Football Shirts & Betting Companies

Opposite for me. They both go hand in hand.

Football punters pump their money into betting companies.
Betting companies pump their money into football.

Economics 101

The Joey Barton thing has put the footy power brokers in an awkward place.

Betting and alcohol will be banned first, then sweets, fizzy drinks, fast food and fried breakfasts.

We live in a time where all our thinking has to be done for us.

We should be looking for more ethical businesses to sponsor our teams...something like Insurance maybe?!?

Leeds_Addick said:

I don't really care either way about the shirts.

But I do agree that the way the companies operate needs to be regulated better.

For example the way they go about their business on Twitter is shocking. The thread the other day about transfer speculation is a good example but they also have arrangements with those "tipster" accounts that definitely needs to be looked at.

I saw one the other day where an account was photoshopping betslips to make it look like they'd won more than they had. Then they would conveniently put a link in to back his next bet (at the higher/photoshopped stake) and the account gets a % of the money staked. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the betting companies themselves running the tipster accounts.

Love those tipster accounts all scams imo but hey ho. What always gets me is they always recommend a bookmaker to use. Now if all there alleged winning tips did pay off the bookmaker in question would be losing money fast.

Leeds_Addick said:

I don't really care either way about the shirts.

But I do agree that the way the companies operate needs to be regulated better.

For example the way they go about their business on Twitter is shocking. The thread the other day about transfer speculation is a good example but they also have arrangements with those "tipster" accounts that definitely needs to be looked at.

I saw one the other day where an account was photoshopping betslips to make it look like they'd won more than they had. Then they would conveniently put a link in to back his next bet (at the higher/photoshopped stake) and the account gets a % of the money staked. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the betting companies themselves running the tipster accounts.

Very sticky, you're correct. The big tipster accounts make a killing off affiliation money. It's all gonna collapse soon though, SkyBet recently disbanded there affiliate scheme and many in the industry expect others to follow suit in the coming months,

sam3110 said:

So thats about a third of the teams in England needing a new sponsor

Only when Labour get into power......so no rush

It's a nothing comment I guess but I agree with it. I also think the previous ban on gambling companies advertising on tv should be reversed too. But hey-ho I'm ruddy perfect me

Haven't Labour got more important issues to deal with?

I'd be okay with a ban on shirt sponsorship. One of the only things I'm perhaps semi-conservative on is that I'm not too keen to have betting made legal across the US. Betting companies, like alcohol and tobacco companies can (should be noted can, not always do) have predatory business plans that rely on the frequent/compulsive/addicted.

That said, if we wanted to look at unsavory business entities and individuals with strong ties to football, its organizing bodies, and individual clubs we'd be here all night and into tomorrow. That's not a reason to not take action. It'd be like saying "since we can't stop all crime we may as well not make laws" (note: gambling obviously not a crime, this is just an analogy), but I think it's only fair to note that there is a lot of shady money in the game.

Also, in the interest of full disclosure whenever I go to The Valley I'll usually put 2 quid or something down on a result or a first goalscorer or something. The first couple times I did it we won, so it's become something of a good luck charm which admittedly has not brought much luck.

I'm also willing to listen to the other side of things. Because I wasn't raised in England I'm not really used to the culture of betting, which I think by-and-large is wholly harmless, so perhaps I have a perspective that doesn't necessarily match reality.

I do find gambling companies on shirts a tad tacky but its income for clubs so I do sympathise with lower league clubs taking the money from these deals.
Gambling is wasted on me, I have no interest in it. Mugs game.

While I don't like betting companies I thought Betdaq looked decent on the shirts. Some company logos are awful. 

Betting is dreadful blight that is unfortunately  legal. The number of horses injured and destroyed. Greyhounds callously destroyed once they are retired. The corruption and crime associated with gambling is a real problem

The people who lives are destroyied by their terrible addiction,families who are suffering when their parents/ children succumb to gambling.

MrOneLung said:

usetobunkin said:

Betting is dreadful blight that is unfortunately  legal. The number of horses injured and destroyed. Greyhounds callously destroyed once they are retired. The corruption and crime associated with gambling is a real problem

The people who lives are destroyied by their terrible addiction,families who are suffering when their parents/ children succumb to gambling.

Behave. Corruption and crime associated with one of the most regulated industries? 

Hope you don’t have the odd drink mate, as alcohol causes 10 times the issues as gambling 

You are of course quite right. But once I have had a drink I don’t go and shoot an animal because it is of no further use and not cost effective to keep. Much better to slaughter it.