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French Open 2017

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  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    Looks like Nadal's to loose, though could be surprised by Wawrinka, who has also not dropped a set.. Murray has been improving throughout the tournament but has played some much longer sets. It catches up. Look at Nishikori against Murray, Nishikori completely ran out of steam. Not surprising after the 5 setters he has played in earlier rounds.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    He had actually played 20 minutes less on court than Murray. Think he will play well tomorrow and beat Stan.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited June 2017
    As ever it depends which Andy turns up. He could slog it out for a 4 or 5 set win or he could lose in 3. I don't think he will win in 3. He makes a speciality out of playing long, defensive, attritional tennis and that will less comfortable for Wawrinka who is not as patient and likes to play winners and get the points over - which he has been able to do with the much less able players he has met so far in the tournament - but Murray is a different story. He could simply wear him down. However if he lets Wawrinka dictate the play from the opening games it could be a very different story. He seems almost comfortable with losing the first set or at least going down a break. He will know that he cannot afford to do that with the world #3.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    As ever it depends which Andy turns up. He could slog it out for a 4 or 5 set win or he could lose in 3. I don't think he will win in 3. He makes a speciality out of playing long, defensive, attritional tennis and that will less comfortable for Wawrinka who is not as patient and likes to play winners and get the points over - which he has been able to do with the much less able players he has met so far in the tournament - but Murray is a different story. He could simply wear him down. However if he lets Wawrinka dictate the play from the opening games it could be a very different story. He seems almost comfortable with losing the first set or at least going down a break. He will know that he cannot afford to do that with the world #3.

    Excellent analysis mate. Spot on.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Both players are so mercurial that predictions are pointless. Either or both of them could have a world class match equally either or both could have a stinker. For what it's worth I think Stan is the better player (maybe even the best in the world) when it all clicks but Murray pulls it together more consistently.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    SantaClaus said:

    Both players are so mercurial that predictions are pointless. Either or both of them could have a world class match equally either or both could have a stinker. For what it's worth I think Stan is the better player (maybe even the best in the world) when it all clicks but Murray pulls it together more consistently.

    Stan has an incredible record at peaking in Grand Slams when you look at his overall record elsewhere. Murray's denied it in his BBC column today, but I'm sure it would hurt if Stan won here and went ahead with 4 Grand Slams!
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Murray seems to lose focus for a couple of games every set he plays at the minute, yesterday in the 3rd set, just after breaking him, Nishikori looked well and truly beaten yet Murray played a shocking service game, gifted the break back and Nishikori took the set to the tie break. Yes Murray won the breaker to love i think but it should never have got there in the first place.

    Those lapses of concentration Vs Stan or Rafa will probably cost him the set and ultimately the match, but neither Stan or Rafa have been tested yet so we will have to see which Murray turns up.
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    On serve in 1st set, Stan 3-2 up and playing more aggressively than Murray.
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Poor Murray service game gives Stan the break, he now serves for the 1st set.
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Murray breaks back, serving @ 4-5 down.
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  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    First set tie break
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Murray wins a cracking tie break, first set 70 takes minutes. First dropped set for Stan this tournament, gonna be a long afternoon
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Murray broken, now 3-4 down, Stan serving
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Second set Stan 6-3,
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Oh bollocks it's all gone tits up.
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Stan definitely on top, have to go out for couple of hours now so hope it's still going when I get back.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Yeah! Murray breaks back!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    Yeah! Murray breaks back!

    Broken straight back :(
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    And Murray breaks straight back himself!!
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    I know this is nothing new but Murray's defense is just phenomenal.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Murray breaks to go 6-5 and will serve for the set.

    I wonder if his nickname is the fly amongst other players as however hard they try just cant swat him away!!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Murray takes the 3rd set... Didnt see that happening a little while ago
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    Looked like the game was going away from him, losing 7 games in a row but suddenly out of nowhere he's turned it round
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Some really high quality tennis here, when you see some of the endless slugging that you often see nowadays (especially in the women's game)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Stan wins fourth set.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Callumcafc said:

    Stan wins fourth set.

    Awful tie break from Murray there!!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Broken in the very first service game... Murray looks toast at the moment
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Stan probably has the best backhand ever
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Double break for Stan in the fifth set.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    I think thats it for Murray now... Based on his form this year he should be happy with a Semi-Final finish @ the French, should now come back to England to prepare for Queens and Wimbledon!!

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