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Pope Francis - RIP

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  • Personally not a fan of religion of any kind and the Catholic church in particular. But he was as good a Pope as you could get, he lived the key values of Jesus' teaching that much of modern Christianity just ignores - showing kindness and love to all, inclusivity, caring for the poor, fighting for the marginalised, fighting injustice, welcoming immigrants. He used his platform to speak these truths to those in power and call out injustice where he saw it. For that he got my respect. RIP

    I expect we will get a "traditionalist" Pope next that ignores those key principles of Jesus teachings. Will likely spread hate instead of love as much of modern christianity does, will be worse for marginalised groups such as LGBTQ people. The world will be a much worse place for it. 
    It is interesting that you think that. I was surprised to find out that Pope Francis himself has appointed 80% of the elector Cardinals eligible to vote in Conclave (108 of 135). 

    That does not mean a pope sharing Pope Francis' progressive views will be appointed but it will likely make it difficult for eg one of the vehemently opposed to any form of LGBTQ cardinals from eg the African branches of the catholic church to be appointed. 


  • Personally not a fan of religion of any kind and the Catholic church in particular. But he was as good a Pope as you could get, he lived the key values of Jesus' teaching that much of modern Christianity just ignores - showing kindness and love to all, inclusivity, caring for the poor, fighting for the marginalised, fighting injustice, welcoming immigrants. He used his platform to speak these truths to those in power and call out injustice where he saw it. For that he got my respect. RIP

    I expect we will get a "traditionalist" Pope next that ignores those key principles of Jesus teachings. Will likely spread hate instead of love as much of modern christianity does, will be worse for marginalised groups such as LGBTQ people. The world will be a much worse place for it. 
    It is interesting that you think that. I was surprised to find out that Pope Francis himself has appointed 80% of the elector Cardinals eligible to vote in Conclave (108 of 135). 

    That does not mean a pope sharing Pope Francis' progressive views will be appointed but it will likely make it difficult for eg one of the vehemently opposed to any form of LGBTQ cardinals from eg the African branches of the catholic church to be appointed. 


    Interesting. A few things I've read were suggesting that outside political influence might innsome way affect it but here's hoping we get another like Pope Francis.
  • Cardinals gather in the Pauline Chapel before they head to the Sistine to form a conclave.  (From 2013).  




    RIP.

  • In the modern world I know that people like ‘influencers’ on the internet.
    In the past religions have been influencers, and still influence hundreds of millions today.
    It looks like a short cut to avoid thinking for yourself a lot of the time, but can’t be ignored or underestimated.
  • Not a religious person (any more), but goodnight Francis.   Thank you for all your work championing the causes of those with nothing, physically or vocally.  

  • I’ve got a fiver on the next being Pope Nick.  

    Not sure where that’s come from though. 
  • edited April 23
    Presumably Trump will fancy his chances in any upcoming conclave?

    Having eased back on the war in Ukraine, the cost-of-living in the US, Greenland, Nobel prize etc, he needs a new drum to beat.

    The USA has a huge deficit in Roman Catholics compared to many other countries, so what could be better than Pope Donald of Vatican, Louisiana?

    MARCA.

    You heard it here first.
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