Who would you want IF Jones does go..?

SouthLincsAddick

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

ElfsborgAddick

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

100%

Danny_Jenner

Id like us to go for Jason Euell with maybe a old head to guide him

ElfsborgAddick

I'd bring Fraeye back, why not?

Tongue in cheek but being mildly serious.

No.1 in South London

Jorge Costa

se9addick

Danny_Jenner said:

Id like us to go for Jason Euell with maybe a old head to guide him

I’d love to be proven wrong, but with such a poor squad I really worry a manager with zero experience would be a disaster. If Jones gets the boot (and that could be as soon as tomorrow if we lose this afternoon or maybe it’s not in the ownerships thinking at all at this stage) I would want an experienced pair of hands, even just on a six month basis. We need to steady the ship before starting to unpick the calamity that the summer ‘23 transfer window has brought to our squad. 

eastterrace6168

Jones ain't going anywhere, at the very least till then end of the season, and then doubtful, he has the SMT in the palm of his hand I tell ya...🙄

wmcf123

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

se9addick

wmcf123 said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

Lack of money? We’re spending money, relatively lots of it for this division. We’re spending it very, very badly which is the issue. 

North Lower Neil

se9addick said:

wmcf123 said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

Lack of money? We’re spending money, relatively lots of it for this division. We’re spending it very, very badly which is the issue. 

Are we?

Suspect the CBT money paid for REG and Gillesphey, Coventry was probably free/not.much of a fee but with a big sell on.

Selling May paid for Godden and Ahadme.

So basically they've paid a couple of hundred grand each for Edwards and Mitchell and that's about it.

Half of Methven's shtick is look at how clever I'll be spending less and getting more for it.

Relative to say Mansfield  of course we are, but relative to what we should probably be spending if we want promotion?  I don't think so personally.

ShootersHillGuru

Part of the problem is that the real ownership and money is so far removed from the day to day activities of the club. They’ve left it in the hands of our SMT who have in the relatively short time they’ve been in charge fucked it up royally. The arrival of Gavin Carter is a step in the right direction and it is imho to him that we need to direct not anger but our concerns. He must be made fully aware of the groundswell of opinion and get that message back to the USA. I’m not at all pissed off with the yanks. I think they’ve acted honourably and with good intent. The mistake they’ve made is to leave the project in the hands of people who demonstrably are not up to it. 

Leuth

North Lower Neil said:

se9addick said:

wmcf123 said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

Lack of money? We’re spending money, relatively lots of it for this division. We’re spending it very, very badly which is the issue. 

Are we?

Suspect the CBT money paid for REG and Gillesphey, Coventry was probably free/not.much of a fee but with a big sell on.

Selling May paid for Godden and Ahadme.

So basically they've paid a couple of hundred grand each for Edwards and Mitchell and that's about it.

Half of Methven's shtick is look at how clever I'll be spending less and getting more for it.

Relative to say Mansfield  of course we are, but relative to what we should probably be spending if we want promotion?  I don't think so personally.

Isn't the main outlay on wages? I've heard we pay pretty well for L1

se9addick

North Lower Neil said:

se9addick said:

wmcf123 said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

Lack of money? We’re spending money, relatively lots of it for this division. We’re spending it very, very badly which is the issue. 

Are we?

Suspect the CBT money paid for REG and Gillesphey, Coventry was probably free/not.much of a fee but with a big sell on.

Selling May paid for Godden and Ahadme.

So basically they've paid a couple of hundred grand each for Edwards and Mitchell and that's about it.

Half of Methven's shtick is look at how clever I'll be spending less and getting more for it.

Relative to say Mansfield  of course we are, but relative to what we should probably be spending if we want promotion?  I don't think so personally.

None of those players are playing for free. At this level (unless you’re Birmingham) transfer fees are a relatively small part of the outlay. Our salary bill is amongst the highest in the division, so money is being spent, as I said a lot of it for League One, but we’re spending it badly. 

queensland_addick

We've tried the older, more experienced manager, we've tried the younger less experienced, more progressive, type manager. Nothing has worked.

We might have had better joy by just picking a name out of a hat.

With that in mind, I wouldn't mind trying one of our former foreign players, who may just bring a different approach and a more exciting brand of football.
Some names, although I have no idea which of them might be interested in managing us:

Costa, Johansson, Jenson, Kermorgant, Pringle, Svennson.

North Lower Neil

se9addick said:

North Lower Neil said:

se9addick said:

wmcf123 said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

Lack of money? We’re spending money, relatively lots of it for this division. We’re spending it very, very badly which is the issue. 

Are we?

Suspect the CBT money paid for REG and Gillesphey, Coventry was probably free/not.much of a fee but with a big sell on.

Selling May paid for Godden and Ahadme.

So basically they've paid a couple of hundred grand each for Edwards and Mitchell and that's about it.

Half of Methven's shtick is look at how clever I'll be spending less and getting more for it.

Relative to say Mansfield  of course we are, but relative to what we should probably be spending if we want promotion?  I don't think so personally.

None of those players are playing for free. At this level (unless you’re Birmingham) transfer fees are a relatively small part of the outlay. Our salary bill is amongst the highest in the division, so money is being spent, as I said a lot of it for League One, but we’re spending it badly. 

Again I'm not sure we are - obviously wages aren't advertised everywhere, but there's a few sites with decent guesses on and we're not that near the top.

I actually agree transfer fees aren't important really - wages are more important and with decent planning and good wages there are plenty of good free transfers available most summers.

They just aren't sticking the money required in (IMHO) and aren't competent enough for the decent planning.

se9addick

North Lower Neil said:

se9addick said:

North Lower Neil said:

se9addick said:

wmcf123 said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

Lack of money? We’re spending money, relatively lots of it for this division. We’re spending it very, very badly which is the issue. 

Are we?

Suspect the CBT money paid for REG and Gillesphey, Coventry was probably free/not.much of a fee but with a big sell on.

Selling May paid for Godden and Ahadme.

So basically they've paid a couple of hundred grand each for Edwards and Mitchell and that's about it.

Half of Methven's shtick is look at how clever I'll be spending less and getting more for it.

Relative to say Mansfield  of course we are, but relative to what we should probably be spending if we want promotion?  I don't think so personally.

None of those players are playing for free. At this level (unless you’re Birmingham) transfer fees are a relatively small part of the outlay. Our salary bill is amongst the highest in the division, so money is being spent, as I said a lot of it for League One, but we’re spending it badly. 

Again I'm not sure we are - obviously wages aren't advertised everywhere, but there's a few sites with decent guesses on and we're not that near the top.

I actually agree transfer fees aren't important really - wages are more important and with decent planning and good wages there are plenty of good free transfers available most summers.

They just aren't sticking the money required in (IMHO) and aren't competent enough for the decent planning.

I’m not sure what you mean, the wage bill is included in the annual accounts that the club have to publish. In the last financial year reported (which takes us to the end of June 2023) wages were something like £9M-£10M. This figure includes non-playing staff, but the squad will be the vast, vast majority of the total and that will be far higher than the majority of other clubs in this division. 

North Lower Neil

se9addick said:

North Lower Neil said:

se9addick said:

North Lower Neil said:

se9addick said:

wmcf123 said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

We are kidding ourselves that we can attract anyone half decent. The SMT are a laughing stock in the footballing community. We will only attract desperate managers like Appleton or Madmen like Jones (who has a track record of unwise managerial moves). Until we get rid of Methven, Scott and Rodwell, expect another dud like Appleton and expect us to be in the bottom half of League One. Real change starts at the top and these clowns are not up to it, they’ve proven that already.

I’d like to know what the biggest problem is : lack of money, poor SMT and therefore awful recruitment , poor manager .  I suspect all of them in reality .  I don’t think anyone could take this squad near the top of the league , as much as I can’t stand Jones 

Lack of money? We’re spending money, relatively lots of it for this division. We’re spending it very, very badly which is the issue. 

Are we?

Suspect the CBT money paid for REG and Gillesphey, Coventry was probably free/not.much of a fee but with a big sell on.

Selling May paid for Godden and Ahadme.

So basically they've paid a couple of hundred grand each for Edwards and Mitchell and that's about it.

Half of Methven's shtick is look at how clever I'll be spending less and getting more for it.

Relative to say Mansfield  of course we are, but relative to what we should probably be spending if we want promotion?  I don't think so personally.

None of those players are playing for free. At this level (unless you’re Birmingham) transfer fees are a relatively small part of the outlay. Our salary bill is amongst the highest in the division, so money is being spent, as I said a lot of it for League One, but we’re spending it badly. 

Again I'm not sure we are - obviously wages aren't advertised everywhere, but there's a few sites with decent guesses on and we're not that near the top.

I actually agree transfer fees aren't important really - wages are more important and with decent planning and good wages there are plenty of good free transfers available most summers.

They just aren't sticking the money required in (IMHO) and aren't competent enough for the decent planning.

I’m not sure what you mean, the wage bill is included in the annual accounts that the club have to publish. In the last financial year reported (which takes us to the end of June 2023) wages were something like £9M-£10M. This figure includes non-playing staff, but the squad will be the vast, vast majority of the total and that will be far higher than the majority of other clubs in this division. 

Would be interesting to know that split, wouldn't it?

alburyaddick

I would give Jason Euell a go , he has experience at all levels of the game  as a player and had a fair bit of management experience now inc asst manager at Bristol City under Nigel Pearson - he has good history with the club 

The Prince-e-Paul

Rufus would be more trustworthy than Jones right now. 

vff

eastterrace6168 said:

Jones ain't going anywhere, at the very least till then end of the season, and then doubtful, he has the SMT in the palm of his hand I tell ya...🙄

SMT (getting paid well) need someone to take the blame & deflect from their emperors new clothes of a strategy. They will try & keep Jones for as long as possible. 

vff

Not sure 🤔 who would take over in the current set up. Maybe Jason Pierce. Hospital pass of a job for anyone picking it up. 

MuttleyCAFC

We are kidding ourselves if we expect our SMT to be up to recruiting anybody decent.