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Carl Jenkinson - 12 million quid!

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,519
    Then again, SantaClaus, you are probably right...
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 2015
    SantaClaus said:

    Airman Brown said:

    The Jenkinson fee was £1.5m, plus £250k in add-ons, plus a 15% sell-on.

    If there was a sell on clause I'd be shocked if the spivs didn't cash it in before they swanned off.

    Murray referred to it at the (not much) fun day Q&A in August, so I assume it still exists.

    Also they didn't cash in the Shelvey one.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 2015
    Weegie Addick said:

    So 15% of £12M = £1.8M!

    Papa Smurf laughing all the way to the bank (as long as he can persuade those 'Appy 'Ammers to shell out...)

    To be clear it's 15% of the profit, so would probably be more like £1.5-1.6m.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,519
    Ah OK, what's £200k between friends? ;-)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    I remember Jenkinson signing a contract so that we would get a decent fee for him when he left...
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 2015
    killerandflash said:

    I remember Jenkinson signing a contract so that we would get a decent fee for him when he left...


    He didn't or at least not in 2012. We had other leverage over Arsenal.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    Airman Brown said:

    killerandflash said:

    I remember Jenkinson signing a contract so that we would get a decent fee for him when he left...


    He didn't. We had other leverage.
    Luca Brasi held a gun to his head?
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    Airman Brown said:

    killerandflash said:

    I remember Jenkinson signing a contract so that we would get a decent fee for him when he left...


    He didn't or at least not in 2012. We had other leverage over Arsenal.
    Them poaching Huddart?
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,519
    killerandflash said:

    I remember Jenkinson signing a contract so that we would get a decent fee for him when he left...

    Think you're confusing him with Shelvey.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Airman Brown said:

    SantaClaus said:

    Airman Brown said:

    The Jenkinson fee was £1.5m, plus £250k in add-ons, plus a 15% sell-on.

    If there was a sell on clause I'd be shocked if the spivs didn't cash it in before they swanned off.

    Murray referred to it at the (not much) fun day Q&A in August, so I assume it still exists.
    I've really gotta work on my cynicism. Hope you're right :-)
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  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Airman Brown said:

    killerandflash said:

    I remember Jenkinson signing a contract so that we would get a decent fee for him when he left...


    He didn't or at least not in 2012. We had other leverage over Arsenal.
    What was the leverage? The usual questionable tapping up, that every bigger club does and then is disgusted when it happens to them?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    Airman Brown said:

    killerandflash said:

    I remember Jenkinson signing a contract so that we would get a decent fee for him when he left...


    He didn't or at least not in 2012. We had other leverage over Arsenal.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13695799
    My mistake, but as the story goes he did seem to care that we got more than the basic fee for him
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    @Scoham maybe you can clear up as you are the resident FM expert for us

    the transfer information who supplies that as that might clear this up, as on there it says 20% profit (I just recieved 200k as he moved to West Ham)

    so is the 20% done by you, the arsenal guy or made up by SI
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    So idiotic the money received played a huge part in us winning the league the following season.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    edited January 2015
    paulie8290 said:

    @Scoham maybe you can clear up as you are the resident FM expert for us

    the transfer information who supplies that as that might clear this up, as on there it says 20% profit (I just recieved 200k as he moved to West Ham)

    so is the 20% done by you, the arsenal guy or made up by SI

    That was an estimate by me (as were any other clauses), there might not be any sell on clause at all.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    ForeverAddickted said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    Solly's problem (and our benefit) is that he's not tall enough (So teams dont want to give him a chance) not to mention his knees, if he was as tall as Jenkinson and was injury free then he'd be England's Right Back in my opinion
    Yeah, right, and if I had my own web site, some brain cells and a computerised voice, I'd be Stephen Hawking.....
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    cafcfan said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    Solly's problem (and our benefit) is that he's not tall enough (So teams dont want to give him a chance) not to mention his knees, if he was as tall as Jenkinson and was injury free then he'd be England's Right Back in my opinion
    Yeah, right, and if I had my own web site, some brain cells and a computerised voice, I'd be Stephen Hawking.....
    Thing is Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson our two regular Right-Backs for England are only picked because they've got pace... Could pick anyone out of the GB Athletics teams to do that job yet like with Walcott their delivery is as good as the post office - Gary Neville was never the quickest of Right-Backs but he didnt need to have pace as he was always thinking one step ahead (knew how to cross the ball into the box too)

    Its like with John Terry, he's getting slower in his old age but he's still class because of his ability to be there at the right time and place (And as the song goes... Chris Solly is better than John Terry FACT lol!)
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Callumcafc said:

    Airman Brown said:

    The Jenkinson fee was £1.5m, plus £250k in add-ons, plus a 15% sell-on (over and above).

    This is what funded the team building in 2012. I was sceptical about that in part because I originally believed the fee was less, but this is reliable.

    So say Arsenal do sell him for 12m, we would get roughly 1.5m of the 10.5m profit?
    £1,575,000.00 - Not bad, could be the wages for a strong Loanee.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    Weegie Addick said:

    So 15% of £12M = £1.8M!

    Papa Smurf laughing all the way to the bank (as long as he can persuade those 'Appy 'Ammers to shell out...)

    15% over and above what what Arsenal paid

    So assuming all the add ons have kicked in I make that £1.53m

    But only if West Ham do pay £12m in the first place and don't end up swapping him for a West Ham player who both clubs value at 20p
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,251
    cafctom said:

    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    So idiotic the money received played a huge part in us winning the league the following season.
    The sell on money did not. If we get any it can help us get out of league One next season.
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Dazzler21 said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Airman Brown said:

    The Jenkinson fee was £1.5m, plus £250k in add-ons, plus a 15% sell-on (over and above).

    This is what funded the team building in 2012. I was sceptical about that in part because I originally believed the fee was less, but this is reliable.

    So say Arsenal do sell him for 12m, we would get roughly 1.5m of the 10.5m profit?
    £1,575,000.00 - Not bad, could be the wages for a strong Loanee pay for Roland's next holiday.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Surprised they loaned and now wish to sell as he seems to be performing better than Chambers.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,166
    The thing we need to take into account before getting excited about a cut is that this could all be a fiddle. I think Arsenal are only quoting this comedy price on Jenks in order to give themselves leverage in getting Winston Reid. If they quote 12m now then they can get a smaller, more realistic fee for Jenkinson under the logic that Reid contributes something like 4m as a cost himself and Arsenal don't have to wait until summer and risk having other suitors get involved. It might be that Jenks will go there for less in summer and Arsenal will move for Reid on a free then, but the exchange thing is possible. I think Swansea tried a fiddle like this with the Sigurdsson/Vorm and Davies deal to avoid paying a sell-on fee to Utrecht over Vorm.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558
    Henry Irving said:

    Weegie Addick said:

    So 15% of £12M = £1.8M!

    Papa Smurf laughing all the way to the bank (as long as he can persuade those 'Appy 'Ammers to shell out...)

    15% over and above what what Arsenal paid

    So assuming all the add ons have kicked in I make that £1.53m

    But only if West Ham do pay £12m in the first place and don't end up swapping him for a West Ham player who both clubs value at 20p
    on the figures quoted including the add-on's if sold for 12m we would receive £ 1,537,500

  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    If only we had a lawyer working for us who could be on this like a rash.....
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    He's not - trust me
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Solly is hugely overrated, but I love his effort, he puts more into his shift IMO than every other player we have.

    But no he's not as skilful and not as good at cutting out crosses than some RB's in this league.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited January 2015
    Scoham said:

    paulie8290 said:

    @Scoham maybe you can clear up as you are the resident FM expert for us

    the transfer information who supplies that as that might clear this up, as on there it says 20% profit (I just recieved 200k as he moved to West Ham)

    so is the 20% done by you, the arsenal guy or made up by SI

    That was an estimate by me (as were any other clauses), there might not be any sell on clause at all.
    Lol next time can you put cheap buy backs on

    Kermorgant
    Poyet
    Stephens

    And just for fun give us 50% of Pogbas next transfer

    Theres a good lad :smiley:
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    edited January 2015
    Southbank said:

    cafctom said:

    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    So idiotic the money received played a huge part in us winning the league the following season.
    The sell on money did not. If we get any it can help us get out of league One next season.
    Lol. Jenkinson played 7 games for us but effectively saves us from League One on two occasions!
  • OsamaBenHamer
    OsamaBenHamer Posts: 647
    Chris Solly England's right back hahahahaha

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