The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.
He is interested in selling, but he doesn't want to be seen as losing to the protesters.
Really? I don't think he gives two shits about the protests. Apart from a few minor annoyances in Belgium I bet he's barely noticed. His reputation over here is ruined by the protests but the fact he never comes here means it's had little effect on him personally. He only wants to save face financially and walk away saying it was an interesting experiment but I at least I didn't lose any money. It's ridiculous to think he's doing it out of spite.
'His reputation over here is ruined by the protests' and he hasn't noticed? Because he 'never come over here'?Really? He doesnt give two shits about the protests but 'only wants to save face financially', as if losing face financially and personally aren't inextricably linked to someone like him?
I think the protests had some effect on him, but no, they certainly weren't the only reason he's packing his train set away. But every little helps Nug.
(Btw I was replying to Nug on my new tablet and my reply sort of disappeared, so I started again. Turned out it posted itself, hence my two replies. The new tablet is good though, despite the unadvertised auto post thing).
The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.
He is interested in selling, but he doesn't want to be seen as losing to the protesters.
Really? I don't think he gives two shits about the protests. Apart from a few minor annoyances in Belgium I bet he's barely noticed. His reputation over here is ruined by the protests but the fact he never comes here means it's had little effect on him personally. He only wants to save face financially and walk away saying it was an interesting experiment but I at least I didn't lose any money. It's ridiculous to think he's doing it out of spite.
Keep yer 'air on! Why the aggressive tone?
The fact he never comes here certainly doesn't mean the protests have had little effect on him. How can that be the case if, as you yourself said, 'his reputation over here is ruined by the protests'. He doesn't live in a little Belgium business bubble you know. I didn't say he was doing it out of spite, but as you say, he wants to save face, and selling the club at a personal loss would hardly achieve that
I think there's another way of assessing what effect the UK based protests had on Duchatelet; ie they royally pissed off Katrien Meire to the point where she wanted out and, with her departure, so too went a very significant part of his interest. I happen to think the worldwide press coverage of the protests would have been a major irritation to Duchatelet too, but that's just a matter of opinion.
Football is in a funny and dangerous place now. The sums required to be competitive are so large, that the "local businessman putting something back into their local club" types are completely priced out of all clubs in the the top 2 or 3 divisions, unless a club is incredibly lucky. And even then (e.g. at Palace or Swansea) the next phase involved foreign investors
You look at all the takeovers of clubs in recent years, in how many cases were the new owners genuine fans?
Redhenry are your rich mob still in,can you give us any hope??
From what I've heard they are waiting in the wings and will match any offer made for the club.
Don't make sense. Why not just make an offer.
Maybe they're the only bidders to have sussed out RD & rather than get involved in his childish posturing & waste their energy, they're playing a waiting game.
When The Rat has pissed off the competition & comes begging, they'll be holding all the cards.
Being stuck on this circle line of Chinese whispers is making me travel sick. I've just passed Sloane square for the 530 time.
Soapbox Sam confirms rumours of Chinese buyers.
Confucius he say: Rich business man who use duct tape on shoe and senior rail card when plenty of Rickshaws available must have such deep pockets full of gold that one day stitches will perish, fortune will be lost and man left poor but feeling cocky all day.
The Aussies were very unhappy with Murray's statement that the price had been agreed with a second party, I'm told.
I have no sympathy for The Aussies. Seeing as they are conducting there business in secrecy which is totally understandable then it's laughable if they've been upset with Murray's statement.
I could have some sympathy if it was on record officially they were in the running but the last I checked it's all been unconfirmed reports or rumours, no hard quotes from The Aussies to confirm there interest. Murray's statement didn't specify anybody either so IMO The Aussies don't have anything to get upset about based on the game they're playing.
And if Murray's statement really upset them that much then they should either get on with it and do the deal or pull out simple as that. Happy for them to pull out so long as RedHenry's group are still at the table.
A little harsh to have no sympathy for a group who appear to value discretion in their business dealings. If they were under the impression they were in an exclusivity period then I would have thought they would have every right to be upset. If they are not then they are being naive to be upset. Simple as that I think.
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The end of each working day would suffice ( and perhaps lunch and tea breaks)
He doesnt give two shits about the protests but 'only wants to save face financially', as if losing face financially and personally aren't inextricably linked to someone like him?
I think the protests had some effect on him, but no, they certainly weren't the only reason he's packing his train set away. But every little helps Nug.
(Btw I was replying to Nug on my new tablet and my reply sort of disappeared, so I started again. Turned out it posted itself, hence my two replies. The new tablet is good though, despite the unadvertised auto post thing).
Why not just make an offer.
When The Rat has pissed off the competition & comes begging, they'll be holding all the cards.
This had me for a minute.