Bobby Moore & CAFC

Also, given that one of Moore's baptismal names was Chelsea (Yes, I found it hard to believe as well) and, given that the area where Moore lived was also home to near contemporaries Terry Venables, Jimmy Greaves and much later on John Terry, did Chelsea also miss out ?. Dickinson does not mention any particular Chelsea F.C. affiliation on the part of Moore's parents, although there was often a desire for, a dream of life 'Up West' among many East Enders of that era.
Generally the book is a good, very interesting, if sometimes a bleak as well as inspiring read. Moore was a rather secretive man whose friends and relatives even to this day are reluctant to divulge little of what they knew about his foibles and dalliances.
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So what you're saying is........Bobby Moore was a secret Charlton fan.......1
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Does this mean we can take credit for him like West Ham do with Billy Bonds and Jermaine Defoe..and eventually, Diego Poyet?6
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WE WON THE WORLD CUP!!!Its_Hamer_Time said:So what you're saying is........Bobby Moore was a secret Charlton fan.......
at last SOMETHING...5 -
I was wondering if it meant we could now take credit for winning the World Cup !The Red Robin said:Does this mean we can take credit for him like West Ham do with Billy Bonds and Jermaine Defoe..and eventually, Diego Poyet?
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I don't know who was CAFC's defensive genius back in the late 40s/early 50s .. but if he was a big influence on young Bob, then we were instrumental in winning the World Cup in '66 .. ((:>) .. along with Big Bob's dad, Martin Peters0
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I don't think people would like to hear the other side of Bobby Moore. He was a national icon who was not welcome in many places because of the company he kept.0
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Didn't he own a few pubs and clubs that mysteriously burnt down?0
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@masicat care to elaborate0 -
The book goes into these incidents .. not much detail as no-one either knows or is prepared to elaborate .. Dickinson suspects/concludes arson as 'revenge' or jealousy against Moore or his associates rather than insurance scams was the reason behind the fires .. as Masicat says, Moore got into some pretty dubious company in his later years .. remember he died at just 51 years of ageiaitch said:Didn't he own a few pubs and clubs that mysteriously burnt down?
ADD: He and an associate owned the infamous 'Blind Beggar' in Whitechapel for a while amongst several other pubs & clubs .. Moore and his entourage drank most of the profits it seems0 -
The Chelsea bit of his name was nothing to with the fc, a relative had the name0
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So when he lifted the World cup he was lifting it for the addicks nice one Mooro!0
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When he lifted the bracket in Mexico, he did for the spanners.creepyaddick said:So when he lifted the World cup he was lifting it for the addicks nice one Mooro!
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I was told he was refused membership to Chigwell Golf Club and shortly after the Clubhouse burnt down. That may or may not be true, but the source was pretty reliable.
It may of course be a coincidence.0 -
Ronnie O'Sullivan's house backs onto that golf course, just saying like.masicat said:I was told he was refused membership to Chigwell Golf Club and shortly after the Clubhouse burnt down. That may or may not be true, but the source was pretty reliable.
It may of course be a coincidence.0 -
(L to R) Graham Moore of Chelsea, Bobby Moore of West Ham and Eddie Firmani of Charlton model some top hats in 1963.10
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Well, I might claim to be the Addick who "knows" Booby Moore better than any other...
When Mr F first came a' courting back in 1968, my Dad's first words on meeting him were " Blimey! It's Bobby Moore!"
Back in the day, there was a strong resemblance, believe it or not.2 -
going back to the original article I think the poster misses the point. Moore came to WATCH us play, not the other way round. Scouts cant "miss" a talent if all he is doing is standing on the terraces watching a game...........unless he showed off his skills on the pitch at half time.
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@ken from Bexley .. where did you find that !? .. it illustrates a point made in the book that Moore was always VERY fashion conscious and always keen to make a few quid outside of football, what was in those days not a particularly well paid profession0
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On the web..... It is a getty image copyright. I saw it previously when I had an account. If you type in Bobby Moore and Eddie Firmani a couple of interesting things come up besides this photo in google.Lincsaddick said:@ken from Bexley .. where did you find that !? .. it illustrates a point made in the book that Moore was always VERY fashion conscious and always keen to make a few quid outside of football, what was in those days not a particularly well paid profession
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Third pic... they dont make teeth like that anymore..
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Love that first pic - Rodney Marsh, Kenny Lynch, Frank Lampard, Alan Ball, George Best, Supermac and Mooro. Love the artex ceiling and the trappings of late 70s/early 80s England.1
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Picture 2, lovely shirt/tie combos, when will they be back in fashion?1
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Pic 3 .
That's me & Mr F !!2 -
The caption reads....... And here with Kate Howard, who is modeling Norlyn Niknax tights that are “visually protective and take away the need for pants”.Fanny Fanackapan said:Pic 3 .
That's me & Mr F !!
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heard from an ancient hamster a year or so ago who saw bobby moore in the play in the flesh and apparently after 66 the upton park faithful suffered him more than anything. He'd go from doing something damn right brilliant and make a great tackle to making a calamitous error that would almost cost a goal quite regularly and had a bit of friction with the fans because of it.0
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Back to 'the book' .. it seems clear that for various reasons (read the book !!), Moore saved his best for 'big time games', i.e. playing for England. He had a VERY bad relationship with Ron Greenwood, mostly over (yes you guessed it) pahnds shillings and pence .. this was in the pre decimal era of course, after '71 it was just pahnds and pennieskentaddick said:heard from an ancient hamster a year or so ago who saw bobby moore in the play in the flesh and apparently after 66 the upton park faithful suffered him more than anything. He'd go from doing something damn right brilliant and make a great tackle to making a calamitous error that would almost cost a goal quite regularly and had a bit of friction with the fans because of it.
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Interesting article about Moore here, particularly his post playing life
https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,1541919,00.html2