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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited January 2017
    Hartleypete said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..
    I said looked, read before comment, typical rubbish statement.
    So you make a statement saying he looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, but you didn't mean it? I am confused.
    se9addick said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..

    I think in this case it's a fair comment, Ajose really didn't seem committed and if you aren't banging then in (which he wasn't) then you better be contributing something else to the side.
    His role in the side is meant to be an off the shoulder striker, who feeds off lows ball behind the centre backs that he can run onto, or via quick low crosses that he can poach a goal from. What else is he meant to contribute? If he started dropping deep looking for the ball, or running the wide channels all the time he would not be playing to the tactics the manager had set up, is not playing to his strengths, and conversely could effect our chances of breaking down a team even more.

    I guess most fans would rather he ran around like a headless chicken, then 'just walked back onside' though...
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Ajose puts me in mind of a mascot left out on the pitch after kick off!

    I believe we can and should do better but, that said, his calmly taken penalty saved a point at Gillingham and he has picked up a few other goals along the way too so not completely bad.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    so were getting an arsenal loanee in and selling ajose back to swindon?
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    heard Slade call Ajose a lazy so and so during a game. Think his fitness is a problem as well "fit" with the other players at the club.
  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,553
    So a very well connected @Redhenry thinks that 2 loans will come in. I assume they will be the Arsenal kids.

    This must surely mean that 2 loans go out? Ulvestad and Botaka?
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..
    I said looked, read before comment, typical rubbish statement.
    So you make a statement saying he looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, but you didn't mean it? I am confused.
    se9addick said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..

    I think in this case it's a fair comment, Ajose really didn't seem committed and if you aren't banging then in (which he wasn't) then you better be contributing something else to the side.
    His role in the side is meant to be an off the shoulder striker, who feeds off lows ball behind the centre backs that he can run onto, or via quick low crosses that he can poach a goal from. What else is he meant to contribute? If he started dropping deep looking for the ball, or running the wide channels all the time he would not be playing to the tactics the manager had set up, is not playing to his strengths, and conversely could effect our chances of breaking down a team even more.

    I guess most fans would rather he ran around like a headless chicken, then 'just walked back onside' though...
    Your obviously easy confused. What I said was what I meant only he can say if he was bothered or not.

    We are going to have to disagree, in modern football everybody has to contribute. Southend was the final nail in his coffin, yes played slightly out of his preferred position but he was hopeless and looked like he had nothing to contribute.

    Game changed when he was subbed.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    JamesSeed said:

    dickplumb said:

    If Bradford or any other Club meets Charlton's asking price Ajose will be gone.

    I'm wondering if KR is poised to buy, but is being told he can't unless he unloads one or two?
    He will unload one or two but then strangely there will not be time to buy any replacements - seen it all before I'm afraid.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..
    I said looked, read before comment, typical rubbish statement.
    So you make a statement saying he looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, but you didn't mean it? I am confused.
    se9addick said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..

    I think in this case it's a fair comment, Ajose really didn't seem committed and if you aren't banging then in (which he wasn't) then you better be contributing something else to the side.
    His role in the side is meant to be an off the shoulder striker, who feeds off lows ball behind the centre backs that he can run onto, or via quick low crosses that he can poach a goal from. What else is he meant to contribute? If he started dropping deep looking for the ball, or running the wide channels all the time he would not be playing to the tactics the manager had set up, is not playing to his strengths, and conversely could effect our chances of breaking down a team even more.

    I guess most fans would rather he ran around like a headless chicken, then 'just walked back onside' though...
    Just to be clear - you think that Ajose was bringing a positive contribution to the team in his assigned role ? I'm not talking about charging up and down the pitch throwing tackles in, because you are correct that wasn't his job, but are you sure he was doing what he was asked to do ?

    I think he wanted to be a central striker, failed to live up to his billing, got shunted out wide and failed to impress there too - hence we're trying to ditch him.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    More dosh for Roland, talk of a sell-on fee for Carl Jenkinson if he moves
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    AFKABartram said:

    More dosh for Roland, talk of a sell-on fee for Carl Jenkinson if he moves

    Cawley said there was a sell on fee but not what %

    I'll stick my neck out and say undisclosed.

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  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    Adebayor's gone to Istanbul Basaksehir so we can cross him off the list.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    dickplumb said:

    Anise?

    Bless you.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    Henry Irving said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Henry Irving said:

    soapy_jones said:

    So basically it will be Diddly Squat and F All in then?

    Patience as our manager would say.

    Slade and Meire will do what is best for the club
    I respect your perseverance with the Slade joke. Not really been that funny but you're still going with it.
    209 lols say you're wrong : -)
    But how many people wanted to click the 'Groan' button, only to find there isn't one?
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    Henry Irving said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Henry Irving said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Henry Irving said:

    soapy_jones said:

    So basically it will be Diddly Squat and F All in then?

    Patience as our manager would say.

    Slade and Meire will do what is best for the club
    I respect your perseverance with the Slade joke. Not really been that funny but you're still going with it.
    209 lols say you're wrong : -)
    Jim Davidson says you're more wrong.
    Maybe, like you, he doesn't get irony :wink:
    I get irony: nickel, like iron, is magnetic but manganese isn't, so nickel is more irony than manganese.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    I've just skipped 40 pages of this thread, have I missed anything?
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited January 2017
    se9addick said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..
    I said looked, read before comment, typical rubbish statement.
    So you make a statement saying he looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, but you didn't mean it? I am confused.
    se9addick said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    Hartleypete said:

    Ajose has looked out of his depth and not particularly bothered, let him go.

    Typical rubbish modern day football fan statement. Player does not perform well at club, so must be because he was not particularly bothered and not because of any other reason (formations, players around him, not enough time to for the team to gel).

    If only Ajose showed 'passion' he would be banging in a goal a game..

    I think in this case it's a fair comment, Ajose really didn't seem committed and if you aren't banging then in (which he wasn't) then you better be contributing something else to the side.
    His role in the side is meant to be an off the shoulder striker, who feeds off lows ball behind the centre backs that he can run onto, or via quick low crosses that he can poach a goal from. What else is he meant to contribute? If he started dropping deep looking for the ball, or running the wide channels all the time he would not be playing to the tactics the manager had set up, is not playing to his strengths, and conversely could effect our chances of breaking down a team even more.

    I guess most fans would rather he ran around like a headless chicken, then 'just walked back onside' though...
    Just to be clear - you think that Ajose was bringing a positive contribution to the team in his assigned role ? I'm not talking about charging up and down the pitch throwing tackles in, because you are correct that wasn't his job, but are you sure he was doing what he was asked to do ?

    I think he wanted to be a central striker, failed to live up to his billing, got shunted out wide and failed to impress there too - hence we're trying to ditch him.
    I am not saying he was bringing a positive contribution to the team, indeed, he wouldn't be in my current first 11. The point I am arguing is that the reason it has not worked out for him at Carlton is because of other mitigating factors - and not because he was not bothered, or thought he was 'billy big bollox'.

    Fan negativity towards players, and the team as a whole, is not just isolated to Ajose of course. It really bugs me me that all to often fans are quick to bemoan a player for not being passionate, or argue that the team have been shit, when simply they have just been outplayed, or are just not good enough.
  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,553
    Stig said:

    I've just skipped 40 pages of this thread, have I missed anything?

    Ajose going back to Swindon. We're signing Yakubu on loan. Possibly the Arsenal kid on loan.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    Stig said:

    I've just skipped 40 pages of this thread, have I missed anything?

    Rumours that Holmes and Pearce going on loan to Bromley
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Bolderhumphreyreid said:

    Stig said:

    I've just skipped 40 pages of this thread, have I missed anything?

    Ajose going back to Swindon. We're signing Yakubu on loan. Possibly the Arsenal kid on loan.
    Yakubu - first Charlton player to have a freedom pass?
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    Anthony Barness seen on Charlton Park Lane by the pitches. Not sure what that means.
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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Fuck this shit - when is KM getting appointed to the FA?
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Teixeira has joined Forest
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Dizzle said:

    Teixeira has joined Forest

    very good
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Henry Irving said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Henry Irving said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Henry Irving said:

    soapy_jones said:

    So basically it will be Diddly Squat and F All in then?

    Patience as our manager would say.

    Slade and Meire will do what is best for the club
    I respect your perseverance with the Slade joke. Not really been that funny but you're still going with it.
    209 lols say you're wrong : -)
    Jim Davidson says you're more wrong.
    Maybe, like you, he doesn't get irony :wink:
    Isn't Irony one of the countries on Donald Trump's banned list?
  • tgarrat1
    tgarrat1 Posts: 266
    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-midfielder-jordan-williams-move-12533446

    Any ideas on what hes like
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063
    He's cheap so ideal for Charlton
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    edited January 2017
    Jordan Williams: Sounds about the par for us. Returned after serious injury - not played a huge amount. Will probably be inexpensive and will be a last-minute replacement for Tex.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,265
    Look like a signing instead of Bielik from Arsenal, can play holding midfield and central defence
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,229
    Henry Irving said:

    Stig said:

    I've just skipped 40 pages of this thread, have I missed anything?

    Rumours that Holmes and Pearce going on loan to Bromley
    Incorrect, they are going shopping in Bromley.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    I'm not knocking these players and long term they may be decent acquisitions BUT we will not get into the play off's relying on kids who have played no league games, or next to no league games, and having a fair few number in the squad too. It will take them a while to adapt to League One football and by the nature of it they will be inconsistent.
    Not what you need if you are serious about a promotion charge and our transfer dealings suggest we are not.

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