred pay 5 times but it means that even a 12/1 isn't going to get you your money back.
    Ta mate

    I’ve also realised how hard it is just to dip into this. When you read the guides immediately numerous opinions on who to go for, all contradicting one another. Really where you need a bit of knowledge. Let’s see. I’m looking forward to it
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    I thoroughly recommend Ben Linfoot's Value Bet which has shown a consistent profit over the years. Granted, I think he's better on the flat, but I'd definitely have a look at his e/w selections.

    Cogry is one that came to mind immediately when looking over the cards, especially given how good he can be on testing ground, and I'm glad Ben agrees!
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Ok I'll start off today's selections. I always look for value, back low-weight horses in handicaps and avoid short price favourites:

    1.30 - First Flow
    2.10 - Petit Mouchoir
    2.50 - Eamon An Cnoic
    3.30- Elgin
    4.10 - La Bague Au Roi
    4.50 - Ms Parfois
    5.30 - Mister Whitaker

    Good luck to everyone who gets involved!

  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    Done a single on mr Whittaker in 5.30.
    And ew lucky 15 on
    1.30 western Ryder
    2.50 cogry 5 places
    4.50 impulsive star 4 places
    5.30 le Rocher 6 places.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    Altior sound this morning so should run tomorrow. My Tent or Yours is a non-runner in the Champion Hurdle.

  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    In @ValleyGary I trust - lumped £20 on first flow to win with Skybet

    Also done a lucky 15

    Good luck all
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    cabbles said:

    In @ValleyGary I trust - lumped £20 on first flow to win with Skybet

    Also done a lucky 15

    Good luck all

    haha i apologise now mate!

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