What is the real financial cost for individuals using lime bikes and would getting a bus (plus a short walk from the bus stop presumably) be cheaper?
I think you can get the first 10mins of the ride free of charge, so maybe a bus not cheaper. Around here in Peckham it seems a lot are able to use them without paying.
Same in Charlton, mostly ridden by school kids who've disabled them.
What is the real financial cost for individuals using lime bikes and would getting a bus (plus a short walk from the bus stop presumably) be cheaper?
I think you can get the first 10mins of the ride free of charge, so maybe a bus not cheaper. Around here in Peckham it seems a lot are able to use them without paying.
If you hear them making a beeping noise when being ridden, they usually have a fault, and 90% of the time that "fault" is that they are being ridden without someone paying for them
If Lime can get their bikes to make noises, couldn’t they have the technology where the bikes yell ‘I am stolen, I am stolen’ loudly and continually if they have indeed been stolen?
Good luck with your claim. These bikes thrown everywhere are polluting our towns and are hazardous. It's not dissimilar to fly tipping. They should be made to take a chunky deposit or card guarantee so that unless they are returned to a proper parking point, the deposit is lost? Maybe they do this already but it clearly isn't working. Fine the companies involved until they manage this properly.
2 of them slung on the floor at the end of my road yesterday, in true fly-tipping style. I don't think Lime bikes have proper parking points. You just leave it where you finish your trip. If you're a normal person than you leave it stood up tidily next to a wall, if you're a braindead imbecile then you chuck it on the floor for the rest of society to walk around/trip over. Obviously the company has to take a decent proportion of the responsibility and should improve their policies in relation to wear the bikes are left, but really it wouldn't be a problem if people behaved in a more civilised manner. It's weird - why do so many people think "I've finished with this bike now, what's the most inconsiderate thing I can do with it?"
“Next to a wall”? No, no, no. Nowhere on the pavement where they inconvenience pedestrians, especially blind pedestrians.
Lime give you nothing for free, it’s Human Forest (or some name like that) that show the first 10-minutes free but they still charge an on hire or off hire fee so there is no free trip just a discounted first trip if you will.
As an infrequent lime user I’d offer the following musings. To visit the Valley, I come into North Greenwich so yes I could walk if it’s a nice day but invariably I wouldn’t have the time so a bus each way is £1.75 and well it’s a bus….
If you just hopped on a Lime and started a trip it’d probably be between £6-9 each way depending on how fast you cycle and how lucky you get with all the poxy traffic lights (as an aside these operators should, I believe, be forced to switch to a distance charging model rather than time charging as this is what causes the dangerous “rush” mentality and not waiting at lights etc.) but you can get pre-pay £3.99 Lime passes that cover you for 30-minutes which is comfortably enough time for both trips (the 30-minutes have to be used in a 24-hr period) so I generally take the 49p hike to avoid being squashed in with other grebby humans on buses and to convince myself that even though it’s an e-bike it may just about give me back the calories I’m going to use for maybe half of my first badly poured pint…. Simples.
Are buses that bad? Cheaper than lime bikes and you get out of the rain for a while.
What is the real financial cost for individuals using lime bikes and would getting a bus (plus a short walk from the bus stop presumably) be cheaper?
I think you can get the first 10mins of the ride free of charge, so maybe a bus not cheaper. Around here in Peckham it seems a lot are able to use them without paying.
If you hear them making a beeping noise when being ridden, they usually have a fault, and 90% of the time that "fault" is that they are being ridden without someone paying for them
If Lime can get their bikes to make noises, couldn’t they have the technology where the bikes yell ‘I am stolen, I am stolen’ loudly and continually if they have indeed been stolen?
Probably, but that would even be more of a badge of pride for some than riding a bike that goes beep beep
What is the real financial cost for individuals using lime bikes and would getting a bus (plus a short walk from the bus stop presumably) be cheaper?
I think you can get the first 10mins of the ride free of charge, so maybe a bus not cheaper. Around here in Peckham it seems a lot are able to use them without paying.
If you hear them making a beeping noise when being ridden, they usually have a fault, and 90% of the time that "fault" is that they are being ridden without someone paying for them
If Lime can get their bikes to make noises, couldn’t they have the technology where the bikes yell ‘I am stolen, I am stolen’ loudly and continually if they have indeed been stolen?
better still, if after two minutes bleeping, it just sends a spike up your arse through the saddle.
Lime give you nothing for free, it’s Human Forest (or some name like that) that show the first 10-minutes free but they still charge an on hire or off hire fee so there is no free trip just a discounted first trip if you will.
As an infrequent lime user I’d offer the following musings. To visit the Valley, I come into North Greenwich so yes I could walk if it’s a nice day but invariably I wouldn’t have the time so a bus each way is £1.75 and well it’s a bus….
If you just hopped on a Lime and started a trip it’d probably be between £6-9 each way depending on how fast you cycle and how lucky you get with all the poxy traffic lights (as an aside these operators should, I believe, be forced to switch to a distance charging model rather than time charging as this is what causes the dangerous “rush” mentality and not waiting at lights etc.) but you can get pre-pay £3.99 Lime passes that cover you for 30-minutes which is comfortably enough time for both trips (the 30-minutes have to be used in a 24-hr period) so I generally take the 49p hike to avoid being squashed in with other grebby humans on buses and to convince myself that even though it’s an e-bike it may just about give me back the calories I’m going to use for maybe half of my first badly poured pint…. Simples.
£9 for North Greenwich to Charlton? How slow are you going if it's taking you 30 mins to do that journey
Few getting 'parked' in Beckenham lately always lying flat in the middle of the pavement. Although had one twat riding up the middle of the pavement yesterday.
Lime give you nothing for free, it’s Human Forest (or some name like that) that show the first 10-minutes free but they still charge an on hire or off hire fee so there is no free trip just a discounted first trip if you will.
As an infrequent lime user I’d offer the following musings. To visit the Valley, I come into North Greenwich so yes I could walk if it’s a nice day but invariably I wouldn’t have the time so a bus each way is £1.75 and well it’s a bus….
If you just hopped on a Lime and started a trip it’d probably be between £6-9 each way depending on how fast you cycle and how lucky you get with all the poxy traffic lights (as an aside these operators should, I believe, be forced to switch to a distance charging model rather than time charging as this is what causes the dangerous “rush” mentality and not waiting at lights etc.) but you can get pre-pay £3.99 Lime passes that cover you for 30-minutes which is comfortably enough time for both trips (the 30-minutes have to be used in a 24-hr period) so I generally take the 49p hike to avoid being squashed in with other grebby humans on buses and to convince myself that even though it’s an e-bike it may just about give me back the calories I’m going to use for maybe half of my first badly poured pint…. Simples.
£9 for North Greenwich to Charlton? How slow are you going if it's taking you 30 mins to do that journey
Had two dumped randomly by us all the way out in Greenhithe, I think Londoners working at Amazon were leaving them there to get from the station to work each day as they kept moving slightly each day.
Took over a week and many emails for Lime to collect them.
The fact that they can just be left randomly anywhere is a disgrace.
What's the difference between just dumping and leaving a bike in the street and dumping anything else - like a washing machine, or a mattress?
Lime give you nothing for free, it’s Human Forest (or some name like that) that show the first 10-minutes free but they still charge an on hire or off hire fee so there is no free trip just a discounted first trip if you will.
As an infrequent lime user I’d offer the following musings. To visit the Valley, I come into North Greenwich so yes I could walk if it’s a nice day but invariably I wouldn’t have the time so a bus each way is £1.75 and well it’s a bus….
If you just hopped on a Lime and started a trip it’d probably be between £6-9 each way depending on how fast you cycle and how lucky you get with all the poxy traffic lights (as an aside these operators should, I believe, be forced to switch to a distance charging model rather than time charging as this is what causes the dangerous “rush” mentality and not waiting at lights etc.) but you can get pre-pay £3.99 Lime passes that cover you for 30-minutes which is comfortably enough time for both trips (the 30-minutes have to be used in a 24-hr period) so I generally take the 49p hike to avoid being squashed in with other grebby humans on buses and to convince myself that even though it’s an e-bike it may just about give me back the calories I’m going to use for maybe half of my first badly poured pint…. Simples.
£9 for North Greenwich to Charlton? How slow are you going if it's taking you 30 mins to do that journey
That’s really not what I said…
"If you just hopped on a Lime and started a trip it’d probably be between £6-9 each way"
Was that not in relation to your journey to Charlton from North Greenwich?
I think it’s fairly clear that this was my estimate based upon their non “lime pass” rates. Look up the cost for yourself if you require a cast iron quotation ffs. I’ll not try to offer helpful answers to questions in the future now to avoid further challenges from the hard of thinking
I also took it you meant up to £9 for the journey fumbluff but glad you have clarified. When I used lime a year or two ago it was 29p a minute. So i'd have wanted to do a trip like north Greenwich to charlton in 5 minutes to get better value than the bus. And on that note I agree with your other point that it would be dangerous rushing to save a few pence and should be distance based charging rather time based.
I think when I was a Lime user it was 29p a minute when I was paying a monthly pass of around £8 which just covered the 'unlock fee'. Memory fades... my feet are better now so walking more in case anyone interested.
I read the whole of Fumbluff's post where he said -
"but you can get pre-pay £3.99 Lime passes that cover you for 30-minutes which is comfortably enough time for both trips (the 30-minutes have to be used in a 24-hr period) so I generally take the 49p hike to avoid being squashed in with other grebby humans on buses."
It's clear to me that he pays £3.99 as he can go from North Greenwich to Charlton and then back after the game in 30 mins.
What is the real financial cost for individuals using lime bikes and would getting a bus (plus a short walk from the bus stop presumably) be cheaper?
I think you can get the first 10mins of the ride free of charge, so maybe a bus not cheaper. Around here in Peckham it seems a lot are able to use them without paying.
If you hear them making a beeping noise when being ridden, they usually have a fault, and 90% of the time that "fault" is that they are being ridden without someone paying for them
If Lime can get their bikes to make noises, couldn’t they have the technology where the bikes yell ‘I am stolen, I am stolen’ loudly and continually if they have indeed been stolen?
Slightly related but Forest bikes are much harder to steal, their alarms are shrill as anything plus they're lighter and less likely to cause injuries. You see fewer of them dumped around
I think it’s fairly clear that this was my estimate based upon their non “lime pass” rates. Look up the cost for yourself if you require a cast iron quotation ffs. I’ll not try to offer helpful answers to questions in the future now to avoid further challenges from the hard of thinking
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Cheaper than lime bikes and you get out of the rain for a while.
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Well I never would have guessed that
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Was that not in relation to your journey to Charlton from North Greenwich?
Look up the cost for yourself if you require a cast iron quotation ffs.
I’ll not try to offer helpful answers to questions in the future now to avoid further challenges from the hard of thinking
I think when I was a Lime user it was 29p a minute when I was paying a monthly pass of around £8 which just covered the 'unlock fee'. Memory fades... my feet are better now so walking more in case anyone interested.
"but you can get pre-pay £3.99 Lime passes that cover you for 30-minutes which is comfortably enough time for both trips (the 30-minutes have to be used in a 24-hr period) so I generally take the 49p hike to avoid being squashed in with other grebby humans on buses."
It's clear to me that he pays £3.99 as he can go from North Greenwich to Charlton and then back after the game in 30 mins.