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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I seconded this. Pleaseoohaahmortimer said:
can you just answer this question on the hour every hour till this is done , thanks in advancebertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
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'His reputation over here is ruined by the protests' and he hasn't noticed? Because he 'never come over here'?Really?Nug said:
Really? I don't think he gives two shits about the protests. Apart from a few minor annoyances in Belgium I bet he's barely noticed. His reputation over here is ruined by the protests but the fact he never comes here means it's had little effect on him personally. He only wants to save face financially and walk away saying it was an interesting experiment but I at least I didn't lose any money. It's ridiculous to think he's doing it out of spite.JamesSeed said:
He is interested in selling, but he doesn't want to be seen as losing to the protesters.Missed It said:Dazzler21 said:
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.
He doesnt give two shits about the protests but 'only wants to save face financially', as if losing face financially and personally aren't inextricably linked to someone like him?
I think the protests had some effect on him, but no, they certainly weren't the only reason he's packing his train set away. But every little helps Nug.
(Btw I was replying to Nug on my new tablet and my reply sort of disappeared, so I started again. Turned out it posted itself, hence my two replies. The new tablet is good though, despite the unadvertised auto post thing).1 -
Don't make sense.flyingkiwiDK said:
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.bertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
Why not just make an offer.2 -
Possibly because DD is still ongoing. I don't know.Charltonparklane said:
Don't make sense.flyingkiwiDK said:
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.bertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
Why not just make an offer.0 -
I think there's another way of assessing what effect the UK based protests had on Duchatelet; ie they royally pissed off Katrien Meire to the point where she wanted out and, with her departure, so too went a very significant part of his interest. I happen to think the worldwide press coverage of the protests would have been a major irritation to Duchatelet too, but that's just a matter of opinion.JamesSeed said:
Keep yer 'air on! Why the aggressive tone?Nug said:
Really? I don't think he gives two shits about the protests. Apart from a few minor annoyances in Belgium I bet he's barely noticed. His reputation over here is ruined by the protests but the fact he never comes here means it's had little effect on him personally. He only wants to save face financially and walk away saying it was an interesting experiment but I at least I didn't lose any money. It's ridiculous to think he's doing it out of spite.JamesSeed said:
He is interested in selling, but he doesn't want to be seen as losing to the protesters.Missed It said:Dazzler21 said:
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.
The fact he never comes here certainly doesn't mean the protests have had little effect on him. How can that be the case if, as you yourself said, 'his reputation over here is ruined by the protests'. He doesn't live in a little Belgium business bubble you know.
I didn't say he was doing it out of spite, but as you say, he wants to save face, and selling the club at a personal loss would hardly achieve that21 -
Let’s face it . It’s not happening .0
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It will happen. Keep the faith.Bedsaddick said:Let’s face it . It’s not happening .
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15 JuneBedsaddick said:Let’s face it . It’s not happening .
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Tony Bloom at Brighton.killerandflash said:Football is in a funny and dangerous place now. The sums required to be competitive are so large, that the "local businessman putting something back into their local club" types are completely priced out of all clubs in the the top 2 or 3 divisions, unless a club is incredibly lucky. And even then (e.g. at Palace or Swansea) the next phase involved foreign investors
You look at all the takeovers of clubs in recent years, in how many cases were the new owners genuine fans?2 - Sponsored links:
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Is that a hidden message?flyingkiwiDK said:
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.bertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
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so back to Red Bull againflyingkiwiDK said:
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.bertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
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It is becoming a bit too much of a stretch. To keep the faith the general nature of the rumours needs to up it's game several notches.flyingkiwiDK said:
It will happen. Keep the faith.Bedsaddick said:Let’s face it . It’s not happening .
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Either that or they are waiting until we are on a par with Welling.LargeAddick said:
so back to Red Bull againflyingkiwiDK said:
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.bertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
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Maybe they're the only bidders to have sussed out RD & rather than get involved in his childish posturing & waste their energy, they're playing a waiting game.Charltonparklane said:
Don't make sense.flyingkiwiDK said:
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.bertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
Why not just make an offer.
When The Rat has pissed off the competition & comes begging, they'll be holding all the cards.0 -
What does everyone think about Red Bull moving us to the peninsula?6
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I expect your post to have at least 3 flags by tomorrow morningCallumcafc said:What does everyone think about Red Bull moving us to the peninsula?
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This had me for a minute.20 -
If I was buying a house for 25 million quid it would be from bloody Roland , that's for sure.0
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£25m house - that would be a rather pokey bedsit at Mad Roly prices.0
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Don't forget to add the owners debt to the value of the house to get the overall enterprise value of the house.grumpyaddick said:If I was buying a house for 25 million quid it would be from bloody Roland , that's for sure.
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Confucius he say: Rich business man who use duct tape on shoe and senior rail card when plenty of Rickshaws available must have such deep pockets full of gold that one day stitches will perish, fortune will be lost and man left poor but feeling cocky all day.Henry Irving said:
Soapbox Sam confirms rumours of Chinese buyers.soapboxsam said:Being stuck on this circle line of Chinese whispers is making me travel sick. I've just passed Sloane square for the 530 time.
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Please accept this post as my offer of £100M for the club.flyingkiwiDK said:
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.bertpalmer said:Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
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A little harsh to have no sympathy for a group who appear to value discretion in their business dealings. If they were under the impression they were in an exclusivity period then I would have thought they would have every right to be upset. If they are not then they are being naive to be upset. Simple as that I think.MartinCAFC said:
I have no sympathy for The Aussies. Seeing as they are conducting there business in secrecy which is totally understandable then it's laughable if they've been upset with Murray's statement.Airman Brown said:The Aussies were very unhappy with Murray's statement that the price had been agreed with a second party, I'm told.
I could have some sympathy if it was on record officially they were in the running but the last I checked it's all been unconfirmed reports or rumours, no hard quotes from The Aussies to confirm there interest. Murray's statement didn't specify anybody either so IMO The Aussies don't have anything to get upset about based on the game they're playing.
And if Murray's statement really upset them that much then they should either get on with it and do the deal or pull out simple as that. Happy for them to pull out so long as RedHenry's group are still at the table.4 -
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we are more likely to end up with The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.16
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Better than the Flanders Prince of Bell-EndLargeAddick said:we are more likely to end up with The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
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How about the Artist formerly known as Prince, what, he’s dead, even so, he’d still make more sense than Roly0
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daveydanger said:
Better than the Flanders Prince of Bell-EndLargeAddick said:we are more likely to end up with The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
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