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George Tucudean
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What is the situation with him? Will he return for next season? Can he? Or does he still have visa problems from his last loan.
The main question is, would you have him in our team next season?
I reckon he could actually do a job at that level at least. He showed bits of talent and there's a chance in League One it would be his level.
The main question is, would you have him in our team next season?
I reckon he could actually do a job at that level at least. He showed bits of talent and there's a chance in League One it would be his level.
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Still our player.
Solly said he would be back this year but he did say it with a smile on his face.
My guess is he will leave if anyone will take him.
So he'll be back for training at Sparrows Lane in July.13 -
Sure we could do worse than him in L115
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Peter Parsnip?Garrymanilow said:Sure we could do worse than him in L1
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He is absolute shit.20
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Think he showed talent in fits and spurts. Didn't have any consistency but certainly had more to his game than say Makienok.
He was a (very) poor man's Kermorgant in that his type of play was similar. He was tall and when he was playing he could play with the ball to his head. He was also good with his back to goal reviving the ball and laying off to others.. but he was best with the ball to his feet. His link up play (again when playing well) was pretty good and he was a good finisher (barring that Millwall miss).
In my view another who is a victim of this ludicrous setup. He showed talent at times but was brought in as our only tall striker, then when igor got injured he was our only striker full stop.
He was early 20s in a new league in a new country, he deserved more time to get used to the league. In an ideal world he would have had a more experienced player who could play the same role also in the squad (Kermit?) The he could develop and learn from them and develop, whilst playing cup games and as rotation/ cover for injury/loss of form.
Given time to adapt to the league and time to develop I am sure that we would have seen more of the good George and less of the bad. Consistency is all that was needed, I think the Derby and Cardiff performances were quality! Best performance from a tall/hold up striker since we list Kermorgant. There's not really been much competition, Tudgay or Mak!9 -
Reminded me a bit of Paul Hayes. Not got the physicality or agility of a Kermorgant, but had decent technique and could bring others into play. Could be a good foil for the right strike partner, like Hayes was with BWP, but not a potential talisman like Kermo was.
Personally think we binned him out too soon - it's received wisdom that foreign players need time to adapt to the English leagues and he showed enough to begin with to suggest he might eventually do okay. He's probably not the only one that might apply to and is part of a general trend at the club of wanting to bring in unknown potential but then not having the patience to let if adapt and potentially thrive.
He's probably no better than League 1/lower Championship standard (at best) but that's where we are and he should be better prepared for what the league will throw at him so I'd say he is worth a second chance as part of a deeper, more balanced squad. At some point we have to start to think a bit about building some stability and better the devil you know, this constant churn of players and managers is not helpful, even allowing for the fact that some have to leave because they simply aren't up to it.6 -
Awful player.6
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I still think he had "some" potential but needs the right coach. League one might suit him.
But I suspect we will release him0 -
He's not though, is he? Despite being thrown into a Mickey Mouse team with no English football experience and never given a proper run in the team he showed some glimpses of what he was capable of. His performances against Derby and Cardiff were absolutely superb and he won't be playing teams anywhere near as good in League One. He'll likely never be a consistently effective Championship striker but he's got to be given that chance to show it. People used to moan about how crap Paul Hayes was because he didn't shoot enough. Then when he lost his place to Yann people started moaning that we didn't play such good football without him and cried about his performances over at Wycombe on loan. No need to write him off, we'll hardly be swimming in talent in August.cafctom said:Awful player.
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Better than a lot of the people that found themselves playing as striker for Charlton.7
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He's slower than he looks.7
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For Christ's sake hope he doesn't play against the spanners, I still have nightmares about that miss.0
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I was there and that's harsh, he did well to get free and then was put off by the defender, a far more difficult chance than it looked at first.happyvalley said:For Christ's sake hope he doesn't play against the spanners, I still have nightmares about that miss.
Politely disagree with you @cantersaddick, but you've probably seen more of him than I did. I think Mak is a far more rounded player, just played in a team that couldn't adapt to that and lumped balls forward. I still think Tucudean is worth a pre-season under a new manager. He's one of the transfer who I feel like we brought in, and when he didn't settle straight away, binned off. It might be that he struggled to settle in England, which would be a fault of the recruitment team for not sounding that out beforehand.3 -
Not up to this level or the one we're dropping down to. Deluded if you think he is.2
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Steaua București thought he was shit too.
Lets give em all a chance as we haven't seen enough of them.
Dmitrovic
Nego
Sarr
Johnson
Bergdich
Caballos
Le point
Ba
Reza
Polish Pete
Tucadean
Ok Le points gone but you get my drift.
Wow what an awful awful bunch of players
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Fair enough. We probably just saw him play in different games. I'm not saying he was complete or fully rounded but I think he had potential to have more to his game than Mak does. I don't see Mak becoming much more than the player he already is. It's all about opinion.SDAddick said:
I was there and that's harsh, he did well to get free and then was put off by the defender, a far more difficult chance than it looked at first.happyvalley said:For Christ's sake hope he doesn't play against the spanners, I still have nightmares about that miss.
Politely disagree with you @cantersaddick, but you've probably seen more of him than I did. I think Mak is a far more rounded player, just played in a team that couldn't adapt to that and lumped balls forward. I still think Tucudean is worth a pre-season under a new manager. He's one of the transfer who I feel like we brought in, and when he didn't settle straight away, binned off. It might be that he struggled to settle in England, which would be a fault of the recruitment team for not sounding that out beforehand.0 -
Yeah, those one on ones are always tricky, particularly when you've just rounded the keeper and only need to slot it in......SDAddick said:
I was there and that's harsh, he did well to get free and then was put off by the defender, a far more difficult chance than it looked at first.happyvalley said:For Christ's sake hope he doesn't play against the spanners, I still have nightmares about that miss.
Politely disagree with you @cantersaddick, but you've probably seen more of him than I did. I think Mak is a far more rounded player, just played in a team that couldn't adapt to that and lumped balls forward. I still think Tucudean is worth a pre-season under a new manager. He's one of the transfer who I feel like we brought in, and when he didn't settle straight away, binned off. It might be that he struggled to settle in England, which would be a fault of the recruitment team for not sounding that out beforehand.0 -
Roly thought he was good enough. In Roly we trust......1
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It's very interesting because barring that Millwall miss, theres more positives from people on this thread so far than the people who think he's the worst thing going.
The real poll should be if you had to have one of the following starting the first game of the season, who would you have... Mac or Tucc?
I'd be happy to see him in League one as I think he may add a bit more to our attack than what we currently have signed up. As next season we're going to have half of the ones who played this season. Only one of Watt, Igor and Lookman are going to stay. And I reckon it will be Igor. So at least Tucc has played with him before and that's when we saw the best of Igor.0 -
I'd have Mak between the two, and would argue that he and Igor played better together against Rotherham (one of only two games they started together) than Tuc and Igor did. But Igor absolutely will not stay. English football can be incredibly grueling due to scheduling and physicality, and he's really suffered from that. I think very highly of him as a player, but I don't want him to stay, I want him to go somewhere and get fit and not get kicked pillar to post every week.cafc-4-life said:It's very interesting because barring that Millwall miss, theres more positives from people on this thread so far than the people who think he's the worst thing going.
The real poll should be if you had to have one of the following starting the first game of the season, who would you have... Mac or Tucc?
I'd be happy to see him in League one as I think he may add a bit more to our attack than what we currently have signed up. As next season we're going to have half of the ones who played this season. Only one of Watt, Igor and Lookman are going to stay. And I reckon it will be Igor. So at least Tucc has played with him before and that's when we saw the best of Igor.
Watt might stay only due to injury and lack of suitors. With him, at least you kind of know what you're going to get. He's gonna row pretty regularly, and he's either going to be a very good footballer or not give a toss and not turn up. I still suspect he'll go on loan whenever he's fit if he can't get a move beforehand. I'd wish him the best of luck, because it's clear he doesn't want to be here.0 -
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He would definitely score goals in league one if he's fit but as you can see from this thread he's been slotted on the "He's Shit " Catagory by the usual Charlton boo boys .
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That's mainly because....he is shit.
40 odd goals in 200 odd apps knocking around in the Romanian and Belgian leagues.
I'd rather have Pawell Abbott.
And for the record, I'm not one of the 'usual boo boys'....but perhaps you weren't talking about me.
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I liked him. When the team was structured properly - i.e two strikers and some decent creativity from the midfield - he looked good.
I'd probably go for him over Mak to be quite honest, although Mak isn't as bad as some make up.
We have made some dog awful signings recently - but Tucudean and Makienok aren't the worst by any way, not that that's exactly a ringing endorsement.8 -
Yeah definitely score goals just like he did in the championship and just like he did in some pony Romanian league1
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Yes, Paul Hayes is a good comparison, I never understood why he was bombed out so quickly. Bulot was nothing special in his first few months, and only came good in the last few months of the seasonExiled_Addick said:Reminded me a bit of Paul Hayes. Not got the physicality or agility of a Kermorgant, but had decent technique and could bring others into play. Could be a good foil for the right strike partner, like Hayes was with BWP, but not a potential talisman like Kermo was.
Personally think we binned him out too soon - it's received wisdom that foreign players need time to adapt to the English leagues and he showed enough to begin with to suggest he might eventually do okay. He's probably not the only one that might apply to and is part of a general trend at the club of wanting to bring in unknown potential but then not having the patience to let if adapt and potentially thrive.
He's probably no better than League 1/lower Championship standard (at best) but that's where we are and he should be better prepared for what the league will throw at him so I'd say he is worth a second chance as part of a deeper, more balanced squad. At some point we have to start to think a bit about building some stability and better the devil you know, this constant churn of players and managers is not helpful, even allowing for the fact that some have to leave because they simply aren't up to it.1 -
Yep for sure he been excellent in league one!0
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Personally would quite like to see him come back into the squad , especially seeing as we have 1 or 2 senior strikers for next season!
He definitely had the touch and technique , just lacked goals- when compared to vetokele season just finished he is better!
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Made a bit harder when you get barged over by a defender though.Off_it said:
Yeah, those one on ones are always tricky, particularly when you've just rounded the keeper and only need to slot it in......SDAddick said:
I was there and that's harsh, he did well to get free and then was put off by the defender, a far more difficult chance than it looked at first.happyvalley said:For Christ's sake hope he doesn't play against the spanners, I still have nightmares about that miss.
Politely disagree with you @cantersaddick, but you've probably seen more of him than I did. I think Mak is a far more rounded player, just played in a team that couldn't adapt to that and lumped balls forward. I still think Tucudean is worth a pre-season under a new manager. He's one of the transfer who I feel like we brought in, and when he didn't settle straight away, binned off. It might be that he struggled to settle in England, which would be a fault of the recruitment team for not sounding that out beforehand.1 -
I'd have him in League One no problem. To be honest Naby Sarr could be ok at that level too! Going with too many youngsters will be the big mistake as the old pros in that division will know how to stop inexperienced teams. We need to keep a few of our qulaity players too - failing to do so will be a false economy!4
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