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Well of course. While the Podesta/Benghazi stuff was exaggerated to an absurd extent, the stain of Bill's misdemeanours and Hillary's alleged role in covering them up was a dark mark against her. There was enough dirt on her to convince many voters that she simply couldn't be trusted. Next time, the Dems have to pick someone against whom a plausible or even semi-plausible case couldn't be built1
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Trump will get a second term imoLeuth said:Well of course. While the Podesta/Benghazi stuff was exaggerated to an absurd extent, the stain of Bill's misdemeanours and Hillary's alleged role in covering them up was a dark mark against her. There was enough dirt on her to convince many voters that she simply couldn't be trusted. Next time, the Dems have to pick someone against whom a plausible or even semi-plausible case couldn't be built
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Very good!Leuth said:Well of course. While the Podesta/Benghazi stuff was exaggerated to an absurd extent, the stain of Bill's misdemeanours and Hillary's alleged role in covering them up was a dark mark against her. There was enough dirt on her to convince many voters that she simply couldn't be trusted. Next time, the Dems have to pick someone against whom a plausible or even semi-plausible case couldn't be built
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I have no idea how he could, given that his policies so far are either wildly unpopular or haven't actually happened.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Trump will get a second term imoLeuth said:Well of course. While the Podesta/Benghazi stuff was exaggerated to an absurd extent, the stain of Bill's misdemeanours and Hillary's alleged role in covering them up was a dark mark against her. There was enough dirt on her to convince many voters that she simply couldn't be trusted. Next time, the Dems have to pick someone against whom a plausible or even semi-plausible case couldn't be built
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...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA0
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If his supporters blame "the establishment" for blocking his policies, they may still vote for himLeuth said:
I have no idea how he could, given that his policies so far are either wildly unpopular or haven't actually happened.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Trump will get a second term imoLeuth said:Well of course. While the Podesta/Benghazi stuff was exaggerated to an absurd extent, the stain of Bill's misdemeanours and Hillary's alleged role in covering them up was a dark mark against her. There was enough dirt on her to convince many voters that she simply couldn't be trusted. Next time, the Dems have to pick someone against whom a plausible or even semi-plausible case couldn't be built
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@Leroy Ambrose anymore news for me? I see she’s hired a famous divorce attorney. I’ll give up Katrien if you can make this happen. Tell her I’m also growing my beard out for the winter so have that rugged woodsman look if she’s into that
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There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.0 -
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.1 -
While I agree to a point it does depend on the law he's allowed to pass. If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next election which is why there's no way in hell of it ever being allowed to happen. His tax policies on the other hand are highly likely to piss off his base so might well get waved through.Leuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.0 - Sponsored links:
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Call me naive but I have a tiny, tiny bit more faith in humanity than thisSantaClaus said:
If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next electionLeuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.0 -
Yet he was elected president in the first place, it's not as if the fact he is a raving lunatic was a secret.Leuth said:
Call me naive but I have a tiny, tiny bit more faith in humanity than thisSantaClaus said:
If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next electionLeuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.0 -
I'd say that it would galvanise his base and lead to an increased share of the vote compared to 2016. Then again I'm a cynical bastard who long ago lost any faith in humanity.Leuth said:
Call me naive but I have a tiny, tiny bit more faith in humanity than thisSantaClaus said:
If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next electionLeuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.0 -
Have to say I agree with you as I like the way he has been at the forefront of calling out republicans for their recent plans on repealing Obamacare and the Russian collusion scandal and then have scandal of your own.SDAddick said:
Time for him to go.1StevieG said:Another allegation made against Al Franken -
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Jon Sopel the very highly respected BBC USA Correspondent says it's very likely Trump will win a second term.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Yet he was elected president in the first place, it's not as if the fact he is a raving lunatic was a secret.Leuth said:
Call me naive but I have a tiny, tiny bit more faith in humanity than thisSantaClaus said:
If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next electionLeuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.1 -
Sometimes politicians pretend to be one thing, then reveal their secret agenda and true personality once they've wonStu_of_Kunming said:
Yet he was elected president in the first place, it's not as if the fact he is a raving lunatic was a secret.Leuth said:
Call me naive but I have a tiny, tiny bit more faith in humanity than thisSantaClaus said:
If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next electionLeuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.
In the case of Trump, it was all there during the election. People (whatever out opinions) voted for him and his policies...0 -
Silent majority mateLeuth said:
I have no idea how he could, given that his policies so far are either wildly unpopular or haven't actually happened.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Trump will get a second term imoLeuth said:Well of course. While the Podesta/Benghazi stuff was exaggerated to an absurd extent, the stain of Bill's misdemeanours and Hillary's alleged role in covering them up was a dark mark against her. There was enough dirt on her to convince many voters that she simply couldn't be trusted. Next time, the Dems have to pick someone against whom a plausible or even semi-plausible case couldn't be built
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Funny you should say that - I was down South last weekend and caught up with my mates for a beer. There was a heated discussion around whether or not she knew he was a filthy bastard. Consensus was that she did - but not to the extent it's become apparent now. I did say there's a fella I don't know from Adam on a messageboard on the Internet who wants a go on her and that I'd get my mate to ask his missus to ask her mate whether she was into it. Not heard back on that as yet - will keep you updated...cabbles said:@Leroy Ambrose anymore news for me? I see she’s hired a famous divorce attorney. I’ll give up Katrien if you can make this happen. Tell her I’m also growing my beard out for the winter so have that rugged woodsman look if she’s into that
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You did tell them and your missus I’m not just any old fella though, you did highlight I’m a moderatorLeroy Ambrose said:
Funny you should say that - I was down South last weekend and caught up with my mates for a beer. There was a heated discussion around whether or not she knew he was a filthy bastard. Consensus was that she did - but not to the extent it's become apparent now. I did say there's a fella I don't know from Adam on a messageboard on the Internet who wants a go on her and that I'd get my mate to ask his missus to ask her mate whether she was into it. Not heard back on that as yet - will keep you updated...cabbles said:@Leroy Ambrose anymore news for me? I see she’s hired a famous divorce attorney. I’ll give up Katrien if you can make this happen. Tell her I’m also growing my beard out for the winter so have that rugged woodsman look if she’s into that
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Dammit. No I didn't. Also, I didn't know about your Man Of The Mountains beard, so neglected to mention that too.cabbles said:
You did tell them and your missus I’m not just any old fella though, you did highlight I’m a moderatorLeroy Ambrose said:
Funny you should say that - I was down South last weekend and caught up with my mates for a beer. There was a heated discussion around whether or not she knew he was a filthy bastard. Consensus was that she did - but not to the extent it's become apparent now. I did say there's a fella I don't know from Adam on a messageboard on the Internet who wants a go on her and that I'd get my mate to ask his missus to ask her mate whether she was into it. Not heard back on that as yet - will keep you updated...cabbles said:@Leroy Ambrose anymore news for me? I see she’s hired a famous divorce attorney. I’ll give up Katrien if you can make this happen. Tell her I’m also growing my beard out for the winter so have that rugged woodsman look if she’s into that
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He'd be like 101 years old by then! He was the oldest person ever to be elected - it surprised me that he was older than good old Ronnie was when he got elected.Riviera said:
Jon Sopel the very highly respected BBC USA Correspondent says it's very likely Trump will win a second term.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Yet he was elected president in the first place, it's not as if the fact he is a raving lunatic was a secret.Leuth said:
Call me naive but I have a tiny, tiny bit more faith in humanity than thisSantaClaus said:
If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next electionLeuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.0 -
People voted against the DAMN COMMIE LIBRALS WHO WANT GAY MEXICAN ISLAMS IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD, and they voted for the big loud confident asshole who'd been on their televisions. I wish I was exaggerating. When their lives descend even further into the shit, even they might see sense. Plus, there was a low turnout and Clinton still won the popular vote. I can see a LOT more people lining up to vote next time. Whether they get vetted for race and then turned away from the poll booths by intimidatory gangs of neofascists remains to be seen.killerandflash said:
Sometimes politicians pretend to be one thing, then reveal their secret agenda and true personality once they've wonStu_of_Kunming said:
Yet he was elected president in the first place, it's not as if the fact he is a raving lunatic was a secret.Leuth said:
Call me naive but I have a tiny, tiny bit more faith in humanity than thisSantaClaus said:
If for example Trump was able to force through his ban on Muslims entering the country he'd walk the next electionLeuth said:
Pass one of his laws, I think. Maybe the longer he's not able to do anything, the longer he can keep blaming others and holding onto power by harnessing the resentment of the citizenryStu_of_Kunming said:
There was a great piece on the BBC a week or two back, it was looking at how an election would go if it happened now, 3 of the 5 experts suggested Trump would still have more than a fighting chance if another election was fought now (or whenever the article was posted) one even went as far as to claim Trump would have still beaten Hillary.Leuth said:...unless the Dems choose a candidate who once swore at their mum or something, then it's over, MAGA
It's pretty scary, what the hell does he have to do to lose his 'base'.
In the case of Trump, it was all there during the election. People (whatever out opinions) voted for him and his policies...0 -
Also, Trump totally HAS been two-faced. He's lied almost every time he's opened his mouth! DRAIN THE SWAMP he cried, before installing America's most rapacious billionaires to his government and planning the most bald-faced corporate tax cut in history. He's corrupt as shit and a total fraud. A snivelling, insecure coward who's sexually abused multiple women, to keep things on topic, and who's completely incapable of telling a straight truth2
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I'd love to see a (lost) Trump canvasser knocking on your door Leuth :-)Leuth said:Also, Trump totally HAS been two-faced. He's lied almost every time he's opened his mouth! DRAIN THE SWAMP he cried, before installing America's most rapacious billionaires to his government and planning the most bald-faced corporate tax cut in history. He's corrupt as shit and a total fraud. A snivelling, insecure coward who's sexually abused multiple women, to keep things on topic, and who's completely incapable of telling a straight truth
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I had a gay Mexican muslim in my house once.
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Without wanting to belittle any of the accusations or indeed proven incidents that have hit the headlines in the last few weeks, it does seem to be now that you can not any longer have a past. Surely all of us over 40 years (except Henry Irving, Leroy Ambrose and all the other holier than thou posters on here) have done or said things in our past that we are now ashamed of. We've all told or laughed at jokes in our past that today would be seen as sexist, racist, homophobic or just downright unacceptable. However we have seen the error of our ways and so has society and we are sorry and we do not do it anymore. So why do people in the public eye keep getting pulled up for indiscretions OF A VERBAL NOT PHYSICAL nature from years ago just because it is on Twitter etc and have to fall on their sword?1
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Many serious accusations but it's all being magnified by the lense of social media. Let's not worry about proof or courts. Accusations seem to be enough these days.0
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Matt Lauer, one of the highest earners at NBC has been fired after being investigated for inappropriate behavior.1
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And garrison Keillor. Serves him right for being called garrison0
