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Black Friday

Hal1xHal1x
edited November 30 in General Charlton
I hate the whole concept of Black Friday for a number of reasons.
The sheer number of adverts promoting it, the importing of another Americanism, the fact that it seems to cover the whole of December, and that the bargains are all bogus often not genuine discounts but cheap items bought in specially. 

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  • soapy_jonessoapy_jones
    Just another bucket of bollocks imported from the States. Just spam email for me.
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    Got Cyber Monday coming up too... to look forward to
  • Off_itOff_it
    I agree in general. But I did get £50 off a bottle of whisky yesterday and had had my eye on it for a while so I know it was a genuine discount.
  • thai malaysia addickthai malaysia addick
    The number of emails that have my inbox has driven me mad. 
  • charltonbobcharltonbob
    Great cartoon in metro yesterday. An empty coffee shop advertising coffee @£2.50. Next there is the same coffee shop with sign "black Friday special, coffee only £2.50 with big queue outside. Sums it up for me.
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    The biggest con going . 
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  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Off_it said:
    I agree in general. But I did get £50 off a bottle of whisky yesterday and had had my eye on it for a while so I know it was a genuine discount.
    That's when it's half decent, if you've wanted something anyway and see if the price comes down etc knowing what it's been before.

    I agree it's everywhere this year though and a lot of it is c**p, not genuine deals etc.
  • Stuart_the_RedStuart_the_Red
    Mass hysteria!
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    https://youtu.be/neJorQci-wI
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    Off_it said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    The biggest con going . 
    Oh right. So I didn't save myself £50 then? I'd better check my statement.
    It’s was probably £50 cheaper a few months ago anyway . 
  • fenlandaddickfenlandaddick
    edited November 30
    Preferred the Jan sales. At least as a youngster had Xmas money to spend. Seems a bit weird to discount before Christmas
  • GlovepupGlovepup
    Off_it said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    Off_it said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    The biggest con going . 
    Oh right. So I didn't save myself £50 then? I'd better check my statement.
    It’s was probably £50 cheaper a few months ago anyway . 
    It wasn't. And it was still the same (higher) price on other websites.

    Next.
    Enjoy the Whiskey mate. 
  • clb74clb74
    Bring it on.
    What's the problem?
    If some of these firms want to give me a £100 gift card for £80 I'm all for it.
    Happy to receive 100 emails a day.
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  • Hal1xHal1x
    YannTheMann said:
    As someone who works in advertising, black Friday is not the con you seem to think you're one step ahead of, rather the market undercutting each other for a specific week and forcing the rest of the markets hand, the prices are largely set by Amazon in this period as they clearly have the best economies of scale available, there ARE examples of price gouging pre sale, but largely black Friday sales are putting huge corporates down to single % margins. This is something that should be celebrated as a consumer, not scoffed at. 
    Hardly one specific week though, heres Argos' interpretation-

  • HuskarisHuskaris
    Hal1x said:
    YannTheMann said:
    As someone who works in advertising, black Friday is not the con you seem to think you're one step ahead of, rather the market undercutting each other for a specific week and forcing the rest of the markets hand, the prices are largely set by Amazon in this period as they clearly have the best economies of scale available, there ARE examples of price gouging pre sale, but largely black Friday sales are putting huge corporates down to single % margins. This is something that should be celebrated as a consumer, not scoffed at. 
    Hardly one specific week though, heres Argos' interpretation-

    It has to start earlier and earlier if you think about it. If you are a retailer targeting someone who has £500 to spend, you need to get the offers up before other companies do. 
  • seth plumseth plum
    I thought the system was the capitalist bastards usually sell something for fifty quid or so, but on Black Friday they sell it for fifty quid or so, but say the fifty quid is a price reduction from a hundred quid.

  • Hal1xHal1x
    Huskaris said:
    Hal1x said:
    YannTheMann said:
    As someone who works in advertising, black Friday is not the con you seem to think you're one step ahead of, rather the market undercutting each other for a specific week and forcing the rest of the markets hand, the prices are largely set by Amazon in this period as they clearly have the best economies of scale available, there ARE examples of price gouging pre sale, but largely black Friday sales are putting huge corporates down to single % margins. This is something that should be celebrated as a consumer, not scoffed at. 
    Hardly one specific week though, heres Argos' interpretation-

    It has to start earlier and earlier if you think about it. If you are a retailer targeting someone who has £500 to spend, you need to get the offers up before other companies do. 
    Darkish Grey October?
  • ChizzChizz
    seth plum said:
    I thought the system was the capitalist bastards usually sell something for fifty quid or so, but on Black Friday they sell it for fifty quid or so, but say the fifty quid is a price reduction from a hundred quid.

    Were this ever to happen, other than in your head, it would be against the law.  

    In the UK, The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 governs issues related to misleading price claims, including falsely representing a price as a reduction against a normal price. 

    Regulation 5 prohibits misleading actions that deceive consumers, including false claims about pricing or discounts. A retailer cannot claim a price is a reduction against a "normal" price unless that price was genuinely available to consumers for a reasonable period. Any "was/now" pricing must reflect an accurate previous price. The "was" price should have been actively charged for a significant and recent period before the discount. Misleading price claims are illegal if they cause the consumer to make a transactional decision they otherwise wouldn’t have made. Breaches can result in criminal penalties (fines or imprisonment) or civil enforcement, such as orders to cease misleading practices. 

    Retailers must ensure transparency and accuracy to avoid misleading consumers about discounts and sales. 
  • Hal1xHal1x
    edited December 2
    When I was at Allders we used to bung up the price of (or more often buy in) a TV/duvet/bed/ vacuum cleaner...whatever@ say £500 at our quietish Hull store for 30 days (you wouldn't sell any at that price, especially in Hull, but it does establish that price) then after 30 days you can sell them in all the stores "Hoover Sucka was £500 now £249.99" voila "a genuine half price bargain!", stack 'em high sell 'em "cheap", Fill ya boots etc.
  • DaveMehmetDaveMehmet
    Huskaris said:
    Camelcamelcamel is a really good website where you can put an Amazon link in and it will show you the price history, informing you if you really are getting a deal. 
    Not as good as camelcamelcameltoe
  • seth plumseth plum
    Chizz said:
    seth plum said:
    I thought the system was the capitalist bastards usually sell something for fifty quid or so, but on Black Friday they sell it for fifty quid or so, but say the fifty quid is a price reduction from a hundred quid.

    Were this ever to happen, other than in your head, it would be against the law.  

    In the UK, The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 governs issues related to misleading price claims, including falsely representing a price as a reduction against a normal price. 

    Regulation 5 prohibits misleading actions that deceive consumers, including false claims about pricing or discounts. A retailer cannot claim a price is a reduction against a "normal" price unless that price was genuinely available to consumers for a reasonable period. Any "was/now" pricing must reflect an accurate previous price. The "was" price should have been actively charged for a significant and recent period before the discount. Misleading price claims are illegal if they cause the consumer to make a transactional decision they otherwise wouldn’t have made. Breaches can result in criminal penalties (fines or imprisonment) or civil enforcement, such as orders to cease misleading practices. 

    Retailers must ensure transparency and accuracy to avoid misleading consumers about discounts and sales. 
    Other than in my head?

    Here is a photograph I have just taken from this latest Which? magazine.
    So It is not only in my head, but in the heads of those who write the magazine, and it also happens in reality.


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