Sunderland boss David Moyes says he "deeply regrets" telling a BBC reporter she might "get a slap".

Someone should get Chris Gayle's views on the incident.

palarsehater said:

a manager getting annoyed with a reporter any excuse to get this out;

big nosed prick look like he was about to cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7Zd8o6vBM

Si

MrLargo said:

SDAddick said:

Interesting from The Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/david-moyes-slap-interview-vicki-sparks-sunderland-sacking-a7665236.html

Unless he has never, ever spoken harshly towards a male journalist, I'm not sure of the relevance of his apparent previous history of very occasionally being a bit mean to female journalists. Obviously I can see what The Independent is trying to achieve - they've made a point of referencing some genuinely sexist behaviour from Laurent Blanc in the same article to help promote their "David Moyes hates woman" agenda.

I thought the whole point of gender equality was that women and men should be treated the same. There are ample examples of managers being rude to male journalists - nobody ever suggests they should lose their job over it.

Genuinely confused - is the suggestion that he wouldn't have reprimanded a male journalist who had pursued the same line of questioning, or that he shouldn't speak to a female reporter like that, regardless of how we would address a male reporter? Does anyone actually think that there was an actual threat of violence, a genuine possibility that Moyes might actually strike the BBC journo next time she was perceived to have stepped out of line?

This is so obviously the media creating a story for the sake of having a story and they'll doubtless drag it out for a couple more days - "Germaine Greer has called for David Moyes to be chemically castrated", "Kerry Katona has claimed that the scandal-hit Sunderland manager once called her a stupid fat cow", etc, etc.

Feel sorry for Vicki Sparks - no doubt worked extremely hard to build her career and will undoubtedly be treated with an element of suspicion when she's going about her business from now on.

I apologize because I did that "here's a link" think and didn't write around it with my thoughts or any context. Regarding what he has done or has not done with male journalists, I don't know. But your last paragraph, along with the Indy article, highlights the difficulty women have: if they speak up, they risk professional repercussions--either intentional or not.

I'm about to fall into that trap of white middle class dude talking about sexism. Also, the below does not necessarily apply to Moyes. One thing I've consistently heard women say is, "when it's sexism, you know it." That's not to say what happened here is sexism, but I thought of that when reading the author's account in the Indy article. And the problem is, I imagine, that women want to advance in journalism and in the game, and to be treated equally (which also means not being threatened because of their gender), have to ask themselves do they laugh along, or not say anything, or pretend things didn't happen because they know that not doing those things could seriously impact their career? The reporter here laughs along even though what Moyes says isn't particularly funny (which is not necessarily a sign of sexism unto itself, and bad jokes aren't a crime, because if they were I'd be in the type of Maximum security facility that does not let you see sunlight).

I know this is all a bit nebulous. What I'm trying to get at is that sexism still very much exists in the game, and just how to handle, let alone the acts themselves, must be a huge difficulty for women.

The only person who needs a slap is Katrien.

If it hadn't been filmed nothing would have come of it. Probably.

AddickFC81 said:

The only person who needs a slap is Katrien.

I'd probably draw the line at a pregnant lady.

DiscoCAFC said:

Moyes apologied and she accepted so everyone should move on!

No, the Guardian and the BBC must attack this man until he is a nervous wreck.

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Charged.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39709322

The Crazy world of football 2017.
He has apologised, she has accepted.
The FA decide to wade in.
Meanwhile they do Feck all about Orient.

iainment said:

HarryLime said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Charged.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39709322

The Crazy world of football 2017.
He has apologised, she has accepted.
The FA decide to wade in.
Meanwhile they do Feck all about Orient.

What can the FA do about Orient? Isn't it the EFL's responsibilty.

iainment said:

HarryLime said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Charged.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39709322

The Crazy world of football 2017.
He has apologised, she has accepted.
The FA decide to wade in.
Meanwhile they do Feck all about Orient.

What can the FA do about Orient? Isn't it the EFL's responsibilty.

The Football Association, also known simply as the FA, is the governing body of association football in England, and the Crown dependencies of Jersey, Guernsey, and the Isle of Man. Formed in 1863, it is the oldest football association in the world and is responsible for overseeing all aspects of the amateur and professional game in its territory.

You are probably right though, what can they do?

Lincsaddick said:

there used to be a get out clause for men using bad or offensive language at work, it was called 'industrial language' .. stresses and strains, the heat of the moment, foul language spoken in haste was often excused in demanding circumstances.
I suspect that PC niceties have done away with this 'get out clause' ..

If a woman wants to get involved in a media role in the macho world of professional MALE sports then she should really expect now and again to get chastised after rubbing a bad tempered player or manager up the wrong way, especially one who's club is doing badly or after a particularly horrendous performance on the field of play ..
Nothing would have been said, little fuss would have been made if Moyes had made the same comments to a male 'journalist' or commentator ..
If women truly want equality then the powers that be should resort to using another old maxim .. 'what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander'

Cool. Um, that's not a thing anymore I hope. Hopefully now if you say something sexist/racist/homophobic, it's not okay. Don't care how stressed you are. But by all means, says "fuck." I do it professionally all the time. And you know who aren't offended? Women!

Covered End said:

Lincsaddick said:

there used to be a get out clause for men using bad or offensive language at work, it was called 'industrial language' .. stresses and strains, the heat of the moment, foul language spoken in haste was often excused in demanding circumstances.
I suspect that PC niceties have done away with this 'get out clause' ..

If a woman wants to get involved in a media role in the macho world of professional MALE sports then she should really expect now and again to get chastised after rubbing a bad tempered player or manager up the wrong way, especially one who's club is doing badly or after a particularly horrendous performance on the field of play ..
Nothing would have been said, little fuss would have been made if Moyes had made the same comments to a male 'journalist' or commentator ..
If women truly want equality then the powers that be should resort to using another old maxim .. 'what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander'

I disagree. If the FA feel he should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute. Then I think it made little difference whether he "threatened" to slap a man or a woman.

we will have to disagree on this .. my whole point is that IF Moyes had made the remark to a man, the disrepute charge would probably not have been brought in the first place, it would be regarded as 'banter' albeit not of the pleasant variety and would have been waved off as 'man talk' ..
the fact that he made the remark to a woman seems to have caused outrage to some of those of a fragile sensibility .. how dare a man say such horrible things to a 'young lady' .. and the FA were feeble enough to fall for it .. IF Moyes is banned or fined, THAT to my mind would bring the game into disrepute

Resigned.

Powell would do there.

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