New Look England Squad...
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Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?2 -
Jamie Vardy is a decent player, but surely not England quality. He has only scored 4 goals this season. Would have gone for Defoe myself.
I know many people are happy we have got away from the likes of Lampard, Gerrard, Terry etc but that squad just screams "average".1 -
The squad definitely does, but a fit starting line-up is good i think.cafctom said:Jamie Vardy is a decent player, but surely not England quality. He has only scored 4 goals this season. Would have gone for Defoe myself.
I know many people are happy we have got away from the likes of Lampard, Gerrard, Terry etc but that squad just screams "average".0 -
Are you being serious?SELR_addicks said:Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?
Vardy is in there as he has had a great end to the season, 3 goals yes but 10 assists aswell.
Defoe has been crap since coming back to the premiership and Crouch doesn't even start for Stoke.
Heaton is in ahead of Forster because he is injured.0 -
the lack of depth of England players is shocking.....2 of those keepers have been relegated
Jamie Vardy !!!!!!, runs around a lot basically0 -
Id rather take Ashley Young as another midfielder than Vardy.I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:
Are you being serious?SELR_addicks said:Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?
Vardy is in there as he has had a great end to the season, 3 goals yes but 10 assists aswell.
Defoe has been crap since coming back to the premiership and Crouch doesn't even start for Stoke.
Heaton is in ahead of Forster because he is injured.0 -
So underwhelming, but as others have mentioned it's due to the U21's.
Why do players like Wilshire still make it? Not played at all due to injury, and straight in, Personally I think he's very overrated, same with Andros Townsend.2 -
Rather have Deeney than Vardy2
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Rest of the world beware England now have Jamie Vardy in their squad2
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Oh look it's squad announcement time AKA moaning time.1
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I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:
Are you being serious?SELR_addicks said:Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?
Vardy is in there as he has had a great end to the season, 3 goals yes but 10 assists aswell.
Defoe has been crap since coming back to the premiership and Crouch doesn't even start for Stoke.
Heaton is in ahead of Forster because he is injured.
Defoe has scored more goals than Vardy in half a season after a good season in the MLS. His performance yesterday against Arsenal was great as well.
The problem is throwing players in at the age of 28/29 with zero International experience when what we should be doing is building young players for the future and having them train alongside experienced pros.
Heaton and Vardy add nothing to the team, they won't play and they're basically there for the training. Why not give the place to Defoe or Ben Foster to help the younger players instead?
We're going to win the games regardless in our group. May as well prepare for the main tournament, rather than throw fringe form players into the squad to take up the space of a better player.
Seeing as Walcott can easily play up front, I'd have Young/Dyer/Downing instead that are all much better than Vardy.3 -
Kieron Dyer?!0
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Nathan Dyer? The uncapped 27 year old?SELR_addicks said:I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:
Are you being serious?SELR_addicks said:Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?
Vardy is in there as he has had a great end to the season, 3 goals yes but 10 assists aswell.
Defoe has been crap since coming back to the premiership and Crouch doesn't even start for Stoke.
Heaton is in ahead of Forster because he is injured.
Defoe has scored more goals than Vardy in half a season after a good season in the MLS. His performance yesterday against Arsenal was great as well.
The problem is throwing players in at the age of 28/29 with zero International experience when what we should be doing is building young players for the future and having them train alongside experienced pros.
Heaton and Vardy add nothing to the team, they won't play and they're basically there for the training. Why not give the place to Defoe or Ben Foster to help the younger players instead?
We're going to win the games regardless in our group. May as well prepare for the main tournament, rather than throw fringe form players into the squad to take up the space of a better player.
Seeing as Walcott can easily play up front, I'd have Young/Dyer/Downing instead that are all much better than Vardy.1 -
Had a few good seasons in the Premier League, think he's earned it.colthe3rd said:
Nathan Dyer? The uncapped 27 year old?SELR_addicks said:I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:
Are you being serious?SELR_addicks said:Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?
Vardy is in there as he has had a great end to the season, 3 goals yes but 10 assists aswell.
Defoe has been crap since coming back to the premiership and Crouch doesn't even start for Stoke.
Heaton is in ahead of Forster because he is injured.
Defoe has scored more goals than Vardy in half a season after a good season in the MLS. His performance yesterday against Arsenal was great as well.
The problem is throwing players in at the age of 28/29 with zero International experience when what we should be doing is building young players for the future and having them train alongside experienced pros.
Heaton and Vardy add nothing to the team, they won't play and they're basically there for the training. Why not give the place to Defoe or Ben Foster to help the younger players instead?
We're going to win the games regardless in our group. May as well prepare for the main tournament, rather than throw fringe form players into the squad to take up the space of a better player.
Seeing as Walcott can easily play up front, I'd have Young/Dyer/Downing instead that are all much better than Vardy.
Vardy has had about 3 months of decent form. That's the difference.0 -
You're contradicting yourself there mate.SELR_addicks said:
Had a few good seasons in the Premier League, think he's earned it.colthe3rd said:
Nathan Dyer? The uncapped 27 year old?SELR_addicks said:I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:
Are you being serious?SELR_addicks said:Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?
Vardy is in there as he has had a great end to the season, 3 goals yes but 10 assists aswell.
Defoe has been crap since coming back to the premiership and Crouch doesn't even start for Stoke.
Heaton is in ahead of Forster because he is injured.
Defoe has scored more goals than Vardy in half a season after a good season in the MLS. His performance yesterday against Arsenal was great as well.
The problem is throwing players in at the age of 28/29 with zero International experience when what we should be doing is building young players for the future and having them train alongside experienced pros.
Heaton and Vardy add nothing to the team, they won't play and they're basically there for the training. Why not give the place to Defoe or Ben Foster to help the younger players instead?
We're going to win the games regardless in our group. May as well prepare for the main tournament, rather than throw fringe form players into the squad to take up the space of a better player.
Seeing as Walcott can easily play up front, I'd have Young/Dyer/Downing instead that are all much better than Vardy.
Vardy has had about 3 months of decent form. That's the difference.
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I've already said due to the Under-21 tournament coming up there isn't a lot of options. Just think that Dyer/Downing and Young are much better players than Vardy.colthe3rd said:
You're contradicting yourself there mate.SELR_addicks said:
Had a few good seasons in the Premier League, think he's earned it.colthe3rd said:
Nathan Dyer? The uncapped 27 year old?SELR_addicks said:I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:
Are you being serious?SELR_addicks said:Vardy is 28 years old, 3 goals in 33 games this season. What's the point?
With Berahino/Ings/Kane/Bamford in the Under 21 squad I guess Hodgson is out of options.
Defoe has probably done more to deserve a call-up than Vardy though. Or Crouch.
Also 28 year old Heaton instead of Fraser Forster who is younger and much much better?
Vardy is in there as he has had a great end to the season, 3 goals yes but 10 assists aswell.
Defoe has been crap since coming back to the premiership and Crouch doesn't even start for Stoke.
Heaton is in ahead of Forster because he is injured.
Defoe has scored more goals than Vardy in half a season after a good season in the MLS. His performance yesterday against Arsenal was great as well.
The problem is throwing players in at the age of 28/29 with zero International experience when what we should be doing is building young players for the future and having them train alongside experienced pros.
Heaton and Vardy add nothing to the team, they won't play and they're basically there for the training. Why not give the place to Defoe or Ben Foster to help the younger players instead?
We're going to win the games regardless in our group. May as well prepare for the main tournament, rather than throw fringe form players into the squad to take up the space of a better player.
Seeing as Walcott can easily play up front, I'd have Young/Dyer/Downing instead that are all much better than Vardy.
Vardy has had about 3 months of decent form. That's the difference.0 -
I thought Barkley still qualified for the u21s - surprised he's not in that squad.0
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I don't have a problem with Vardy. He has been playing well the last few months and always runs his nuts off. He's effectively 8th or 9th choice striker so what's the big deal?
Wilshere, Walcott and Gibbss are lucky to have been included though. Overall, does it matter? Everyone loves moaning about Roy's squads but you can't argue with the results. Just let him get on with it.1 -
you've got options from midfield who can play further forward if needed..Sterling, Walcott so no big deal.
Vardy won't play.0 -
with regards to Vardy, surely being in form at the moment is more important that if he'd banged in 17 leading up to xmas?2
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Jamie pissing Vardy?? He has more yellows than goals this season. And he looks like a rat.0
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My point is, long term he's very unlikely to feature, he's unlikely to even feature in much of either of these games. If 3 strikers who would be ahead of him are playing for the U21s then there's not really any problem with him being in there.cafctom said:
Think you've answered your own question there, mate...colthe3rd said:He's effectively 8th or 9th choice striker so what's the big deal?
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Yeah, that World Cup where we finished bottom of the group with one point was a particular highlightcolthe3rd said:I don't have a problem with Vardy. He has been playing well the last few months and always runs his nuts off. He's effectively 8th or 9th choice striker so what's the big deal?
Wilshere, Walcott and Gibbss are lucky to have been included though. Overall, does it matter? Everyone loves moaning about Roy's squads but you can't argue with the results. Just let him get on with it.5 -
And since then? Or I suppose we'll overlook that given that he has done quite well and focus on the cluster fuck of a world cup where it was always going to be the case given the lead up to it.0
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Which is why someone like Ashley Young, arguably United's best player the last 3 months, should be in there.colthe3rd said:
My point is, long term he's very unlikely to feature, he's unlikely to even feature in much of either of these games. If 3 strikers who would be ahead of him are playing for the U21s then there's not really any problem with him being in there.cafctom said:
Think you've answered your own question there, mate...colthe3rd said:He's effectively 8th or 9th choice striker so what's the big deal?
Let there be more competition amongst midfielders that have a chance of playing rather than forwards that aren't.2 -
Agreed, Young has been brilliant recently, I'm surprised he hadn't had a bigger campaign from the media to get him in the squad.ValleyGary said:
Which is why someone like Ashley Young, arguably United's best player the last 3 months, should be in there.colthe3rd said:
My point is, long term he's very unlikely to feature, he's unlikely to even feature in much of either of these games. If 3 strikers who would be ahead of him are playing for the U21s then there's not really any problem with him being in there.cafctom said:
Think you've answered your own question there, mate...colthe3rd said:He's effectively 8th or 9th choice striker so what's the big deal?
Let there be more competition amongst midfielders that have a chance of playing rather than forwards that aren't.0 -
Yeah, he's done fine since then, rolling over San Marino, Estonia and Lithuania, but when it mattered at the World Cup he knobbed it right up. I don't dislike Roy but saying you can't argue with his results after that pitiful World Cup performance is just wrongcolthe3rd said:And since then? Or I suppose we'll overlook that given that he has done quite well and focus on the cluster fuck of a world cup where it was always going to be the case given the lead up to it.
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Young not selected because of injury0
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New inclusions show we have dropped even further.
These would be 'B' squad players in the past, never International standard.1
