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  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    kentaddick said:

    Both hick and ramprakash were two brilliant batsmen utterly ruined by the bizarre selection policy in the 90's. I think they both were constantly moved up and down the order and never left to settle to nail down a position. Thus the number of tests they played and their averages don't tell even half the story.

    I would have to take issue with some of that mate.

    Graeme Hick was given 65 test matches, and averaged 31, whilst Ramprakash played 52 tests for an average of 27.

    They both were given extended runs in the team, batting in a settled spot (Hick at 5 and Ramps at 3), but for a whole variety of reasons, neither of them ever cemented their places.

    I always felt that Hick's biggest challenge, was the fact that he was built up as our batting saviour during his wait for qualification, and then never fully recovered from the Windies roughing him up in his debut series in 1991.

    As for Ramps, I have heard more than one person say that he was simply too intense, and wanted to suceed too much. He put himself under ridiculous pressure to perform, and just couldn't cope with the fear of failure at test level.

    Won't argue that they were both fine players though.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Let's bounce them out, that'll work!

    Get Moeen on ffs
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    Leuth said:

    Let's bounce them out, that'll work!

    Get Moeen on ffs

    Be patient mate, once one goes the rest will follow
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Leuth said:

    Let's bounce them out, that'll work!

    Get Moeen on ffs

    Are you suggesting Moeen should bowl bouncers ?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    I'm suggesting that bowling short at these two batsmen is probably not going to work. Elgar plays the short one brilliantly and Bavuma's about 4 feet tall so he'll have seen a bouncer or two in his life
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    As Blackpool says, once one goes then the rest will go. They were bound to have a partnership at some stage.
    Whats the size of crowd?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Wow - what a review! Thought that had to be outside the line, but just about in
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    TRJ MOTM is BACK ON
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    On hat trick !
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    what an anti-climax , they now take a drinks break !
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2017
    following this on cricindia cricinfo , which after the re-vamp is shite.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Hat-trick ball edged a foot short of Stokes!
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    double wicket maiden.
    If he had got the hat-trick I think almost certainly would be MOTM
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Just been mentioned on Cricindia that Englands total runs is 666
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    I see Addick Billy the Barmy Army trumpeter is there today.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Ali gets Morris with last ball of morning session.
    7 down.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Decent crowd here for a 5th day, indeed the Oval is a lot nicer when only a third to half full as you can walk around!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    Anyone listen to the Wind up played on Boycott by Aggers?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05b5j5t

    Absolute Jaffa. Brilliant stuff.
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    8!
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    It's even better when you can see his reactions.

    When @Aggerscricket received a 'press release', @GeoffreyBoycott wasn't expecting what was to follow...#bbccricket pic.twitter.com/4poNOfQRlN

    — Test Match Special (@bbctms) July 31, 2017
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Think the TRJ ten-fer and MOTM dream is over. Smashed to death by Maharaj
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Ali on a hat-trick. Bet Stokes ruins that dream too by taking the final wicket (tbf he's caught all of Moeen's wickets so far)
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Moeeeeeeeeen
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    Yes Mo!

    What a way to win the game!!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    Hat trick!!
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    cantersaddick said:

    The_President said:

    No - one has ever taken a hat-trick in 100 tests at The Oval - would have been quite fitting for Stokes after his century in first innings.

    It would have been nice but of all the great bowlers to have played test cricket at the oval Stokes doesn't feel right as the first one in that list.

    Having said that Chris Tremlett has an ODI hat trick so clearly being a good bowler has nothing to do with it.
    Point still stands. Of all the greats to bowl in a test match at the oval it'll always be strange that 'a batter who bowls a bit' is the one who takes the first hat trick.

    Mo is the first spinner to do so for England in a test match since 1938
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    GET IN MOEEN
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Get in Moeen, great bowling!!!
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    Nice.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    We still need a real spinner :-)

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