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CAS Trust recommends owner to sell

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,051
    rikofold said:

    Rothko said:

    There was no need for the trust to speak to them at all

    No but weren't you opposed to the public meeting we called? You can't please everyone all the time, but some people you can never please.
    Don't give him the bite he's been looking for.
  • SE7toSG3
    SE7toSG3 Posts: 3,140
    I was a no but on reading the trust statement in full can only say well done, you appear to delivered a lear message to both of them. RD will not tolerate that level of investment for much longer of that I am sure.
  • Charltonparklane
    Charltonparklane Posts: 5,786
    Think we would have played into their hands if they offered us to talk and we didn't turn up.

    They would have been straight to the media and issuing statements that we were offered the chance to hear the board and we refused.

    I'm no expert but just my opinion.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    SE7toSG3 said:

    I was a no but on reading the trust statement in full can only say well done, you appear to delivered a LEAR message to both of them. RD will not tolerate that level of investment for much longer of that I am sure.

    Great job by the Trust ! No fuss, no messing, just a clear and concise message given to "them".

    I agree with Davo that the press should be made aware of this outcome and that the Trust and all its members emerge as the good guys, which of course they are. Get their message out before the regime spins it .

    Also good to see that the Bard has not been forgotten in this.

    A clever, yet pertinent indication that England produces the very best....

  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    Agree with those who ask for/would like a press release!

    Even if it just goes to the evening standard , the FT and South London press! Put them in no doubt that they have 0 support, and that the trust won this battle!
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,833
    Weegie Addick said:

    The Trust reps at the meeting were Chair Steve Clarke, Secretary @pico and board member @Rob7Lee. They had a clear plan, which was developed and agreed with the rest of the board, and they stuck to it.

    Well done gents.

    I'm with what @Davo55 said. You've taken a big call there, and not done it lightly. Maximise it now and get it out there.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,128
    Weegie Addick said:

    Press release being prepared as we speak...

    Can you put all the words up on here and we'll have a vote about what order we want them in?




    I'm joking, I'm joking, calm down :smirk:
  • iainambler
    iainambler Posts: 963
    Thank you CAST.

    Think you've struck the right balance there. No dialogue just a polite sell up and go away message.

    Right call on FF in my humble.

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  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,623
    Weegie Addick said:

    The Trust reps at the meeting were Chair Steve Clarke, Secretary @pico and board member @Rob7Lee. They had a clear plan, which was developed and agreed with the rest of the board, and they stuck to it.

    Well done to all.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    edited April 2016
    Davo55 said:

    Davo55 said:

    Is it intended that CAST issue a press release with both the survey information and the call to sell?

    To elaborate my question and explain my rationale........

    I thought it was the wrong decision to meet with them, but once the survey responses were analysed it is clear that the Trust had no option. Let's not argue the rights and wrongs any more; what's done is done.

    And the meeting seems to have gone the way the Trust wanted it to (which was a worry, to be frank) and the report back to fans is succinct and convincing. Well done to the Trust - as good an outcome as could have been achieved, under the circumstances.

    What is important now is how we build on that, what happens next.

    That's why I asked my question: we know or at least strongly suspect that Duchatlet gets a somewhat sanitised view of matters in SE7 from Meire. He needs to get this message directly and publicly so he and the football world more widely are in no doubt where we stand. I think that the Trust should issue a press release incorporating their ST survey data and repeating the call for him to sell. This would ideally also be released in French and Dutch to the leading Belgian press.

    Also, it seems clear to me, the days of the Trust seeking dialogue with him/them are over, unless it is on the matter of selling.

    CARD have said we are not interested in any plan other than their exit plan. It seems that the Trust have now said the same, in a slightly different way. Everyone is on the same side. The battle lines are drawn, the war is with Duchatelet, and it is total war from a unified force.
    Well said

    I didn't think the decision to meet was the right on but having launched a survey the Trust we're almost bound to follow the result. We can argue that the framing of the three options made the middle one the most likely but the result was the result.

    The walk in, tell them to sell and walk out was the right tactic if the Trust were going to meet them. I wouldn't have even given the oxygen of publicity to their £1m a month figure. Meaningless but as we can see it is now dominating the debate.

    I'm surprised that the meeting took place so quickly given KMs inability to meet with Varney but that indicates to me that she wanted the meeting for her own reasons. We shall have to wait and see how, if at all, she spins this. She had clearly hoped to gain something from finally meeting the Trust.

    As Davo55 says time to focus on Duchatlelet and getting him out. I fear we have a long, long road to travel before that happens.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,231
    Well done. You listened and went with the majority.

    Would have loved to be a fly on the wall.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    sammy391 said:

    Agree with those who ask for/would like a press release!

    Even if it just goes to the evening standard , the FT and South London press! Put them in no doubt that they have 0 support, and that the trust won this battle!

    Press release is being finalised. It will go to a lot more outlets than those you mentioned but that's different to saying they will publish it.

    We do have the Belgian database, but a translation into French and Dutch is a bit of an ask, @Davo55 . It isn't going to be that newsworthy and most of them speak English Ok, having responded to previous PRs re the Belgian activity.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,743
    Don't mess with the attack dog.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,534
    @Airman Brown @Davo55 Not sure who controls the social media but a retweet by CARD would be useful. Thanks.
  • stilladdicted
    stilladdicted Posts: 4,307
    Dignified, politically astute and kept the supporters on board. Well done to all involved.
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,188
    I still think the trust should have demanded a meeting with the organ grinder and not his lying minions.

    However, they did as the survey suggested and have delivered an unambiguous message afterwards. That's a result in my book.

    I'd like to add my voice to those suggesting they release something to the media both here and in Belgium ASAP to stop the regime twisting this meeting for its own ends.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,369
    It was the right thing to do, (to meet). I do get the feeling that the club have misjudged us fans once again. They could of had productive dialogue months ago but have chosen the end of a disappointing season. I sort of see their reason for this but now they have effectively no one to communicate with now the trust have more or less told them talking time is over.
    The £1m per month is a meaningless figure without seeing the whole books. If a business of Charltons size is losing that amount per year you have to question the ability of those in charge.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Massive credit to the Trust here. I was a voting non-member, then quickly rectified that (thought I already was a member). Proud to be a new member, and proud with how the trust handled an incredibly difficult situation.

    I voted to speak to them and tell them to sell. My hope then, and now, is that it will send a message to Miere and Murray that they have no allies left in this fight, and that there is nowhere left for them to go. There's a part of me that hopes this is a watershed moment, for Murray perhaps if not Miere. I could see a way in which they chalk up the protests to results on the pitch or herd mentality. But by the sounds of things the Trust representatives made it very clear today that they are not considered fit stewards of our club.

    Lastly, huge credit to everyone on here and on Twitter for such positive and constructive reposes, particularly those who voted for another outcome. In the end, we are all Charlton fans, and I've been so proud watching how different views and perspectives have been handled in all of this.

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  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    Don't agree but the majority has spoken and I respect that!
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    PragueAddick said:

    sammy391 said:

    Agree with those who ask for/would like a press release!

    Even if it just goes to the evening standard , the FT and South London press! Put them in no doubt that they have 0 support, and that the trust won this battle!

    Press release is being finalised. It will go to a lot more outlets than those you mentioned but that's different to saying they will publish it.

    We do have the Belgian database, but a translation into French and Dutch is a bit of an ask, @Davo55 . It isn't going to be that newsworthy and most of them speak English Ok, having responded to previous PRs re the Belgian activity.
    Fair enough Prague. The key point was to get the story out there on his home turf - especially if that could include the financial/business editors as well as the sports desks.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    Weegie Addick said:

    @Airman Brown @Davo55 Not sure who controls the social media but a retweet by CARD would be useful. Thanks.


    @Airman Brown and @Matt_Wright handle that for CARD, but agree with you. I'll do a personal one for sure.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    Weegie Addick said:

    The Trust reps at the meeting were Chair Steve Clarke, Secretary @pico and board member @Rob7Lee. They had a clear plan, which was developed and agreed with the rest of the board, and they stuck to it.

    Thanks Weegie. As a matter of interest, was there any indication of what KM and RM wanted to achieve such as an agenda and did they show any surprise or disappointment at the way the meeting went?
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    Weegie Addick said:

    @Airman Brown @Davo55 Not sure who controls the social media but a retweet by CARD would be useful. Thanks.

    Done.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    Talk to @Lewis Coaches for translations he maybe able to help
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,231
    This isn't a lost cause and the whole "actively" comment is misleading... Let's make Burnley the biggest one yet and show Roland it's time to go
  • olster
    olster Posts: 1,399
    @PragueAddick I can sort a French translation if you need.

    A tricky situation well handled by CAST - well done.

    Did they offer you tea?
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,534
    Davo55 said:

    Weegie Addick said:

    @Airman Brown @Davo55 Not sure who controls the social media but a retweet by CARD would be useful. Thanks.


    @Airman Brown and @Matt_Wright handle that for CARD, but agree with you. I'll do a personal one for sure.
    Thanks to whoever did it.

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