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January (2017) Transfer (Rumours) Thread - (Deadline Dayfrom page 67)

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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    Hoping the fact that he looks to be keeping the fox and lookman and not properly reinvesting any of it is a sign he's about to jump ship
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    J BLOCK said:

    Hoping the fact that he looks to be keeping the fox and lookman and not properly reinvesting any of it is a sign he's about to jump ship

    I think the opposite, he thinks he can sell and get in cheaper and kr will get us up, he then will repeat with konza and aribo
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    roseandcrown said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Hoping the fact that he looks to be keeping the fox and lookman and not properly reinvesting any of it is a sign he's about to jump ship

    I think the opposite, he thinks he can sell and get in cheaper and kr will get us up, he then will repeat with konza and aribo
    Yep this.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    We're NOT going up! Get a grip! Robinson was sacked this season at MK Dons with them 19th! We're stuck in a mid table rut!
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    OhEddieYouds said:

    Imagine this story has been given to the media by mk dons as they tout Reeves about in a bid to seek an alternative buyer to Charlton.

    Hopefully KR has a good back up as I worry he will also follow carruthers by ending up elsewhere in the last week of the window.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4092592/Ben-Reeves-MK-Dons-man-swap-League-One-Premier-League.html

    I can't see that getting the juices going at Premiership clubs- one footed and slow.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,170
    Lots of interesting comments on here but RUMOURS!?
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,823
    roseandcrown said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Hoping the fact that he looks to be keeping the fox and lookman and not properly reinvesting any of it is a sign he's about to jump ship

    I think the opposite, he thinks he can sell and get in cheaper and kr will get us up, he then will repeat with konza and aribo
    Neither of them are in the Gomez/Lookman league money wise, so even if he stays and sells them next year he will not recoup his losses for the season. Better he go now - the best chance he has of not losing more than 1.5% of his fortune.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    sam3110 said:

    AddicksAddict said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    SDAddick said:

    Athletico Charlton said:

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/14908/charlton-boss-sheffield-united-got-cheaper-deal-got-quoted-mk-midfielder/

    Didn't see this elsewhere. Is it just me or since this lot came in as owners have we missed out on more players than usual or do they just like to publicise it More? (This is despite the 200 odd players that have passed through our doors in the 3 years!)

    I'd be skeptical of this, I don't know that KR knows any of that for a fact, or if he is speaking literally or metaphorically about players going to Charlton costing him more.

    Who was it in the summer that we missed out on despite offering more? Also, I think we offered less to Novak and Ajose, or maybe it was that Champo clubs were after them and we got them.

    Add to that the fact that, as we've talked about a lot with the Lookman deal, transfers can come down a lot to how deals are structured, and I wouldn't necessarily put too much weight into this kind of stuff. Same with us bidding low for Moncur in the summer and now Dempsey, I think reported fees can be misleading.
    I'm not. The biggest difference between us and Sheffield United? They hadn't (or were just about to) sell one of their players for £11 million.

    Of course they were going to ask for more. And I don't blame them.
    And this régime try to keep incoming transfer fees undisclosed, as the previous one did. Now, I don't trust this lot as far as I could kick them, but I can see the sense in this. On the other hand, Katie's "We bid £millions for so-and-so but couldn't get the deal over the line" is just so much hot air.
    But it's not just this regime, it's every club in every division in every country, every one tries to keep transfer fees undisclosed.
    That's not entirely true, but even if it was the people they are keeping them secret from are the fans, not the people involved in the business of football. It has no effect on the latter at all, because they know anyway.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792
    cafc-west said:

    Lots of interesting comments on here but RUMOURS!?

    How about "cafc-west is a transexual assassin"?
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,170
    Pedro45 said:

    roseandcrown said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Hoping the fact that he looks to be keeping the fox and lookman and not properly reinvesting any of it is a sign he's about to jump ship

    I think the opposite, he thinks he can sell and get in cheaper and kr will get us up, he then will repeat with konza and aribo
    Neither of them are in the Gomez/Lookman league money wise, so even if he stays and sells them next year he will not recoup his losses for the season. Better he go now - the best chance he has of not losing more than 1.5% of his fortune.
    Aribo and Konsa's values will continue to rise with experience and games. Their values will be greater if we are in the Championship and RD knows that. He is a businessman with no emotional buy-in to the club (as we are all well aware). But IMO he will not recoup much of his purchase price and/or debt owed to him in League One. Our best hope is promotion and then he will consider selling. All conjecture.
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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792
    edited January 2017
    Pedro45 said:

    roseandcrown said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Hoping the fact that he looks to be keeping the fox and lookman and not properly reinvesting any of it is a sign he's about to jump ship

    I think the opposite, he thinks he can sell and get in cheaper and kr will get us up, he then will repeat with konza and aribo
    Neither of them are in the Gomez/Lookman league money wise, so even if he stays and sells them next year he will not recoup his losses for the season. Better he go now - the best chance he has of not losing more than 1.5% of his fortune.
    He had one good round of flogging off Standard's players and pocketed €20m, then buggered off. So far, he's made nothing out of Charlton, except possibly the interest on his loans and that assumes he can get his loans repaid. As you say, Konsa and Aribo are not going to bring in the same sort of money as Gomez and Lookman, so where's his payday coming from?
  • SuperCliveMendonca
    SuperCliveMendonca Posts: 912
    AddicksAddict said:

    cafc-west said:

    Lots of interesting comments on here but RUMOURS!?

    How about "cafc-west is a transexual assassin"?
    Source?
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,170
    SuperCliveMendonca said:

    AddicksAddict said:

    cafc-west said:

    Lots of interesting comments on here but RUMOURS!?

    How about "cafc-west is a transexual assassin"?
    Source?
    Charlton related rumours not mere (incorrect) conjecture...!
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792
    cafc-west said:

    SuperCliveMendonca said:

    AddicksAddict said:

    cafc-west said:

    Lots of interesting comments on here but RUMOURS!?

    How about "cafc-west is a transsexual assassin"?
    Source?
    Charlton related rumours not mere (incorrect) conjecture...!
    So, you thought you needed to deny it. Does that move it up from mere conjecture to a rumour? I think it's time to change my name and move to a secure location.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    Airman Brown said:

    sam3110 said:

    AddicksAddict said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    SDAddick said:

    Athletico Charlton said:

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/14908/charlton-boss-sheffield-united-got-cheaper-deal-got-quoted-mk-midfielder/

    Didn't see this elsewhere. Is it just me or since this lot came in as owners have we missed out on more players than usual or do they just like to publicise it More? (This is despite the 200 odd players that have passed through our doors in the 3 years!)

    I'd be skeptical of this, I don't know that KR knows any of that for a fact, or if he is speaking literally or metaphorically about players going to Charlton costing him more.

    Who was it in the summer that we missed out on despite offering more? Also, I think we offered less to Novak and Ajose, or maybe it was that Champo clubs were after them and we got them.

    Add to that the fact that, as we've talked about a lot with the Lookman deal, transfers can come down a lot to how deals are structured, and I wouldn't necessarily put too much weight into this kind of stuff. Same with us bidding low for Moncur in the summer and now Dempsey, I think reported fees can be misleading.
    I'm not. The biggest difference between us and Sheffield United? They hadn't (or were just about to) sell one of their players for £11 million.

    Of course they were going to ask for more. And I don't blame them.
    And this régime try to keep incoming transfer fees undisclosed, as the previous one did. Now, I don't trust this lot as far as I could kick them, but I can see the sense in this. On the other hand, Katie's "We bid £millions for so-and-so but couldn't get the deal over the line" is just so much hot air.
    But it's not just this regime, it's every club in every division in every country, every one tries to keep transfer fees undisclosed.
    That's not entirely true, but even if it was the people they are keeping them secret from are the fans, not the people involved in the business of football. It has no effect on the latter at all, because they know anyway.
    Well going through the BBC transfer list and there's only half a dozen transfers with a fee reported next to them, 2 say a reported number and one of the others is 11m for Lookman, despite the fact both us and Everton announced it as undisclosed.

    What I'm getting at is it's not something that can be used to berate the regime with, there's plenty of other shit that sticks, the whole undisclosed thing is just a quirk of the modern game
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    sam3110 said:

    Airman Brown said:

    sam3110 said:

    AddicksAddict said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    SDAddick said:

    Athletico Charlton said:

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/14908/charlton-boss-sheffield-united-got-cheaper-deal-got-quoted-mk-midfielder/

    Didn't see this elsewhere. Is it just me or since this lot came in as owners have we missed out on more players than usual or do they just like to publicise it More? (This is despite the 200 odd players that have passed through our doors in the 3 years!)

    I'd be skeptical of this, I don't know that KR knows any of that for a fact, or if he is speaking literally or metaphorically about players going to Charlton costing him more.

    Who was it in the summer that we missed out on despite offering more? Also, I think we offered less to Novak and Ajose, or maybe it was that Champo clubs were after them and we got them.

    Add to that the fact that, as we've talked about a lot with the Lookman deal, transfers can come down a lot to how deals are structured, and I wouldn't necessarily put too much weight into this kind of stuff. Same with us bidding low for Moncur in the summer and now Dempsey, I think reported fees can be misleading.
    I'm not. The biggest difference between us and Sheffield United? They hadn't (or were just about to) sell one of their players for £11 million.

    Of course they were going to ask for more. And I don't blame them.
    And this régime try to keep incoming transfer fees undisclosed, as the previous one did. Now, I don't trust this lot as far as I could kick them, but I can see the sense in this. On the other hand, Katie's "We bid £millions for so-and-so but couldn't get the deal over the line" is just so much hot air.
    But it's not just this regime, it's every club in every division in every country, every one tries to keep transfer fees undisclosed.
    That's not entirely true, but even if it was the people they are keeping them secret from are the fans, not the people involved in the business of football. It has no effect on the latter at all, because they know anyway.
    Well going through the BBC transfer list and there's only half a dozen transfers with a fee reported next to them, 2 say a reported number and one of the others is 11m for Lookman, despite the fact both us and Everton announced it as undisclosed.

    What I'm getting at is it's not something that can be used to berate the regime with, there's plenty of other shit that sticks, the whole undisclosed thing is just a quirk of the modern game
    Agreed, but the regime are still a bunch of shithouses.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Pedro45 said:

    roseandcrown said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Hoping the fact that he looks to be keeping the fox and lookman and not properly reinvesting any of it is a sign he's about to jump ship

    I think the opposite, he thinks he can sell and get in cheaper and kr will get us up, he then will repeat with konza and aribo
    Neither of them are in the Gomez/Lookman league money wise, so even if he stays and sells them next year he will not recoup his losses for the season. Better he go now - the best chance he has of not losing more than 1.5% of his fortune.
    If we don't go up this season I think he'll put the club up for sale in the summer and take a hit. What I'm very confident of next season is absolutely zero/minimal incomings if we're still in league one
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,622
    I really don't think we can second guess Duchatelet.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225

    New players' shirts numbers according to Dr Kish - Page 2, Watt 7, Forster-Caskey 19, DeSilva 36@KettsDrKish #cafc @CAFCofficial

    — CharltonAthMuseum (@CHATHMuseum) January 11, 2017
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Henry Irving said:

    New players' shirts numbers according to Dr Kish - Page 2, Watt 7, Forster-Caskey 19, DeSilva 36@KettsDrKish #cafc @CAFCofficial

    — CharltonAthMuseum (@CHATHMuseum) January 11, 2017

    Interesting, would've thought Byrne would've been either 2 or 7. Which means he must be 21 as that seems the only lower number that's left.

    Watt as number 7 will look odd too. Shame Muldoon has 23 and Aribo 32, but at least this indicates he will be playing as and when he's fit.
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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    A left back wearing no. 2 is all wrong.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    As if Tony Watt will still be here by February.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Who is number 3 again? Kashi? Lol
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    Exiled_Addick said:

    A left back wearing no. 2 is all wrong.

    Why hasn't Solly ever taken the number 2 shirt? Does he just prefer his current number?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited January 2017
    Dizzle said:

    Who is number 3 again? Kashi? Lol

    Chicksen.

    @Lincsaddick I told you JFC would take 19!!!!!! GET IN THERE!!!!!!!

    I sort of suspect that no. 7 shirt will go to Reeves at the end of the month but we'll see. A fit and firing Tony Watt would be great but is in no way guaranteed.

    Also, should tag @lancashire lad as he's been dying to know, just as I have as I'd like to update my FIFA team.

    Side note: how annoying is it that Aribo still isn't in FIFA? Ridiculous.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    killerandflash said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    A left back wearing no. 2 is all wrong.

    Why hasn't Solly ever taken the number 2 shirt? Does he just prefer his current number?
    Dunno, I guess some players just have favourite numbers. I'm old fashioned, but I still like to see the numbers 1 to 11 go to players who play in the positions traditionally assigned to that number.

    Still, at least we don't have a centre back wearing no. 1 like that time we handed out numbers in alphabetical order.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    I'd have thought Byrne takes 2 & JFC takes 7.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Callumcafc said:

    I'd have thought Byrne takes 2 & JFC takes 7.

    KR talked about Byrne being a winger or number 10 rather than a right back.
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,868
    Chris Eagles has signed for Port Vale, free transfer.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Charlton_Stu said:

    Chris Eagles has signed for Port Vale, free transfer.

    So not a rumour then

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