Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.

Another Shooting In America?

1…78101213…81

Comments

  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,715
    edited June 2016
    limeygent said:

    Protection against those who would do me harm, obviously, and is my right.

    and here lies the problem when it comes to changing the gun law. even though it seems mad but these shootings actually give more weight to the argument of keeping the guns for protection against these people who shoot innocent people.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    limeygent said:

    It's a pity there was nobody close by with a gun that could have stopped this attack sooner.

    There was.

    There was an armed policeman in duty according to the BBC report who exchanged fire with the killer.

    50 people still died.

    Dilemma for SOME of the fundamentalist Christians in US if it turns out it was an homophobic attack.
  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    limeygent said:

    It's a pity there was nobody close by with a gun that could have stopped this attack sooner.

    The same argument that says teachers should have guns to prevent school shootings?
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    WSS said:

    Addickted said:

    To be fair WSS, I also have weapons legally held in the UK.

    Though at my age, I'd be lucky to fire four rounds in a minute.

    For different reasons I presume though?

    You're not clinging on to an outdated "right" that was written centuries ago for very different purposes.
    God no.

    Fecking pigeons round here know not to shit on my motor though.

  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    limeygent said:

    Protection against those who would do me harm, obviously, and is my right.

    Perhaps. But for all the times people say that they do/should carry guns for protection, how many times have we EVER heard of some nutter on a rampage being stopped by Joe Q. Public with a gun he happened to be carrying? How many times have law-abiding, gun-carrying citizens actually stopped these lunatics, also gun-carrying? Can't think of any.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    Maybe because it's so alien to us in the UK is why we find the whole "right to bear arms" thing insane.

    There is absolutely no reason for any civilian to own a firearm just because they can. Yes criminals (or would be criminals) will always get guns if they wanted to but why make it easier?
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    There is a slight difference between 'self defence' and a weapon that can fire five hundred rounds in a minute though.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    limeygent said:

    It's a pity there was nobody close by with a gun that could have stopped this attack sooner.

    image
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,737
    limeygent said:

    It's a pity there was nobody close by with a gun that could have stopped this attack sooner.

    Thought about giving that a lol but it's a long way from being funny.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    .
  • Sponsored links:



  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    Bedsaddick said:

    limeygent said:

    It's a pity there was nobody close by with a gun that could have stopped this attack sooner.

    Thought about giving that a lol but it's a long way from being funny.
    I gave it a LOL. Because there isn't a quick way of posting 'for fuck's sake'
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    Aren't there something like 6 billion guns in circulation in the US? It's all too late.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    limeygent said:

    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.

    So you agree there is no need for the public to be able to buy and own assault rifles?
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    SELR_addicks said:

    limeygent said:

    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.

    So you agree there is no need for the public to be able to buy and own assault rifles?
    I have no need for one myself.
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    Obama to address the nation at 6.30 our time......again. Hope, in this election year, he really hammers congress and the NRA for their resistance to sensible gun laws throughout his Presidency.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    .
    limeygent said:

    It's a pity there was nobody close by with a gun that could have stopped this attack sooner.

    image
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    limeygent said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    limeygent said:

    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.

    So you agree there is no need for the public to be able to buy and own assault rifles?
    I have no need for one myself.
    That wasn't the question as you know.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    limeygent said:

    It's a pity there was nobody close by with a gun that could have stopped this attack sooner.

    image
  • Sponsored links:



  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Are we talking about the country where nearly everyone can run round with a gun but in some places you can't even get into a bar let alone by a beer without identification.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    limeygent said:

    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.

    No, you're right. No matter how many innocents get slaughtered it will never change the mind of the gun-toting yeehah good old gun lobby boys doing Gods work in the sainted US of A.

    Makes you weep.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    Obama to address the nation at 6.30 our time......again. Hope, in this election year, he really hammers congress and the NRA for their resistance to sensible gun laws throughout his Presidency.

    I wouldn't hold my breath.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    limeygent said:

    Red_in_SE8 said:

    Obama to address the nation at 6.30 our time......again. Hope, in this election year, he really hammers congress and the NRA for their resistance to sensible gun laws throughout his Presidency.

    I wouldn't hold my breath.
    He has nothing to lose by telling it how it is.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Henry Irving said:

    limeygent said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    limeygent said:

    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.

    So you agree there is no need for the public to be able to buy and own assault rifles?
    I have no need for one myself.
    That wasn't the question as you know.
    I see no need for civilians to own these weapons, but I know people who have them. I wouldn't deny these people the right to own them because I don't see them (the people) as dangerous.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    The sooner they all shoot each other the better. Trump will sort it all out.
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,575
    Henry Irving said:

    limeygent said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    limeygent said:

    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.

    So you agree there is no need for the public to be able to buy and own assault rifles?
    I have no need for one myself.
    That wasn't the question as you know.
    But that is a typical answer from those who believe that any restrictions are a threat to their gun ownership.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Personally I wouldn't own an assault rifle anyway. 500 rounds per minute. I mean what's the point. Get an Uzi at 1700 rounds per minute is the way to protect yourself and your loved ones.

  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    limeygent said:

    Henry Irving said:

    limeygent said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    limeygent said:

    No matter which side of this argument you are on, you will never be persuaded by the other. It's the same over here.
    I'm at an age now where I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. I keep a pump-action shot-gun in my house, and hope that any intruder would be persuaded to leave by the noise the gun makes when a shell is chambered. If not, I'm prepared to protect myself and my family.

    So you agree there is no need for the public to be able to buy and own assault rifles?
    I have no need for one myself.
    That wasn't the question as you know.
    I see no need for civilians to own these weapons, but I know people who have them. I wouldn't deny these people the right to own them because I don't see them (the people) as dangerous.
    But that's the thing with mental/ emotional health....it can deteriorate over a short space of time with devastating effects and possibly impercebtibly to those around them.

    I am sure there may well be a correlation of the stereotypical loner who's family may have concerns about their mental state before they've gone on a sickening rampage but I would bet there will be a good number whos friends and family will have had no idea what was going through their minds leading up to stuff like this.

    How many times do the parents of these perpetrators come across genuinely shocked and give the "Had no idea they were capable" line. By having access to automatic weapons whether legally or by proliferation in a nation where ownership of firearms is constitutional then it's a ticking time bomb for every disturbed individual who's had enough and decides to go out in their own twisted blaze of glory for their warped cause.

  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    edited June 2016
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Personally I wouldn't own an assault rifle anyway. 500 rounds per minute. I mean what's the point. Get an Uzi at 1700 rounds per minute is the way to protect yourself and your loved ones.

    Helpful comment.
This discussion has been closed.

Categories

“Marketplace”