Didn't David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Bill Wyman and many other well respected rock stars from the 70's regularly have sex with 15 year old groupies when they were in their 20s? That sentence seems overly severe to me. I know times have changed but his life has already been ruined over the last 12 months. I have not followed the details of the case. Was there evidence of violence or physical coercion against the girl? If there was then a custodial sentence is in order.
Shouldn't Mick Jagger and Bill Wyman now be charged. I have read many articles over the years in which women claim they slept with members of the Stones when they (the women) were 15?
Didn't David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Bill Wyman and many other well respected rock stars from the 70's regularly have sex with 15 year old groupies when they were in their 20s? That sentence seems overly severe to me. I know times have changed but his life has already been ruined over the last 12 months. I have not followed the details of the case. Was there evidence of violence or physical coercion against the girl? If there was then a custodial sentence is in order.
Shouldn't Mick Jagger and Bill Wyman now be charged. I have read many articles over the years in which women claim they slept with members of the Stones when they (the women) were 15?
I think it's the grooming that's warranted the sentence rather than the act itself.
Didn't David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Bill Wyman and many other well respected rock stars from the 70's regularly have sex with 15 year old groupies when they were in their 20s? That sentence seems overly severe to me. I know times have changed but his life has already been ruined over the last 12 months. I have not followed the details of the case. Was there evidence of violence or physical coercion against the girl? If there was then a custodial sentence is in order.
Shouldn't Mick Jagger and Bill Wyman now be charged. I have read many articles over the years in which women claim they slept with members of the Stones when they (the women) were 15?
They could only be charged if the victims came forward. Considering all the media coverage over the past few years brought out many accusing the likes of Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris etc. I have not heard of anyone accusing the stars you mentioned, or indeed any members of the rock bands of the 60's and 70's with hedonistic reputations; but then maybe these 14/15 year old groupies didn't feel they were abused and enjoyed themselves with their idols.
The millionaire bass player said he asked detectives and prosecutors if they wanted to question him but they declined his offer.
It followed revelations by Mandy, who went on to become his second wife, that she had begun a sexual relationship with the rock star when she was just 14.
Wyman, 76, said: “I went to the police and I went to the public prosecutor and said, ‘Do you want to talk to me? Do you want to meet up with me, or anything like that?’ and I got a message back, ‘No’. I was totally open about it.”
So Gary Glitter was a pervert but Bill Wyman, who when he was 49, married Mandy at 18, so there's no Problem ?
I'm struggling to get my head round the double standards between Glitter and Wyman.
Johnson seems like a guy who has no Morals when it comes to sex, hence the Animal Porn revelations.
6 years seems lenient to me. Especially as he will probably only serve half that in Prison. I definitely think 10 years would have been more appropriate. Maybe the Trial Judge thought there was little point in sentencing him like anyone else, as with Johnson's wealth he would just get in the best Barristers money can buy and appeal.
obviously hes a dirty nonce but was just pointing out that his england caps were taken away
No it's good that you pointed it out, I didn't realise it had happened. Never heard of it before, what does it actually mean in reality ?
just means that you were never considered a part of the team i think, in reality means very little, but fifa will wipe him from any match facts etc.
No sympathy with Johnson as an individual at all but the idea and principle of "rewriting history" sits uneasily with me.
Smacks of North Korea or Stalinist Russia.
The fact is he DID represent England like it or not.
Agreed.
In fact, I think it makes his presence in the England squad more notable. If I saw a some games where the team fielded 10 players I would sure as hell make a point of giving it a google and seeing what happened.
The quote thing isnt working but @Uboat there is some really sick stuff out there. It's one of the paraphilias know as Zoophilia and is also a crime. It rarely gets included in crime reports/sentencing as it is seen as a 'lesser' crime than some. EG if someone sexually abuses a cow and then robs the farmers house the robbery is the main crime. Really awful stuff - and actually an actual case
obviously hes a dirty nonce but was just pointing out that his england caps were taken away
No it's good that you pointed it out, I didn't realise it had happened. Never heard of it before, what does it actually mean in reality ?
just means that you were never considered a part of the team i think, in reality means very little, but fifa will wipe him from any match facts etc.
No sympathy with Johnson as an individual at all but the idea and principle of "rewriting history" sits uneasily with me.
Smacks of North Korea or Stalinist Russia.
The fact is he DID represent England like it or not.
Agreed.
In fact, I think it makes his presence in the England squad more notable. If I saw a some games where the team fielded 10 players I would sure as hell make a point of giving it a google and seeing what happened.
I read somewhere in passing that he was "stripped of his England caps." I know there is some little trinket given out with caps, but does that mean the FA has taken them away from him? What else are they doing?
Regarding what Sunderland knew and a "points deduction" has been thrown out, this should be considered far more severe than football. I know a points deduction would create the biggest heading for the tabloids, but they knew that he had improper conduct with an underaged girl and allowed him to continue as their employee, a situation which would continually put him into similar situations as that which he exploited with the underage girl. It shouldn't be about points deductions, it should be an investigation as to whether or not this was a crime, first by law, then by the FA/Premier League.
Sorry, but I never have any time for these sentences. The starting point, as far as I am concerned, is that he has been sentenced to THREE years. I've read the sentencing report and as far as I am concerned it should have been at least 5 times that. 800+ exchanged messages in the 2 months after her 15th birthday as he groomed her!! Deserves a damn site more than he got.
So,just having posted a eulogy to Johan Cruyff on this site I now come to the complete opposite end of the spectrum. A footballer with little brain and a disrespect for others.Overpaid,over-rated and probably never to earn a penny more from a sport that has treated him royally.Not that his club has helped matters either. Where,between the genius of Cruyff and this specimen,did football get it wrong?
Goodbye you rancid cunt. Not only are you a kiddie fiddler but the only one that owns animal farm spin offs.
I hardy call him a kiddie fiddler. She probably looks older than she is. It's not like he has harmed a little child. There is a difference. But that said it is stil illigal.
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Shouldn't Mick Jagger and Bill Wyman now be charged. I have read many articles over the years in which women claim they slept with members of the Stones when they (the women) were 15?
Smacks of North Korea or Stalinist Russia.
The fact is he DID represent England like it or not.
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/r-v-johnson-sentencing.pdf
The millionaire bass player said he asked detectives and prosecutors if they wanted to question him but they declined his offer.
It followed revelations by Mandy, who went on to become his second wife, that she had begun a sexual relationship with the rock star when she was just 14.
Wyman, 76, said: “I went to the police and I went to the public prosecutor and said, ‘Do you want to talk to me? Do you want to meet up with me, or anything like that?’ and I got a message back, ‘No’. I was totally open about it.”
So Gary Glitter was a pervert but Bill Wyman, who when he was 49, married Mandy at 18, so there's no Problem ?
I'm struggling to get my head round the double standards between Glitter and Wyman.
Johnson seems like a guy who has no Morals when it comes to sex, hence the Animal Porn revelations.
In fact, I think it makes his presence in the England squad more notable. If I saw a some games where the team fielded 10 players I would sure as hell make a point of giving it a google and seeing what happened.
Regarding what Sunderland knew and a "points deduction" has been thrown out, this should be considered far more severe than football. I know a points deduction would create the biggest heading for the tabloids, but they knew that he had improper conduct with an underaged girl and allowed him to continue as their employee, a situation which would continually put him into similar situations as that which he exploited with the underage girl. It shouldn't be about points deductions, it should be an investigation as to whether or not this was a crime, first by law, then by the FA/Premier League.
A footballer with little brain and a disrespect for others.Overpaid,over-rated and probably never to earn a penny more from a sport that has treated him royally.Not that his club has helped matters either.
Where,between the genius of Cruyff and this specimen,did football get it wrong?
Former England footballer Adam Johnson was arrested on suspicion of possessing animal pornography on his laptop, it can be revealed.
He was also taking medication used to treat sexually-transmitted infections at the time of his arrest last year.
It has also been reported that Johnson, 28, had allegedly browsed a website called “Nice Young Teens”, which featured explicit but not unlawful images
No not a lot of flexibility. Thought he deserved more than 6 years though - especially as he could be out in 3 with good behaviour.