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Crayford Dogs to close

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,480
    Can't believe Crayford is no longer sustainable. Thought loads still went there.


  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,840
    Gribbo said:
    Can't believe Crayford is no longer sustainable. Thought loads still went there.



    It's not paying customers that is the main issue - it's the lack of dogs which results in poor product for the bookies. It is a betting decision by Ladbrokes (Entain).
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 844
    edited January 16
    Gribbo said:
    Can't believe Crayford is no longer sustainable. Thought loads still went there.


    Suppose it's a bit like the pubs they say no longer sustainable when they mean can make a lot more profit as flats
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    Radostanradical said:
    Gribbo said:
    Can't believe Crayford is no longer sustainable. Thought loads still went there.


    Suppose it's a bit like the pubs they say no longer sustainable when they mean can make a lot more profit as flats

    Just read that Wetherspoons are to have another 10 open in the next 12 months.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,840
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Radostanradical said:
    Gribbo said:
    Can't believe Crayford is no longer sustainable. Thought loads still went there.


    Suppose it's a bit like the pubs they say no longer sustainable when they mean can make a lot more profit as flats

    Just read that Wetherspoons are to have another 10 open in the next 12 months.
    Not all pubs are equal…

  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,579
    BoysOwn said:
    Have great memories of going to see banger racing there in the 70's. They had a figure of 8 track so mayhem ensued. Last car able to drive won. Happy days!
    What was the capacity back then.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    bobmunro said:
    Gribbo said:
    Can't believe Crayford is no longer sustainable. Thought loads still went there.



    It's not paying customers that is the main issue - it's the lack of dogs which results in poor product for the bookies. It is a betting decision by Ladbrokes (Entain).
    Was there late last year, never a full race to be had.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Lordflashheart said:
    So sad 

    Our first house was in Crayford - when the kids were little, Saturday mornings it was free entry - bar opened early doors - only did low bets on the Tote - my son’s strategy - bet on first dog to poo on parade pre race - surprisingly successful 😃

    And sod off anyone coming on here and giving it the negative about Greyhound racing - down at the traps and listening to them anticipating the race - they love it - in their genes 

    Fantastic to watch, so fast and graceful 
    Sod off to you giving it large. In their genes my arse.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    What, a sight hound chasing something small and quick moving isn't in its genes?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,980
    Gates opened 13.15..
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  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,017
    Covered End said:
    Gates opened 13.15..
    Literally a case of “what ya coulda had” it’s just a “I was there on the last wkend moment”
    if it had been like that most of the time it might have stayed…goodbye to the days/nights at Crayford,speedway,banger racing,dog track
    consigned to the history books
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,820
    That’s generally what it was like. It’s not the lack of support from punters why it’s closing 
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,409
    Some trainers asked to be opted out of the “difficult traffic days” - hence the start of a lack of runners. IMO this was in the back of the track owners’ minds for a long time - get it look like it died naturally. 
    A sporting facility replaced by flats/shops - we better get used to it. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,980
    edited January 19
    The early photos above don't show how packed it got a bit later.
    Basically it was full to the brim.
    The end of the queue for the bar (about 100), backed into the food queue (about 50), which backed into "the queues" for the tote also about 100.
    Great afternoon and evening in The Kings Head Bexley.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,827
    Valiantphil said:
    Some trainers asked to be opted out of the “difficult traffic days” - hence the start of a lack of runners. IMO this was in the back of the track owners’ minds for a long time - get it look like it died naturally. 
    A sporting facility replaced by flats/shops - we better get used to it. 
    What does difficult traffic day mean ? 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    The lack of runners was partially created by the track.A shortage occurred when a lot of owners removed their dogs when Entain  took away the Saturday morning  and evening meetings.
    I am convinced it was a planned strategy to close the track. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    It was all to do with a lack of dogs in the end, not punters. This was driven by lower prize pots for races and then trying to fit in more races across all their venues, so there's always dogs "on" in the bookies. The move from 2 Saturday meetings to 1 really didn't help, and that really was the beginning of the end, though it gave them Sundays where the combination of dog racing and Sunday roast dinners was very popular. 

    Essentially Entain wanted this to happen
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,619
    Wheresmeticket said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    So sad 

    Our first house was in Crayford - when the kids were little, Saturday mornings it was free entry - bar opened early doors - only did low bets on the Tote - my son’s strategy - bet on first dog to poo on parade pre race - surprisingly successful 😃

    And sod off anyone coming on here and giving it the negative about Greyhound racing - down at the traps and listening to them anticipating the race - they love it - in their genes 

    Fantastic to watch, so fast and graceful 
    Sod off to you giving it large. In their genes my arse.
    Shut up you bellend - research Greyhounds - you are the one talking out of your arse 
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,619
    sam3110 said:
    It was all to do with a lack of dogs in the end, not punters. This was driven by lower prize pots for races and then trying to fit in more races across all their venues, so there's always dogs "on" in the bookies. The move from 2 Saturday meetings to 1 really didn't help, and that really was the beginning of the end, though it gave them Sundays where the combination of dog racing and Sunday roast dinners was very popular. 

    Essentially Entain wanted this to happen
    THIS 

    But it’s underneath high power electricity cables - alternative use as residential is sketchy to say the least - but given that they allow houses on flood plains 🤷
  • Willo
    Willo Posts: 38
    sam3110 said:
    It was all to do with a lack of dogs in the end, not punters. This was driven by lower prize pots for races and then trying to fit in more races across all their venues, so there's always dogs "on" in the bookies. The move from 2 Saturday meetings to 1 really didn't help, and that really was the beginning of the end, though it gave them Sundays where the combination of dog racing and Sunday roast dinners was very popular. 

    Essentially Entain wanted this they have  
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  • Willo
    Willo Posts: 38
    Been going the last few months, they have been offered 15 million to keep it going by another company. ladbrooks owners don't care and don't want it to succeed. Apparently the track cant be built on for another 55 years 🤷 and the river runs under it.
  • Shag
    Shag Posts: 4,554
    The river cray doesn’t run under it
  • Pelham123
    Pelham123 Posts: 379
    Two other rivers run under Crayford. The Stanham and Wansunt.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,409
    MrOneLung said:
    Valiantphil said:
    Some trainers asked to be opted out of the “difficult traffic days” - hence the start of a lack of runners. IMO this was in the back of the track owners’ minds for a long time - get it look like it died naturally. 
    A sporting facility replaced by flats/shops - we better get used to it. 
    What does difficult traffic day mean ? 
    @MrOneLung
    using the M25 on Fridays and Saturdays. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited January 20
    Lordflashheart said:
    Wheresmeticket said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    So sad 

    Our first house was in Crayford - when the kids were little, Saturday mornings it was free entry - bar opened early doors - only did low bets on the Tote - my son’s strategy - bet on first dog to poo on parade pre race - surprisingly successful 😃

    And sod off anyone coming on here and giving it the negative about Greyhound racing - down at the traps and listening to them anticipating the race - they love it - in their genes 

    Fantastic to watch, so fast and graceful 
    Sod off to you giving it large. In their genes my arse.
    Shut up you bellend - research Greyhounds - you are the one talking out of your arse 
    Up yours twat.  You'll just believe whatever supports your habit, with the support of your usual little friends.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    edited January 20
    My old man used to 'drive' Bangers at Crayford Stadium in the mid/late 70s (Also Iwade). his number was 136.

    Rather than paint the car he used to stick page 3 girls all over the car!! 

    Different times!

    Our area is so badly served with things to do. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,840
    Macronate said:
    Wheresmeticket said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    So sad 

    Our first house was in Crayford - when the kids were little, Saturday mornings it was free entry - bar opened early doors - only did low bets on the Tote - my son’s strategy - bet on first dog to poo on parade pre race - surprisingly successful 😃

    And sod off anyone coming on here and giving it the negative about Greyhound racing - down at the traps and listening to them anticipating the race - they love it - in their genes 

    Fantastic to watch, so fast and graceful 
    Sod off to you giving it large. In their genes my arse.
    Lordflashheart said:
    Wheresmeticket said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    So sad 

    Our first house was in Crayford - when the kids were little, Saturday mornings it was free entry - bar opened early doors - only did low bets on the Tote - my son’s strategy - bet on first dog to poo on parade pre race - surprisingly successful 😃

    And sod off anyone coming on here and giving it the negative about Greyhound racing - down at the traps and listening to them anticipating the race - they love it - in their genes 

    Fantastic to watch, so fast and graceful 
    Sod off to you giving it large. In their genes my arse.
    Shut up you bellend - research Greyhounds - you are the one talking out of your arse 
    Wheresmeticket said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    Wheresmeticket said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    So sad 

    Our first house was in Crayford - when the kids were little, Saturday mornings it was free entry - bar opened early doors - only did low bets on the Tote - my son’s strategy - bet on first dog to poo on parade pre race - surprisingly successful 😃

    And sod off anyone coming on here and giving it the negative about Greyhound racing - down at the traps and listening to them anticipating the race - they love it - in their genes 

    Fantastic to watch, so fast and graceful 
    Sod off to you giving it large. In their genes my arse.
    Shut up you bellend - research Greyhounds - you are the one talking out of your arse 
    Up yours twat.  You'll just believe whatever supports your habit, with the support of your usual little friends.
    I’m sure I’ve placed losing bets on these at Crayford over the years.

    Button it you mug (Trap 4)
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,579
    falconwood_1 said:
    My old man used to 'drive' Bangers at Crayford Stadium in the mid/late 70s (Also Iwade). his number was 136.

    Rather than paint the car he used to stick page 3 girls all over the car!! 

    Different times!

    Our area is so badly served with things to do. 
    I probably saw him race...loved the banger racing at Crayford, my brother in law at the time was from Crayford.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    Only thing I can remember was a well known driver called Peter Miles who my old man used to have a rivalry with. Was a really exciting night out for a little kid. Ditto the speedway, both had the unique smells of the fuel and noises that are noises passing into history.

    Greyhounds was always gonna fade once hare coursing was banned. Horse racing is following a similar route currently.

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