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Woeful Holland
Godstone
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What happened to the Dutch? 3rd in World Cup but 4th in their Euro Group.
Their last game a must win against the Czechs and they get beaten at home by 10 men.
Can you imagine if that was England, what the press reaction would be! Makes McClaren's 'wally with the brolly'
team look good.
What happened to the Dutch? 3rd in World Cup but 4th in their Euro Group.
Their last game a must win against the Czechs and they get beaten at home by 10 men.
Can you imagine if that was England, what the press reaction would be! Makes McClaren's 'wally with the brolly'
team look good.
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'Blind' leading the Blind6
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Thought this was another thread on Captain Cleanshorts.4
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Been a funny one for a few years in the fact that they've usually git about 3 or 4 world beaters and the rest are completely average.0
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I'm just pleased that that steaming turd Robben won't be at the finals!9
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Normally it's those with the massive egos that are the problems for the Dutch.North Lower Neil said:Been a funny one for a few years in the fact that they've usually git about 3 or 4 world beaters and the rest are completely average.
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Looked very poor tonight, especially at the back where Van Djik (sic), looks absolutely woeful.
Still a mystery how a team that was 3rd in the WC, can fail to qualify from a group that wasn't that hard in reality.
Robben and Vlaar a huge miss for the Dutch - IMHO.0 -
Was there tonight, they were woeful.
Utterly inept for 40 minutes until they went to 442 (the left back was terrible and putting blind there and going with wijnaldum and sneijder and rvp and huntelaar should've happened much earlier). They then couldn't build on that 5 or so minutes before half time where they looked dominant, including a hamer-at-Sheffield-Wednesday-fa-cup-esque save from cech.
The comedic own goal after the unexpectedly lacklustre start to the second half just destroyed them.
Didn't feel as though they had any chance even after their first and second went in, even though they had 3 strikers on and were playing long ball football to Bas Dost.
If England showed that lack of urgency then there would be hell to pay with the public. To think some people are downplaying our 10/10 record?
Disappointed to not see the Dutch at the next euros. Players such as robben, vlaar, Martins indi, van der wiel, and de vrij not in the team from the world cup but they still should have qualified from this group.
Nice stadium and despite the happy clappy stuff (with the clappers we had from the prem relegation season) and a few people near me trying to start a Mexican wave (no thanks) the atmosphere was better than I've experienced at Wembley.5 -
Depay was awful as well0
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Totally underwhelmed by Depay, if he is what $30M gets you these days, then God help us.
I'll miss the Dutch at the Euro's, always offer something a bit different, even if it is sometimes a monumental falling out amongst the coaching and playing staff (WC 90, Euro 96 and Euro 2004) if I remember correctly.
I think that the natural Dutch instinct for plain speaking, can often lead them into dangerous territory.1 - Sponsored links:
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They has Guus Hiddink, who was a disaster for the first half of the QF's, and have had Danny Blind for the second half - who hasn't improved things much!
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Southampton Fans should be worried at the moment, I'd expect Holland to go after Koeman when they want to change again1
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You have to laugh. Albania and Wales will be there, and not the mighty Dutch. I daresay this'll come back and bite me when England draw 0-0 in their first group match against Albania, before Turkey send us home with a 2-1 defeat, but at the minute, it shows we did more than okay in qualifying.5
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Looked down their team list last night and surprised how few I had heard of0
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AFKABartram said:
Looked down their team list last night and surprised how few I had heard of
Saw a stat on Twitter that only two of the team that demolished Spain in Brazil, started last night.
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To be honest, other than that fantastic performance against Spain, Holland weren't much use at the World Cup either. They weren't great against Australia who should have got something from that match, they scraped past Mexico with Robben at his diving worst, they juuuust barely got by Costa Rica on penalties after a goalless bore draw and they couldn't get a goal against Argentina and lost on pens. Even when they went out it was boring. The longer the World Cup went on the more depressing Holland became until they were almost unwatchable. This terrible Euro groups performance feels like the inevitable outcome of them not changing things up, and then ultimately putting van Gaal's assistant in charge to continue the same route6
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I suspect Mr Blind will be out of a job very soon - he isn't exactly popular and their performance has been laughable.
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They have always had some bang average players mixed in with worldies but when they gel, they gel and the Dutch instinct takes over occasionally and we're all crowing about orange total football. For whatever reason (and there are many) they don't gel as often as they should.
Coaching around the world has also improved hugely in the last 2 decades amd a lot of Dutch coaches have been responsible for that. Very few national sides now don't at least try and play on the floor so Holland aren't as unique in their total football style as they once were. In fact if you were 20 years old you'd think total football was a Spanish thing.
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In the summer, if you spent a fortune on a Dutch young star, you assumed you were getting a world beater... I suspect this failure to qualify will be a reality check on how good some of their young players are...Kenny Achampong said:Totally underwhelmed by Depay, if he is what $30M gets you these days, then God help us.
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Didn't we buy a promising young striker from the Dutch leagues to replace Yann
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We also bought a promising winger from the Dutch leagues.0
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Depay is what, 21?killerandflash said:
In the summer, if you spent a fortune on a Dutch young star, you assumed you were getting a world beater... I suspect this failure to qualify will be a reality check on how good some of their young players are...Kenny Achampong said:Totally underwhelmed by Depay, if he is what $30M gets you these days, then God help us.
Think he's going to be a very good player.0 -
Disagree on that one mate.
Doesn't have the pace to go on the outside, and looks to come infield at every given opportunity.
Think he may have a career similar to that other your Dutch lad, who went to Liverpool with a big reputation Ryan Babel.
A few flashes of talent, but on the whole struggled to impose himself on a better league than the Dutch PL, and then drifted off to a variety of continental mid range clubs.0 -
He is a very good player and have enjoyed watching him in TV. He has a poor game for the Dutch and he's suddenly kak? Mmmmmmmm.........North Lower Neil said:
Depay is what, 21?killerandflash said:
In the summer, if you spent a fortune on a Dutch young star, you assumed you were getting a world beater... I suspect this failure to qualify will be a reality check on how good some of their young players are...Kenny Achampong said:Totally underwhelmed by Depay, if he is what $30M gets you these days, then God help us.
Think he's going to be a very good player.
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Didn't say he was no good, just don't think he is going to be top rank.
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Depay looks pretty quick from what I've n? Powerful and skilful too.
Young guy and new to the league, he's still got a lot to learn but he's got plenty to build on.
We'll see, but I reckon in a couple of years time (and possibly under the next manager who plays quicker football than Van Gaal seems to) he'll be a very good player.0 -
Didn't really rate Ronaldo at first either, so what do I know!1
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That's a good comparison to be fair - not that's he's going to be as good as Ronaldo (who is bar Messi?), but that Ronaldo was inconsistent and a bit lightweight for the first 2 or 3 years over here.Kenny Achampong said:Didn't really rate Ronaldo at first either, so what do I know!
Depends on Depay's attitude and willingness to work hard and learn but he has all the assets to succeed.0
