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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,890
    The old terrace went back further, I assume the club sold off the land at the back in the 70s, so that the block of flats could be built?
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,733
    killerandflash said:

    The old terrace went back further, I assume the club sold off the land at the back in the 70s, so that the block of flats could be built?

    yeah I think that was the case.
  • IT_Andy
    IT_Andy Posts: 477
    Maybe there are some safety issues with the Jimmy Seed stand but I can't believe it's in a worse state than say, Southend's ground.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,733
    wouldn't surprise me if during the summer KM, Tony and co have a go at the stand with sledgehammers
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,105
    killerandflash said:

    The old terrace went back further, I assume the club sold off the land at the back in the 70s, so that the block of flats could be built?

    That's what I thought. Seems bigger in these photos.

    imageimage
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    IT_Andy said:

    Maybe there are some safety issues with the Jimmy Seed stand but I can't believe it's in a worse state than say, Southend's ground.

    Anyone who has been in the away end at Fratton Park will tell you the Jimmy Seed stand is a haven of safety! In fact I'd go as far as say The JS Stand is luxury in comparison.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,747
    Friend Or Defoe said:

    killerandflash said:

    The old terrace went back further, I assume the club sold off the land at the back in the 70s, so that the block of flats could be built?

    That's what I thought. Seems bigger in these photos.

    imageimage
    Is that just before JJ cheekily poured some more water onto the pitch?
  • Duncan270566
    Duncan270566 Posts: 402
    Our away end is a palace compared to Gillingham!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,890
    This photo shows how far back the old terrace went, in comparison to the Covered End
    image
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    Just out of interest I looked at the league tables for the last few seasons. Even with Katrien's extra 12 points it would have made very little difference. We wouldn't have been relegated last season and we would have made the play-offs in 12/13 (in 3rd, just off the automatic spots). That's how average we've been, with the exception of the 11/12 season of course.

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  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,105
    killerandflash said:

    This photo shows how far back the old terrace went, in comparison to the Covered End
    image

    Cheers. Strange that was never the traditional home end because of a lack of a roof (or before segregation?) Looks like it could have given the Kop and others a run for its money!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,890
    Duncan270566 said:

    Our away end is a palace compared to Gillingham!

    Please don't slur the great name of Jimmy Seed with anything to do with p*lace :wink:
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Is it a coincidence that this Facebook entry was posted only days after CARD's announcement of a mega protest on Sunday ?

    Both this, and a surreal wind up in "another place" were surely aimed at confusing an element of our fanbase even more than they are already.

    Desperation, IMHO.
  • Grumpy
    Grumpy Posts: 117
    The saddest thing for me is that, yes, they will be here next season but I won't, after 60 plus years. I suspect the motives of this person feeding crap to us from Katrien. Put your brain into gear and think about asking a young lawyer with zero knowledge about either football or running a business, to run our Club. If you can approve of it, ask your Nurse to up your medicine.
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,843
    I think they sold off the top of the south terrace some time in the 60's.

    I should think that the only problem the trees could cause is if the roots are growing under the stand and causing the ground to shift, but like others I wonder if this is a ruse to start building houses there.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I may be wrong but I believe Tim Cross used to work for the club didn't he? Ground staff or something.

    I've seen him spouting off on Facebook so he is most definitely not an "apologist".
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    Friend Or Defoe said:

    killerandflash said:

    This photo shows how far back the old terrace went, in comparison to the Covered End
    image

    Cheers. Strange that was never the traditional home end because of a lack of a roof (or before segregation?) Looks like it could have given the Kop and others a run for its money!
    Started supporting in 66/67 and sure that the South terrace was as big as the East terrace.

  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    I mean as high as the East terrace.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    The club sold one and half acres of land to the council during the 1967/68 season for £34,500. Sam Bartram Close and Valiant House were built on it, with the latter opening in late 1975. It was widely assumed, possibly unfairly, that the club's motive for covering the terrace (it wasn't seated initially) was to obscure the view from the new flats.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Swisdom said:

    I may be wrong but I believe Tim Cross used to work for the club didn't he? Ground staff or something.

    I've seen him spouting off on Facebook so he is most definitely not an "apologist".

    He did, and he is not

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,038
    Airman Brown said:

    The club sold one and half acres of land to the council during the 1967/68 season for £34,500. Sam Bartram Close and Valiant House were built on it, with the latter opening in late 1975. It was widely assumed, possibly unfairly, that the club's motive for covering the terrace (it wasn't seated initially) was to obscure the view from the new flats.

    Sounds unfair to me. How much would it cost to put a roof up compared to revenue saved from those who would otherwise watch from a towerblock?
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    I think the fans/supporters club funded a big part of the roof.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    Stig said:

    Airman Brown said:

    The club sold one and half acres of land to the council during the 1967/68 season for £34,500. Sam Bartram Close and Valiant House were built on it, with the latter opening in late 1975. It was widely assumed, possibly unfairly, that the club's motive for covering the terrace (it wasn't seated initially) was to obscure the view from the new flats.

    Sounds unfair to me. How much would it cost to put a roof up compared to revenue saved from those who would otherwise watch from a towerblock?
    I think you've misunderstood, mate.

    By obscuring the view from the new flats, it ensured that they held their market value. Having a clear view of the pitch would probably knock a hefty percentage off the asking price of any local property.. ;)
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    iaitch said:

    I think the fans/supporters club funded a big part of the roof.

    Perhaps the Trust can offer to cover the costs of redeveloping the end as Roland has incurred huge loses already pumping money onto the pitch, training ground, squad and manager contracts.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,890
    edited April 2017
    Airman Brown said:

    The club sold one and half acres of land to the council during the 1967/68 season for £34,500. Sam Bartram Close and Valiant House were built on it, with the latter opening in late 1975. It was widely assumed, possibly unfairly, that the club's motive for covering the terrace (it wasn't seated initially) was to obscure the view from the new flats.

    Less than we got for Billy Bonds

    I wonder how much London land has increased in price, in comparison to footballers. I suspect both have gone up massively when compared to RPI!
  • Mametz
    Mametz Posts: 1,256
    At the top of that terracing there was a significant patch of flat rough ground which contained a large maze type of toilet block. It was constructed out large rough concrete slabs with ash to urinate on. There was an ingenious flushing and cleaning mechanism called " When it rains".
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,284
    AddicksAddict said:

    Redrobo said:

    Jon_CAFC_ said:

    vff said:

    How is the Jimmy Seed stand becoming unsafe exactly? If it was in any way an unsafe or unsound structure then no away supporters would be allowed in. It sounds like a pretext to move away supporters, so that they can sell / redevelop part of the ground for housing. Duchatelet wants his money back & will turn Charlton into the new Orient to do so. Their plan has got to be stopped.

    I read somewhere recently that the council have concerns and ask repeatedly in safety conversations about the clubs plans to address the asbestos in the roof, iirc the club are taking a wait and see approach but concerns were noted about damage being caused by trees in the vicinity.

    Sounds plausible to me that the closing of blocks in east west followed by moving of away fans is a softening up of then closing jimmy seed stand on safety grounds/cost to fix before some form of redevelopment
    The best way to deal with asbestos is to leave well alone.
    As long as it's intact and not likely to get disturbed.
    You mean like by a Nicky Bailey penalty?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    Stig said:

    Airman Brown said:

    The club sold one and half acres of land to the council during the 1967/68 season for £34,500. Sam Bartram Close and Valiant House were built on it, with the latter opening in late 1975. It was widely assumed, possibly unfairly, that the club's motive for covering the terrace (it wasn't seated initially) was to obscure the view from the new flats.

    Sounds unfair to me. How much would it cost to put a roof up compared to revenue saved from those who would otherwise watch from a towerblock?
    It was more of a cynical comment on the way the club operated than a serious argument. A much worse transaction, in my opinion, was the sale of the land now occupied by houses on Valley Grove in (about) 1994 - understandable at the time, but the club could have recovered what it made many times over from parking charges in the Premier League, and built an easier access for coaches, etc.
  • PeakieRocket
    PeakieRocket Posts: 2,419
    So we're going to buy the best players from league one and then only have ambitions of reaching the playoffs with that squad?
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,670
    You got a great view from the tower block before the JS was put up. Spent about two season watching free from there.

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