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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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Honestly I think that's pretty accurate. There's a difference between spending a lot and spending well and I think that the business so far shows that there is definitely a plan that we are working towards.daveydanger said:Yesterday’s 2nd Tier podcast was a review of all Championship transfer business. Kaminski was in their top 5 transfer picks and Carey made the honourable mentions list. Charlton called out as having “one of the better transfer windows so far”.
If that plan works or not is admittedly still yet to be seen but its hard to see this window ending with desperate last minute signing of any old shit in order to start the season with enough bodies, as we've had in the not that distant past.11 -
That is cope. PNE fans are extremely excited about Small from what they've seen already, and other fans that saw the Liverpool friendly are also saying what a player he looks.No.1 in South London said:I know it's a pre-season friendly, but he should be using the game to make the best first impression.
Check out Liverpools first goal in their friendly against PNE this afternoon and you will see Small's shortcoming........ his lack of nouse and effort when required to defend!!
No issues with him as a forward threat but unless he takes his defensive responsibilities more seriously then he will not realise his potential and forever be a frustration for his managers/coaches.
If he was a new signing for us we'd be equally excited. Let's be honest, he's a rare player thats got pace, skill and strength.25 -
That's all true but I can't help thinking that, if NJ really wanted badly to keep him, we would have pushed the boat out much more than appears to be the casebalham red said:
That is cope. PNE fans are extremely excited about Small from what they've seen already, and other fans that saw the Liverpool friendly are also saying what a player he looks.No.1 in South London said:I know it's a pre-season friendly, but he should be using the game to make the best first impression.
Check out Liverpools first goal in their friendly against PNE this afternoon and you will see Small's shortcoming........ his lack of nouse and effort when required to defend!!
No issues with him as a forward threat but unless he takes his defensive responsibilities more seriously then he will not realise his potential and forever be a frustration for his managers/coaches.
If he was a new signing for us we'd be equally excited. Let's be honest, he's a rare player thats got pace, skill and strength.2 -
Just out of interest, when did ‘cope’ become a noun?8
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Exactly who cares - it actually shows that we have owners who are investing in our club and working to a strategy of long term sustainability. Investing in young talent, long term deals, developing them and being competitive. Not bank rolling the club like previous owners before Sandgard who saved us from the depths of possible extinction. Be joyous in these moments and be grateful we've got our Charlton back !!! (I am loving every minute - especially to think we are beating other clubs to these players and Jones is building a wonderful football club once again)Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)6 -
Don't forget that the first few pre season friendlies are very often played after a morning of pretty heavy pre season running.
Very difficult to judge any performance when you're starting a game with 10k of sprints in the legs already. Those games are there to put people through the ringer physically rather than for the player to impress a new set of fans18 -
It can be both. He's got all the physical attributes and ability to go very far indeed, but perhaps he is a bit too much of a maverick for Jones’s liking. Jones likes disciplined players who fit into a system, which Small was not - a different manager might value him for the exact same reason.charente addick said:
That's all true but I can't help thinking that, if NJ really wanted badly to keep him, we would have pushed the boat out much more than appears to be the casebalham red said:
That is cope. PNE fans are extremely excited about Small from what they've seen already, and other fans that saw the Liverpool friendly are also saying what a player he looks.No.1 in South London said:I know it's a pre-season friendly, but he should be using the game to make the best first impression.
Check out Liverpools first goal in their friendly against PNE this afternoon and you will see Small's shortcoming........ his lack of nouse and effort when required to defend!!
No issues with him as a forward threat but unless he takes his defensive responsibilities more seriously then he will not realise his potential and forever be a frustration for his managers/coaches.
If he was a new signing for us we'd be equally excited. Let's be honest, he's a rare player thats got pace, skill and strength.1 -
I wonder if there's a way of finding out which players have gone to training camp this week and which players were not on the plane and are are left behind to train at Sparrows Lane???2
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Probably a mixture of stalking players socials and any videos the club put out 🤣TheAddicks4Ever said:I wonder if there's a way of finding out which players have gone to training camp this week and which players were not on the plane and are are left behind to train at Sparrows Lane???8 -
The use of "cope" as a noun, specifically in the sense of a self-delusion or a coping mechanism clung to in a hopeless situation, appears to be a more recent development, largely emerging from internet slang, particularly within "incel slang" initially.Uboat said:Just out of interest, when did ‘cope’ become a noun?2 -
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Because fanbases encompass a large variety of people and most of them are lunatics. When we don't spend enough on fees we're skint, same if we don't spend enough on wages. If we spend a decent amount on a player someone else will pipe up and say we've wasted money even when we don't know what the actual fee is or its structure. Sign a free player? Why was he released if he's so good? Sign a player from a lower division? Can't step up. Sign someone from a division above? Player is on his way down. Any player at all? Find negative comments on social media and present them as a fair summary on the player even though we can't even get a consensus on here about our own players. Basically, life is hell and the internet was a mistake.Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)45 -
But there is a budget and it’s important that money is spent wisely because the investment made by our owners must be seen to be moving us forward. Spending money without thought or good reason is just plain stupid.TheAddicks4Ever said:
Exactly who cares - it actually shows that we have owners who are investing in our club and working to a strategy of long term sustainability. Investing in young talent, long term deals, developing them and being competitive. Not bank rolling the club like previous owners before Sandgard who saved us from the depths of possible extinction. Be joyous in these moments and be grateful we've got our Charlton back !!! (I am loving every minute - especially to think we are beating other clubs to these players and Jones is building a wonderful football club once again)Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)4 -
What did they say about his defending?balham red said:
That is cope. PNE fans are extremely excited about Small from what they've seen already, and other fans that saw the Liverpool friendly are also saying what a player he looks.No.1 in South London said:I know it's a pre-season friendly, but he should be using the game to make the best first impression.
Check out Liverpools first goal in their friendly against PNE this afternoon and you will see Small's shortcoming........ his lack of nouse and effort when required to defend!!
No issues with him as a forward threat but unless he takes his defensive responsibilities more seriously then he will not realise his potential and forever be a frustration for his managers/coaches.
If he was a new signing for us we'd be equally excited. Let's be honest, he's a rare player thats got pace, skill and strength………….. who all too frequently switches off defensively (and offensively has little to show in terms of goals/assists for all of the pace, skill and strength thus far in his journey around the leagues)That is what I believe to be his problem although I do agree with HI about him being more comfortable on the left and he is clearly a forward threat (especially if he can improve on the end product).His pace and strength will be very evident and praised on first glance, not sold on his skill as consistent quality of crossing and shooting are two very important must haves for an effective offensive threat.
Did you see the goal that I mentioned and the part he played?We will see how he goes at PNE but I suspect some questionable habits will be noticed by those who pay attention to his defending.
Their excitement may turn with the new year once the honeymoon period is over. If he contributes 6+ goals/assists next season I’ll admit I am wrong about him, but he may also be involved in the goals conceded column as he can be inclined to switch off without the ball at his feet.
The “what a player he looks” doesn’t make it so……nor do his career stats thus far suggest he is?1 -
Apter was the player I thought had the most potential in league one last season. When we got Carey, I said to my son, it is a shame it wasn't Apter.3
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Do you know what the budget is? Do you know money isn’t being spent wisely? Without thought or good reason?ShootersHillGuru said:
But there is a budget and it’s important that money is spent wisely because the investment made by our owners must be seen to be moving us forward. Spending money without thought or good reason is just plain stupid.TheAddicks4Ever said:
Exactly who cares - it actually shows that we have owners who are investing in our club and working to a strategy of long term sustainability. Investing in young talent, long term deals, developing them and being competitive. Not bank rolling the club like previous owners before Sandgard who saved us from the depths of possible extinction. Be joyous in these moments and be grateful we've got our Charlton back !!! (I am loving every minute - especially to think we are beating other clubs to these players and Jones is building a wonderful football club once again)Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)3 -
Exactly we are not paying over inflated prices for players like Birmingham have !!!ShootersHillGuru said:
But there is a budget and it’s important that money is spent wisely because the investment made by our owners must be seen to be moving us forward. Spending money without thought or good reason is just plain stupid.TheAddicks4Ever said:
Exactly who cares - it actually shows that we have owners who are investing in our club and working to a strategy of long term sustainability. Investing in young talent, long term deals, developing them and being competitive. Not bank rolling the club like previous owners before Sandgard who saved us from the depths of possible extinction. Be joyous in these moments and be grateful we've got our Charlton back !!! (I am loving every minute - especially to think we are beating other clubs to these players and Jones is building a wonderful football club once again)Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)2 -
For Apter read Kirk15
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Think you'll find a good percentage is the fans money, paid through the turnstiles and various outlets, which contributes to the running of our club...Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)1 -
I don't know if that's a serious comment, but I think one difference is that (by all accounts) Apter wants to come to us. I didn't get the impression that Kirk was ever massively keen on coming here, and that was a factor in him being rubbish for us.ecclesaddick said:For Apter read Kirk
Also, if we sign Apter he'll get better coaching from Nathan Jones than Kirk did from the managers we had in his time with us.14 -
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.eastterrace6168 said:
If we get apter and dkd I will buy an extra lukewarm pie every game at half time.
Think you'll find a good percentage is the fans money, paid through the turnstiles and various outlets, which contributes to the running of our club...Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)10 -
No. For two reasons.ecclesaddick said:For Apter read Kirk
One: Nathan Jones would NEVER have signed Kirk. He is the antithesis of a Jones player.
Two: Apter is a really good, hard working player. Kirk was a rubbish, lazy one.
They're kind of the same points, but they needed saying twice.19 -
Is extra lukewarm a bit warmer than lukewarm?Steven81 said:.eastterrace6168 said:
If we get apter and dkd I will buy an extra lukewarm pie every game at half time.
Think you'll find a good percentage is the fans money, paid through the turnstiles and various outlets, which contributes to the running of our club...Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)2 -
No I don’t but there is a budget and any signings we make have to fit in with that limit and be spread across the required positions. The owners provide the budget and they appoint people they think will spend it wisely and move their investment forwards. Every player has a value that Jones and the recruitment team set. I don’t see them breaking that without very very good reason. Nor should they.TelMc32 said:
Do you know what the budget is? Do you know money isn’t being spent wisely? Without thought or good reason?ShootersHillGuru said:
But there is a budget and it’s important that money is spent wisely because the investment made by our owners must be seen to be moving us forward. Spending money without thought or good reason is just plain stupid.TheAddicks4Ever said:
Exactly who cares - it actually shows that we have owners who are investing in our club and working to a strategy of long term sustainability. Investing in young talent, long term deals, developing them and being competitive. Not bank rolling the club like previous owners before Sandgard who saved us from the depths of possible extinction. Be joyous in these moments and be grateful we've got our Charlton back !!! (I am loving every minute - especially to think we are beating other clubs to these players and Jones is building a wonderful football club once again)Elthamaddick said:why is everyone moaning about the fee....it ain't our money, just be glad the owners are prepared to stump it up (I am !)0 -
TheAddicks4Ever said:I wonder if there's a way of finding out which players have gone to training camp this week and which players were not on the plane and are are left behind to train at Sparrows Lane???
Can't some of CAFC train spotters become plane spotters and report back to CL. High class binoculars needed and flight time to Slovenia.1 -
We have a little list of the ones we’ve seen in the clubs social media over on the pre season threadTheAddicks4Ever said:I wonder if there's a way of finding out which players have gone to training camp this week and which players were not on the plane and are are left behind to train at Sparrows Lane???1 -
Anyone got tabs on Linda today?15
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No direct flights to Ljubljana today.
Finalise deal(s) today
Fly tomorrow & media stufd
Train Wednesday
Announce Wednesday eve.
Might as well turn this thread off till then1 -
Never stop looking, never stop looking for Lindadaveydanger said:Anyone got tabs on Linda today?
Never stop looking, never stop looking for Linda11 -
Difficult to say with any authority.EpsomAddick said:
I don't know if that's a serious comment, but I think one difference is that (by all accounts) Apter wants to come to us. I didn't get the impression that Kirk was ever massively keen on coming here, and that was a factor in him being rubbish for us.ecclesaddick said:For Apter read Kirk
Also, if we sign Apter he'll get better coaching from Nathan Jones than Kirk did from the managers we had in his time with us.
Kirk looked like a fish out of water from day one. For some reason, and I know this is weird, but his haircut always bothered me. It looked so northernly unfashionable.
I always imagined him sitting in his London apartment with his ear defenders on because he couldn't stand the London noise,eating the stuff his mum sent down in food parcels from the Cheshire countryside.
I mean. Look where he's playing now.
Barrow in Furness FFS!
Who, apart from a dyed in the wool northener chooses to go there?!?
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