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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,976
    Cawley saying the the Kelman fee is around 3m.

    So are we therefore assuming the 3.5m rising to 5m with add ons that Fabrizio reported is total bollocks?
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 999
    I'm sure if we made very few signings you would have posted more frequently : )
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,325
    Given how Jones said we'd picked our targets regardless if we were a Championship or League One club next season... You have to wonder

    (1) Who wouldn't have joined us had we not gone up, from the current group of signings.

    (2) If we were spending this sort of money in League One next season, we'd surely have gone up.
    Kelman - No chance as we wouldn't have spent the money.
    Apter - same as above.
    Kaminski - same as above, plus Mannion was fine for league 1.
    Olaofe - maybe could've got him but if there were Championship clubs interested then i doubt it.
    JRC - probably wouldn't have dropped down a league.
    Carey - i think he was a done deal regardless of the division.
    Bell/Burke - may well have signed regardless because of the connection with Jones.
    The narrative of "our targets are the same no matter the league" was to play down the Wembley game imo, and how massive it actually was for our transfer window.

    Not a chance these would have been attainable targets in league 1. That promotion has changed our trajectory. 

    We would be without Ramsay and TC at a minimum, and would have signed maybe Carey and the ex-Luton lads at a push. No chance we land Kelman, Apter and are in for Knibbs.
  • Dannoo_86
    Dannoo_86 Posts: 727
    Well done all involved this transfer window definitely no lack of ambition at the club at the moment. COYR’s!! 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    I've been rather quite on this thread this window but can I finally say.......I think we might just have made some decent signings for once.

    No idea how they will all fit in & team selection will be a nightmare. But that's not my problem !


    This isn’t a dig mate but if your being quiet I take that as a sure sign it’s been a good window lol
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,192
    MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    And £4m back then was decent money too
    Trying to remember the other signings bar Diawara that summer? Think he was another £3.5m but now my minds gone blank on the rest 
    Tbf Diawara was a good player and deserved more recognition than he got. 
    Diawara was actually good and went on to have a good career afterwards. Not his fault that £3.5m for us back then was a very very significant fee. 
    Was his fault he was a drunk
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,016
    Dannoo_86 said:
    Well done all involved this transfer window definitely no lack of ambition at the club at the moment. COYR’s!! 

    . "Ba-da-ba-ba-baaa"  I’m Lovin It…😁
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,953
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    If I remember right, at the time Dowie was appointed, there was a new TV deal agreed - with significantly increased payments to Prem League clubs.
    Justifying our big spending, didn't Richard Murray say something along the lines that it was' vital Charlton stayed in the Prem'?

    We all know how that turned out.



  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,378
    Exciting transfer window but bookies still have us to be relegated 
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  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    wmcf123 said:
    TeeC said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
    They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that 
    Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
    He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played.  Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January.  Talented, yes . 
    This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.   
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,017
    MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    And £4m back then was decent money too
    Trying to remember the other signings bar Diawara that summer? Think he was another £3.5m but now my minds gone blank on the rest 
    Tbf Diawara was a good player and deserved more recognition than he got. 
    Diawara was actually good and went on to have a good career afterwards. Not his fault that £3.5m for us back then was a very very significant fee. 
    Was his fault he was a drunk
    Never knew this! 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,598
    Oggy Red said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    If I remember right, at the time Dowie was appointed, there was a new TV deal agreed - with significantly increased payments to Prem League clubs.
    Justifying our big spending, didn't Richard Murray say something along the lines that it was' vital Charlton stayed in the Prem'?

    We all know how that turned out.



    Yes, Murray said the next tv Prem deal was going to be massive so that coming season was not the one to get relegated in.

    So then he appointed Dowie to get back at Simon Jordan. The rest, as the say, is history.
  • PeakieRocket
    PeakieRocket Posts: 2,418
    Oggy Red said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    If I remember right, at the time Dowie was appointed, there was a new TV deal agreed - with significantly increased payments to Prem League clubs.
    Justifying our big spending, didn't Richard Murray say something along the lines that it was' vital Charlton stayed in the Prem'?

    We all know how that turned out.



    I think the new deal came in the season after Dowie’s appointment. The money they gave him was an attempt to ensure we stayed in the Prem for when it kicked in. The rest is history…
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,953
    Scoham said:
    robroy said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    And £4m back then was decent money too
    Trying to remember the other signings bar Diawara that summer? Think he was another £3.5m but now my minds gone blank on the rest 
    We spent £12 million that window. 
    We’ll have spent around that this summer if we get Knibbs, and maybe over it if we sign 1 or 2 more.
    Including add-ons, £12m probably what all the deals in total could be worth.

    But most of the fees will be paid in instalments spread over the length of each contract.
    Only the instalments so far actually paid will be included in this year's accounts.

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,493
    Exciting transfer window but bookies still have us to be relegated 
     It what a team in league one .. champions 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 999
    Another post on reading forum saying us 2.5 for knibbs 🧐
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    MarcusH26 said:
    jose said:
    They had to sign Kelman to make up for the disappointment of losing Ahadme.
    You joke, but two seasons ago we would have been the club selling Kelman and bringing in Ahadme.

    Whoever is responsible for steering the new owners in the right direction and splashing the cash is a God. 
    Would expect it's probably got a lot to do with Gavin Carter now being their man on the ground and getting Chapple in to replace Andy Scott. 
    The massive increase in the budget is nothing to do with Scott or Chapple, they just deal with the budget they are given.

    Indeed NJ has surely driven nearly all these signings,  considering the number who either played against us in L1 or played for him at Luton.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,493
    Bailey said:
    wmcf123 said:
    TeeC said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
    They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that 
    Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
    He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played.  Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January.  Talented, yes . 
    This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.   
    And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months … 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,333
    ButtleJR said:


    would be happy with this against Watford!  Few headaches in there. 
    I can’t see Godden not starting but either way, that’s pretty close I’d say.
    Can't see us playing Kelman & Godden together unless we have to. Interesting that Kelman says NJ told him he'll play every game. 
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  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,148
    Chunes said:
    ButtleJR said:


    would be happy with this against Watford!  Few headaches in there. 
    I can’t see Godden not starting but either way, that’s pretty close I’d say.
    Can't see us playing Kelman & Godden together unless we have to. Interesting that Kelman says NJ told him he'll play every game. 
    I think that was referring to what Wellens told Kelman at the start of last season, though it was a bit unclear.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,192
    Bailey said:
    wmcf123 said:
    TeeC said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
    They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that 
    Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
    He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played.  Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January.  Talented, yes . 
    This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.   
    And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months … 
    Even for you that is an incredibly inaccurate post.

    Curbs had no say after he left.

    Dowie had too much say, signing players from agents he was "mates" with.  I wonder why?

    M Bent was never on £22k a week.  I still have the spreadsheet of the wages from that time at home somewhere.  No one was on that much.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,275
    MarcusH26 said:
    jose said:
    They had to sign Kelman to make up for the disappointment of losing Ahadme.
    You joke, but two seasons ago we would have been the club selling Kelman and bringing in Ahadme.

    Whoever is responsible for steering the new owners in the right direction and splashing the cash is a God. 
    Would expect it's probably got a lot to do with Gavin Carter now being their man on the ground and getting Chapple in to replace Andy Scott. 
    The massive increase in the budget is nothing to do with Scott or Chapple, they just deal with the budget they are given.

    Indeed NJ has surely driven nearly all these signings,  considering the number who either played against us in L1 or played for him at Luton.
    The massive increase in budget is because we will make at least £10m more this season in revenue. If we hadn’t been promoted, I would assume the budget would have been pretty similar to last seasons. Plus if we didn’t spend like this we’d likely be heading straight back to league 1 so it was a no brainer 



  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Bailey said:
    wmcf123 said:
    TeeC said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
    They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that 
    Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
    He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played.  Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January.  Talented, yes . 
    This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.   
    And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months … 
    That's how I had it Ronnie. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,953
    Redrobo said:
    Here we go!


    Imagine if its for both Knibbs and Kelman...
    We would all have a Mendonca in Asdas morning

    You perhaps now mean, Kelman in Asdas morning?  :)
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,192
    Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    wmcf123 said:
    TeeC said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Talal said:
    NabySarr said:
    Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it 
    We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
    Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about 


    Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
    I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much. 
    Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
    They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that 
    Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
    He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played.  Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January.  Talented, yes . 
    This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.   
    And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months … 
    That's how I had it Ronnie. 
    It's not true.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,035
    edited July 27
    Chunes said:
    ButtleJR said:


    would be happy with this against Watford!  Few headaches in there. 
    I can’t see Godden not starting but either way, that’s pretty close I’d say.
    Can't see us playing Kelman & Godden together unless we have to. Interesting that Kelman says NJ told him he'll play every game. 
    That was Kelman talking about Wellens last season, not Nathan now.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,325
    edited July 27
    Steven81 said:
    Another post on reading forum saying us 2.5 for knibbs 🧐
    https://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=192264&hilit=Harvey+Knibbs&start=40

    Source of the post 

    Reading between the lines here, maybe if that bid was true, we did it to beat off (don't post the gif ffs) Portsmouth & Wrexhams interest?

    2.5 million if true is a great return for Reading who picked him up on a free, but he does really improve us and we could do with his goals. I think it's good value for us both.

    I've asked Rich on twitter and he hasn't denied it yet, which I now see as a good sign when he goes quiet.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    I bet QPR upped the price of Kelman to gain revenge for us selling them Macauley Bonne for 2.5 million. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Cawley saying the the Kelman fee is around 3m.

    So are we therefore assuming the 3.5m rising to 5m with add ons that Fabrizio reported is total bollocks?
    Fabrizio/agent mouthpiece talking bollocks? Never.