Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
That’s fine if you’re going to judge players on one game, and I agree Dobson is a better player than Docherty. I don’t remember anyone claiming Docherty is better.
Conparing him to Coventry there’s more to it - correct me if I’m wrong but Coventry is generally our deepest midfielder, and Wrexham use Dobson more box to box, as NJ did last season, rather than in that deepest holding role. Coventry could have slotted into that Wrexham team and stepped up no problem.
I think both would compete in the Championship, but both would struggle if they were alongside players like Anderson and Docherty who aren’t at the same level.
People are forgetting that we tried playing Dobson with Coventry and it didn't work, we tried Taylor with Coventry and it didn't work. We have played Coventry with Docherty and it does work. A manager has an idea who fits his plans or at least he should do. golfaddick said:
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
Golfie, for clarification, are you saying our recruitment regarding the forward line was poor at the seasons start or are you saying we should have added to our strike force in January, regardless ?
Both.
Godden was a great addition but Ahadme.....do me a favour. We went into the season with Leaburn still out injured & knowing that Aneke cant last a full game. In fact, as everyone on here acknowledges, Aneke should only be used as a 20-30 "battering ram".
To me that is not a way to start a season. Having (as your fit strike force) just Godden, Ahadme & Kanu. As I say, I'm not counting Aneke as he cant last more than 45 mins and therefore cant be labelled as "fit".
But that's all I'm saying in the subject now. We've been going over & over this issue all season. Let's just agree to disagree.
a lot of analysis on here but its as clear as day to me - small and tc playing on either side, offering a genuine threatr and able to go p[ast players is absolutely critical to our team - either one is out and we do not function - we all knew that and we all said not bringing in another in the window could be our undoing and so it has proved - lets hope they are both fit and firing for the play offs because if they aren't, its game over - it really is that simple
Using TC and Small wide, whether on the right or on the left changed our season from being in the bottom half of the table to a play off team; obviously having the partnership of Lloyd Jones and the most improved player in the team Macca helped as well as Ramsey and the consistent Edwards both being fit. Mannion isn't a liability and only look fragile yesterday as the defence were out of sync and Ramsey and Jones made mistakes yesterday but credit to the quality of Rathbone, James and the impressive Smith who was outstanding. Godden has had a good season but for mainly injury reasons both Leaburn and Kanu didn't make the progress this season I was expecting.
We've had a fantastic 2nd half of the season but we hit a Red wall yesterday and Wrexham proved they were the 2nd best team in League 1 after Birmingham who won this league in a canter similar to Liverpool in the Premier who enjoyed playing Spurs today !
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
1. You’re not happy to eat humble pie. You cry and leave the forum saying people are bullying you.
2. You pitch your posts as ‘I told you’ type affairs when all you do is moan in hindsight.
3. you’re a parody of yourself at this point and so boring it hurts.
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
That’s fine if you’re going to judge players on one game, and I agree Dobson is a better player than Docherty. I don’t remember anyone claiming Docherty is better.
Conparing him to Coventry there’s more to it - correct me if I’m wrong but Coventry is generally our deepest midfielder, and Wrexham use Dobson more box to box, as NJ did last season, rather than in that deepest holding role. Coventry could have slotted into that Wrexham team and stepped up no problem.
I think both would compete in the Championship, but both would struggle if they were alongside players like Anderson and Docherty who aren’t at the same level.
People are forgetting that we tried playing Dobson with Coventry and it didn't work, we tried Taylor with Coventry and it didn't work. We have played Coventry with Docherty and it does work. A manager has an idea who fits his plans or at least he should do. golfaddick said:
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
Golfie, for clarification, are you saying our recruitment regarding the forward line was poor at the seasons start or are you saying we should have added to our strike force in January, regardless ?
Both.
Godden was a great addition but Ahadme.....do me a favour. We went into the season with Leaburn still out injured & knowing that Aneke cant last a full game. In fact, as everyone on here acknowledges, Aneke should only be used as a 20-30 "battering ram".
To me that is not a way to start a season. Having (as your fit strike force) just Godden, Ahadme & Kanu. As I say, I'm not counting Aneke as he cant last more than 45 mins and therefore cant be labelled as "fit".
But that's all I'm saying in the subject now. We've been going over & over this issue all season. Let's just agree to disagree.
People can moan about Golfie being negative all they like, but tell me one part there that’s wrong. He’s spot on.
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Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
That’s fine if you’re going to judge players on one game, and I agree Dobson is a better player than Docherty. I don’t remember anyone claiming Docherty is better.
Conparing him to Coventry there’s more to it - correct me if I’m wrong but Coventry is generally our deepest midfielder, and Wrexham use Dobson more box to box, as NJ did last season, rather than in that deepest holding role. Coventry could have slotted into that Wrexham team and stepped up no problem.
I think both would compete in the Championship, but both would struggle if they were alongside players like Anderson and Docherty who aren’t at the same level.
People are forgetting that we tried playing Dobson with Coventry and it didn't work, we tried Taylor with Coventry and it didn't work. We have played Coventry with Docherty and it does work. A manager has an idea who fits his plans or at least he should do. golfaddick said:
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
Golfie, for clarification, are you saying our recruitment regarding the forward line was poor at the seasons start or are you saying we should have added to our strike force in January, regardless ?
Both.
Godden was a great addition but Ahadme.....do me a favour. We went into the season with Leaburn still out injured & knowing that Aneke cant last a full game. In fact, as everyone on here acknowledges, Aneke should only be used as a 20-30 "battering ram".
To me that is not a way to start a season. Having (as your fit strike force) just Godden, Ahadme & Kanu. As I say, I'm not counting Aneke as he cant last more than 45 mins and therefore cant be labelled as "fit".
But that's all I'm saying in the subject now. We've been going over & over this issue all season. Let's just agree to disagree.
People can moan about Golfie being negative all they like, but tell me one part there that’s wrong. He’s spot on.
I don’t moan about him being wrong. We all get things wrong from time to time.
I moan about him being an insufferable ‘told you so’ attention seeker.
He dishes out opinion after opinion predominantly driven by hindsight as if he’s some sort of oracle and then cries about being challenged on it when he’s wrong.
Like I said he’s almost a comedic take of himself now without any apparent irony
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
1. You’re not happy to eat humble pie. You cry and leave the forum saying people are bullying you.
2. You pitch your posts as ‘I told you’ type affairs when all you do is moan in hindsight.
3. you’re a parody of yourself at this point and so boring it hurts.
What I take the greatest pleasure from is that you care so much about me that you troll hunt my posts after every match. I'm touched.....I really am 😊.
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
1. You’re not happy to eat humble pie. You cry and leave the forum saying people are bullying you.
2. You pitch your posts as ‘I told you’ type affairs when all you do is moan in hindsight.
3. you’re a parody of yourself at this point and so boring it hurts.
What I take the greatest pleasure from is that you care so much about me that you troll hunt my posts after every match. I'm touched.....I really am 😊.
It’s difficult to miss you. The sheer volume of dross you pump out makes it easy to find
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
That’s fine if you’re going to judge players on one game, and I agree Dobson is a better player than Docherty. I don’t remember anyone claiming Docherty is better.
Conparing him to Coventry there’s more to it - correct me if I’m wrong but Coventry is generally our deepest midfielder, and Wrexham use Dobson more box to box, as NJ did last season, rather than in that deepest holding role. Coventry could have slotted into that Wrexham team and stepped up no problem.
I think both would compete in the Championship, but both would struggle if they were alongside players like Anderson and Docherty who aren’t at the same level.
People are forgetting that we tried playing Dobson with Coventry and it didn't work, we tried Taylor with Coventry and it didn't work. We have played Coventry with Docherty and it does work. A manager has an idea who fits his plans or at least he should do. golfaddick said:
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
Golfie, for clarification, are you saying our recruitment regarding the forward line was poor at the seasons start or are you saying we should have added to our strike force in January, regardless ?
Both.
Godden was a great addition but Ahadme.....do me a favour. We went into the season with Leaburn still out injured & knowing that Aneke cant last a full game. In fact, as everyone on here acknowledges, Aneke should only be used as a 20-30 "battering ram".
To me that is not a way to start a season. Having (as your fit strike force) just Godden, Ahadme & Kanu. As I say, I'm not counting Aneke as he cant last more than 45 mins and therefore cant be labelled as "fit".
But that's all I'm saying in the subject now. We've been going over & over this issue all season. Let's just agree to disagree.
People can moan about Golfie being negative all they like, but tell me one part there that’s wrong. He’s spot on.
Well he failed to mention our biggest attacking threat so that’s one part
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
Coventry is better than Dobson at the holding role. Wrexham don’t even use him there and neither did Jones, preferring Coventry, because Dobson doesn’t have the positional discipline for it
Dobson is probably better than Docherty
Though it is a lot easier for Dobson to be good when he has 2 experienced championship midfielders next to him. He’s the 3rd best midfielder in Wrexhams team
Why do people keep bringing up Dobson and May whenever we lose. Yes, we probably should have kept Dobson. In hindsight, selling May was probably the correct move. Regardless, we are a better team now without both of them
Based on what?
FotMob have him with the highest ranking of all Wrexham's midfielders year to date with an average rating of 7.24 so I would be interested to know where you arrived at 3rd best midfielder at Wrexham from.
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
Coventry is better than Dobson at the holding role. Wrexham don’t even use him there and neither did Jones, preferring Coventry, because Dobson doesn’t have the positional discipline for it
Dobson is probably better than Docherty
Though it is a lot easier for Dobson to be good when he has 2 experienced championship midfielders next to him. He’s the 3rd best midfielder in Wrexhams team
Why do people keep bringing up Dobson and May whenever we lose. Yes, we probably should have kept Dobson. In hindsight, selling May was probably the correct move. Regardless, we are a better team now without both of them
Based on what?
FotMob have him with the highest ranking of all Wrexham's midfielders year to date with an average rating of 7.24 so I would be interested to know where you arrived at 3rd best midfielder at Wrexham from.
Based on watching them maybe? A 0.02 decimal point difference on what is a flawed rating system is not really evidence.
Rathbone is their best player in my opinion, certainly seen a few comments from their fans that he is their player of the season which is usually a good indicator as they’ll have watched every game.
Dobson even got dropped recently so I would say he’s at best 2nd but probably 3rd in their midfield pecking order. It is a very good midfield trio though
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
Coventry is better than Dobson at the holding role. Wrexham don’t even use him there and neither did Jones, preferring Coventry, because Dobson doesn’t have the positional discipline for it
Dobson is probably better than Docherty
Though it is a lot easier for Dobson to be good when he has 2 experienced championship midfielders next to him. He’s the 3rd best midfielder in Wrexhams team
Why do people keep bringing up Dobson and May whenever we lose. Yes, we probably should have kept Dobson. In hindsight, selling May was probably the correct move. Regardless, we are a better team now without both of them
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
Coventry is better than Dobson at the holding role. Wrexham don’t even use him there and neither did Jones, preferring Coventry, because Dobson doesn’t have the positional discipline for it
Dobson is probably better than Docherty
Though it is a lot easier for Dobson to be good when he has 2 experienced championship midfielders next to him. He’s the 3rd best midfielder in Wrexhams team
Why do people keep bringing up Dobson and May whenever we lose. Yes, we probably should have kept Dobson. In hindsight, selling May was probably the correct move. Regardless, we are a better team now without both of them
Based on what?
FotMob have him with the highest ranking of all Wrexham's midfielders year to date with an average rating of 7.24 so I would be interested to know where you arrived at 3rd best midfielder at Wrexham from.
Based on watching them maybe? A 0.02 decimal point difference on what is a flawed rating system is not really evidence.
Rathbone is their best player in my opinion, certainly seen a few comments from their fans that he is their player of the season which is usually a good indicator as they’ll have watched every game.
Dobson even got dropped recently so I would say he’s at best 2nd but probably 3rd in their midfield pecking order. It is a very good midfield trio though
The Not the top 20 guys are big fans of Rathbone too. A decent fee (500k ish) but within the norms of L1.
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
That’s fine if you’re going to judge players on one game, and I agree Dobson is a better player than Docherty. I don’t remember anyone claiming Docherty is better.
Conparing him to Coventry there’s more to it - correct me if I’m wrong but Coventry is generally our deepest midfielder, and Wrexham use Dobson more box to box, as NJ did last season, rather than in that deepest holding role. Coventry could have slotted into that Wrexham team and stepped up no problem.
I think both would compete in the Championship, but both would struggle if they were alongside players like Anderson and Docherty who aren’t at the same level.
People are forgetting that we tried playing Dobson with Coventry and it didn't work, we tried Taylor with Coventry and it didn't work. We have played Coventry with Docherty and it does work. A manager has an idea who fits his plans or at least he should do. golfaddick said:
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
Golfie, for clarification, are you saying our recruitment regarding the forward line was poor at the seasons start or are you saying we should have added to our strike force in January, regardless ?
Both.
Godden was a great addition but Ahadme.....do me a favour. We went into the season with Leaburn still out injured & knowing that Aneke cant last a full game. In fact, as everyone on here acknowledges, Aneke should only be used as a 20-30 "battering ram".
To me that is not a way to start a season. Having (as your fit strike force) just Godden, Ahadme & Kanu. As I say, I'm not counting Aneke as he cant last more than 45 mins and therefore cant be labelled as "fit".
But that's all I'm saying in the subject now. We've been going over & over this issue all season. Let's just agree to disagree.
OK, I agree with the start of the season part Golfie, I was actually complaining that we bought Ahadme, who's strength, allegedly, was in the air and we didn't cross to him, and in the system we play now it's unlikely that he would be the first in the striking position. As for Chuks, that's down to the daft contract that Sandgaard negotiated. Miles Leaburn, no pre-season after a long lay off, I agree an absolute risk. So we were left with Kanu, Godden and Campbell. According to the wage list that's available for the seasons start, Ahadme, Miles and Chuks collective weekly wage amounts to almost £15000, balance that against Alfie May's £7400 at Birmingham and Matt Godden's £8000 for us. Perhaps it's not a case of not enough strikers but too many who were not going to make a difference whatever the circumstances.
Anyone saying Coventry or Doherty are better than Dobson well there was your answer yesterday….they were anonymous
That’s fine if you’re going to judge players on one game, and I agree Dobson is a better player than Docherty. I don’t remember anyone claiming Docherty is better.
Conparing him to Coventry there’s more to it - correct me if I’m wrong but Coventry is generally our deepest midfielder, and Wrexham use Dobson more box to box, as NJ did last season, rather than in that deepest holding role. Coventry could have slotted into that Wrexham team and stepped up no problem.
I think both would compete in the Championship, but both would struggle if they were alongside players like Anderson and Docherty who aren’t at the same level.
People are forgetting that we tried playing Dobson with Coventry and it didn't work, we tried Taylor with Coventry and it didn't work. We have played Coventry with Docherty and it does work. A manager has an idea who fits his plans or at least he should do. golfaddick said:
As I pointed out, Mullin and Palmer joined Wrexham in the National League. The more surprising thing is not that they didnt' make the starting XI yesterday, but that they still both played significant roles in getting the team to the brink of the Championship. Two more that have played significant roles are Elliott Lee and Eoghan O'Connell, both deemed by most fans to be not good enough for us when we were crap (I was one re Lee, but I thought O'Connell was unlucky with that injury and the chaos around him). And of course the current manager started with them in the NL too. Wrexham therefore are not Birmingham. There is a fabric to that club which has been built up over the last four seasons in a quiet, professional way. The Hollywood stuff has been kept quite separate. It brings in the money which is handed over to the football pros. I agree with you that with so many very senior players on their books their summer window will be challenging.
I don't know how best to answer your last sentence. What you will find is that, happy as I was, I was not one of those saying "no reason why we can't go and do something similar at Wrexham". Aneke's (unjust) red card was a major reason why I was cautious, because I knew we had no replacement who can bring what he brings. I like how Mbick is shaping up, but that was way too big an ask for an 18 year old yesterday. In the Jan window we all hoped Miles would come good and kick on. But hope alone doesn't get you promotion, you always need a plan B, and up front we don't have one now.
My criticism Prague, especially of Golfies posts are that as soon as we lose, it's blamed on not buying strikers in the January window. You posted a few weeks back that you agreed with Golfie about our lack of goalscoring, until I pointed out that in the second half of the season we'd scored more than Wycombe and Wrexham. If there is a criticism of how we progressed through the season, it's probably that we took time to gel the side together and struggled to find goals in that time. To state that we should have paid millions in January to improve our goal scoring when we have scored more than both Wrexham and Wycombe doesn't make any sense, and to state that we lost yesterday because we didn't sign another forward in January is worse. That being the position that you and Golfie take, please tell me, who should we have scored more than ?
Over 45 games we have scored less goals than any of the top 6 teams. In fact, there are only 2 teams in the top half of the table who have scored less goals than us.
And although it has been pointed out to me that GD does not usually matter when it comes to promotion or the play offs, we snatched 3rd on the final day in 2019 due to GD and this season we might have missed out on promotoon due to it as at 5.30 pm yesterday our GD was worse than Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
I am happy to eat humble pie when it is approproare, but if you really think that going into the play offs with Mbick (5 league appearance - 0 goals) and Kanu (58 league appearances - 7 goals) is the recipe for success then thats your choice.
It was obvious to anyone in January that we needed to strengthen in attacking areas - both up front & out wide. The club (according to NJ) were happy to run with less players & to rely on the youth if needs be. Well needs be and the youth (imo) are not up to it.
I'm not saying we should have bought Sam Smith but I'm sure there were less expensive & more experienced strikers out there in the summer / january than what we brought on yesterday.
And if you say we had 6 strikers already are you counting Hylton (who we only signed initially as an emergency) and the unfit Aneke who cant play more than 30 mins and certainly cant start a game.
There is a poem titled...." for want of a nail" and I fear our season will end accordingly with the words..." for the want of a striker".
Golfie, for clarification, are you saying our recruitment regarding the forward line was poor at the seasons start or are you saying we should have added to our strike force in January, regardless ?
Both.
Godden was a great addition but Ahadme.....do me a favour. We went into the season with Leaburn still out injured & knowing that Aneke cant last a full game. In fact, as everyone on here acknowledges, Aneke should only be used as a 20-30 "battering ram".
To me that is not a way to start a season. Having (as your fit strike force) just Godden, Ahadme & Kanu. As I say, I'm not counting Aneke as he cant last more than 45 mins and therefore cant be labelled as "fit".
But that's all I'm saying in the subject now. We've been going over & over this issue all season. Let's just agree to disagree.
Plus Godden was clearly not fit enough to play a full game for quite some time.
I was as disappointed as anyone with the performance & final score BUT after having had time to reflect on the situation I’m looking for the positives rather than the negatives. The Wrexham game was the always the outside chance of us sneaking into 2nd place. Circumstances meant we weren’t in the same shape as the Wycombe game, not least the Wycombe game being one of the reasons why that was the case , with injuries to vital players like Berry & Small, and a far from fit Lloyd Jones. Nathan Jones was spot on when he called it one game too far. Our run since Crawley at home has been nothing short of incredible & we achieved something in getting a play off spot that most fans after that Crawley game would have thought impossible. So , as we all know the play offs are basically a mini cup competition where anything can happen & results over a season can almost be disregarded. Having said that, the team spirit built up with a good run does count for something, so what we now need is all of our players to be in the best possible fitness & frame of mind. Forget the Wrexham result. It now means nothing. We now focus on the competition we have qualified for. I would say I’m slightly wary of both Stockport & Orient as they both have a frame of mind with the positive results they have achieved when seemingly up against it , so we have to match that positivity, starting with a win against Burton, and then it’s up to Nathan Jones to get the team up for the vital play off games coming up. Not that he should have any problem doing that of course. These games are what these players have busted a gut for to be in & I believe Jones won’t settle for any less than 100% effort as a minimum. There is no reason to think we can’t carry on the form that got us to touching distance of the automatic places & what we need is everyone to believe in the team & give them the famous Charlton roar ! Negativity is banned !
It’s taken a long long time but it’s a fact that we started the season without a fully fit top L1 level striker.
Godden was not fit enough to play a full game.
Ahadme is not good enough.
Kanu at present is not good enough.
Aneke is capable of 45 mins, maximum.
TC is not a striker.
Leaburn was not fit.
Hylton is not capable of playing a full game.
Not trying to be a dick either as the argument has been done to death, but there were people saying the January window isn't a proper window, and there wasn't value to be made, it's a sellers market etc.
Well, Wrexhams January marquee signing absolutely destroyed us yesterday and put in what was imo the best individual display against us all season. He's won them promotion on the day.
Smith also battered us at Reading away.
Despite all the posts that it isn't just all about money, this season has proven it mostly is, across all leagues as well.
If it was all about money then surely Huddersfield & Gillingham would be being promoted, Carlisle wouldn’t be being relegated and Orient & Reading wouldn’t be in the play offs. You have to spend whatever money you have well not just spend it
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Godden was a great addition but Ahadme.....do me a favour. We went into the season with Leaburn still out injured & knowing that Aneke cant last a full game. In fact, as everyone on here acknowledges, Aneke should only be used as a 20-30 "battering ram".
To me that is not a way to start a season. Having (as your fit strike force) just Godden, Ahadme & Kanu. As I say, I'm not counting Aneke as he cant last more than 45 mins and therefore cant be labelled as "fit".
But that's all I'm saying in the subject now. We've been going over & over this issue all season. Let's just agree to disagree.
Using TC and Small wide, whether on the right or on the left changed our season from being in the bottom half of the table to a play off team; obviously having the partnership of Lloyd Jones and the most improved player in the team Macca helped as well as Ramsey and the consistent Edwards both being fit. Mannion isn't a liability and only look fragile yesterday as the defence were out of sync and Ramsey and Jones made mistakes yesterday but credit to the quality of Rathbone, James and the impressive Smith who was outstanding. Godden has had a good season but for mainly injury reasons both Leaburn and Kanu didn't make the progress this season I was expecting.
We've had a fantastic 2nd half of the season but we hit a Red wall yesterday and Wrexham proved they were the 2nd best team in League 1 after Birmingham who won this league in a canter similar to Liverpool in the Premier who enjoyed playing Spurs today !
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Saludos desde Madrid 😎 ☀️.
Based on what?
FotMob have him with the highest ranking of all Wrexham's midfielders year to date with an average rating of 7.24 so I would be interested to know where you arrived at 3rd best midfielder at Wrexham from.
One thing you can't say they don't have, is style.
without Charlton, May and Dobson improved their new teams standing even more
Godden was not fit enough to play a full game.
Ahadme is not good enough.
Kanu at present is not good enough.
Aneke is capable of 45 mins, maximum.
TC is not a striker.
Leaburn was not fit.
Hylton is not capable of playing a full game.
Well, Wrexhams January marquee signing absolutely destroyed us yesterday and put in what was imo the best individual display against us all season. He's won them promotion on the day.
Smith also battered us at Reading away.
Despite all the posts that it isn't just all about money, this season has proven it mostly is, across all leagues as well.
I don’t think the problem with our season (which might still turn out to be a successful one btw) was the January transfer window…