Karl Robinson (Ed. Page 79 - GONE- Mutual Consent)

Would still sack him for Chris Powell under new owners.

Dazzler21 said:

Really?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

killerandflash said:

Luzon is currently Maccabi Haifa manager at the moment, so hasn't done badly for himself since leaving us

So this plan (like all his others) went well for him then..... newsshopper.co.uk/sport/14383648.Former_Charlton_Athletic_boss_still_lives_in_London_and_wants_another_job_in_England/

What happened to the move to Wigan?

killerandflash said:

Luzon is currently Maccabi Haifa manager at the moment, so hasn't done badly for himself since leaving us

Looking at ex-managers over the last decade:

- Pardew....nowhere
- Parkinson....Bolton where he's had success and Bradford City before that (also a successful spell)
- Powell....nowhere
- Riga....Cercle Brugge in Belgium. Reasonable spells with Standard Liege and Metz as well between his 2 spells with us
- Peeters....nowhere
- Luzon....Maccabi Haifa after a disastrous spell at Hapoel Tel Aviv (they were relegated)
- Fraeye....nowhere
- Slade....Grimsby Town after Coventry City and neither a success (to date)

Summary - 50% are out of the game.

You have to sat that although Powell did the business for us in 2012 he hasn't set the world alight subsequently. Bit like Curbishley in many ways after leaving the Valley. Riga stands out as the best manager imported by Duchatelet and Parkinson as easily the best we had pre-Powell.

For my money Robinson is about a good as we could get at this stage. His form at MK Dons 2 x play-offs and a promotion from League One speaks for itself.

simonmatthews said:

killerandflash said:

Luzon is currently Maccabi Haifa manager at the moment, so hasn't done badly for himself since leaving us

Looking at ex-managers over the last decade:

- Pardew....nowhere
- Parkinson....Bolton where he's had success and Bradford City before that (also a successful spell)
- Powell....nowhere
- Riga....Cercle Brugge in Belgium. Reasonable spells with Standard Liege and Metz as well between his 2 spells with us
- Peeters....nowhere
- Luzon....Maccabi Haifa after a disastrous spell at Hapoel Tel Aviv (they were relegated)
- Fraeye....nowhere
- Slade....Grimsby Town after Coventry City and neither a success (to date)

Summary - 50% are out of the game.

You have to sat that although Powell did the business for us in 2012 he hasn't set the world alight subsequently. Bit like Curbishley in many ways after leaving the Valley. Riga stands out as the best manager imported by Duchatelet and Parkinson as easily the best we had pre-Powell.

For my money Robinson is about a good as we could get at this stage. His form at MK Dons 2 x play-offs and a promotion from League One speaks for itself.

Slightly unfair on Pardew, who's been managing pretty much continually since and before he left us, mainly in the PL...

Good to hear more positive comments about Robinson. Credit that's been long overdue if we're honest.

killerandflash said:

simonmatthews said:

killerandflash said:

Luzon is currently Maccabi Haifa manager at the moment, so hasn't done badly for himself since leaving us

Looking at ex-managers over the last decade:

- Pardew....nowhere
- Parkinson....Bolton where he's had success and Bradford City before that (also a successful spell)
- Powell....nowhere
- Riga....Cercle Brugge in Belgium. Reasonable spells with Standard Liege and Metz as well between his 2 spells with us
- Peeters....nowhere
- Luzon....Maccabi Haifa after a disastrous spell at Hapoel Tel Aviv (they were relegated)
- Fraeye....nowhere
- Slade....Grimsby Town after Coventry City and neither a success (to date)

Summary - 50% are out of the game.

You have to sat that although Powell did the business for us in 2012 he hasn't set the world alight subsequently. Bit like Curbishley in many ways after leaving the Valley. Riga stands out as the best manager imported by Duchatelet and Parkinson as easily the best we had pre-Powell.

For my money Robinson is about a good as we could get at this stage. His form at MK Dons 2 x play-offs and a promotion from League One speaks for itself.

Slightly unfair on Pardew, who's been shagging pretty much continually since and before he left us, mainly in the PL...

EFA

Wouldn't change manager now. Robinson has built his team and so far it's working. Let's see how far he can take us.

He likes wingers, overlapping full backs and a bustling centre forward, for me good old fashioned lower league football, it is winning us games and a team to enjoy watching, good on yer Karl if he gets us up he will I hope finally quieten the Powellites and Kermites on here - as good as they were, and I loved that promotion winning season, move on.

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KR is the best possible manager we can have and get at this present moment. No doubt about it. The reasons and the goals we have conceded are not tactical mistakes. Walsall for example no manager plans to score a winner in the 87th and then concede in the 88th. He is a very clever guy tactically we don't want to be in L1 he can get us out which he has proved previously!!!

bolloxbolder said:

I'll have whatever you're on.

well who else could we get that would do a better job than Robinson then? We have improved drastically under him, he's signed good players to fit the system and it getting the best out of someone like Sarr who was wrote off by all.

Henry Irving said:

tommy12317 said:

KR is the best possible manager we can have and get at this present moment. No doubt about it. The reasons and the goals we have conceded are not tactical mistakes. Walsall for example no manager plans to score a winner in the 87th and then concede in the 88th. He is a very clever guy tactically we don't want to be in L1 he can get us out which he has proved previously!!!

Don't agree that is is the best possible manager. I would suggest the Paul Hurst is doing a better job right now with fewer resources. 5th is good but not exactly great and we've won one in five.

I think his tactics are fine when we're on top but not so much when we are struggling and things need to change. When teams press up we struggle and it was interesting that Fleetwood didn't do that and we beat them.

He has assembled a good, if "very, very small" squad and has the players playing for him which is to his credit. The points total is just under the two per game needed for promotion so no need to panic and we're well set to aim for the top two despite the five point gap already.

He did get MK Dons promoted before that is true but after quite a few failed attempts and he was then relegated immediately and then sacked when in the bottom half of the table.

I agree with a lot of this. I don't think he got a lot to spend over the summer though, we brought in Amos, Dasilva, Fosu, Reeves, Clarke, Marshall and Dodoo.

Of the 7, 3 are on loan and 2 were free. The two purchases in Fosu and Clarke look good signings. There's no doubt Robinson can spot a decent League 1 player.

Dodoo was the only dud and was no doubt a panic signing. I don't blame him for that at all, even though he does look to run his mouth a little and tried to convince us we would be impressed by him.

Powell was probably going to get us relegated and I am panicking about whether or not he could keep us in the Championship just yet as we need to get there first.

cafcfan1990 said:

Henry Irving said:

tommy12317 said:

KR is the best possible manager we can have and get at this present moment. No doubt about it. The reasons and the goals we have conceded are not tactical mistakes. Walsall for example no manager plans to score a winner in the 87th and then concede in the 88th. He is a very clever guy tactically we don't want to be in L1 he can get us out which he has proved previously!!!

Don't agree that is is the best possible manager. I would suggest the Paul Hurst is doing a better job right now with fewer resources. 5th is good but not exactly great and we've won one in five.

I think his tactics are fine when we're on top but not so much when we are struggling and things need to change. When teams press up we struggle and it was interesting that Fleetwood didn't do that and we beat them.

He has assembled a good, if "very, very small" squad and has the players playing for him which is to his credit. The points total is just under the two per game needed for promotion so no need to panic and we're well set to aim for the top two despite the five point gap already.

He did get MK Dons promoted before that is true but after quite a few failed attempts and he was then relegated immediately and then sacked when in the bottom half of the table.

I agree with a lot of this. I don't think he got a lot to spend over the summer though, we brought in Amos, Dasilva, Fosu, Reeves, Clarke, Marshall and Dodoo.

Of the 7, 3 are on loan and 2 were free. The two purchases in Fosu and Clarke look good signings. There's no doubt Robinson can spot a decent League 1 player.

Dodoo was the only dud and was no doubt a panic signing. I don't blame him for that at all, even though he does look to run his mouth a little and tried to convince us we would be impressed by him.

Powell was probably going to get us relegated and I am panicking about whether or not he could keep us in the Championship just yet as we need to get there first.

quite so, Hope he gets us up and we can worry about the Championship when we get there.