Shel Talmy RIP

Henry Irving

Producer for The Who, The Kinks, Easybeats, The Damned, Bowie and many more.

With You Really Got Me, he created a sound for much of British rock for years to come.

And he produced Waterloo Sunset, My Generation, Friday On My Mind, etc, etc etc

HastingsRed

Some great tracks you mentioned there Henry RIP Shel.

Algarveaddick

Can't believe I had not heard of him. Poor on my part. RIP 

Six-a-bag-of-nuts

Shel has been posting "The Blueprint to.." various Kinks songs on his Facebook page over the last few years.
Some really interesting background and insight.
I really hoped he was going to put them all together in book form.
Maybe it will come out posthumously.
RIP

stonemuse

RIP

Stig

Algarveaddick said:

Can't believe I had not heard of him. Poor on my part. RIP 

Likewise, his is a name that's escaped me, but that's one hell of a catalogue that Henry has posted, so I feel it shouldn't have. Interesting that he was American, but apart from the Easybeats, who I believe were Aussies, all those acts mentioned were Brits. Friday on My Mind is one of my favourite records. RIP Shel.

soapy_jones

RIP

killerandflash

RIP. He produced some seminal records, and perhaps should have been better known.

Chizz

Henry Irving said:

Producer for The Who, The Kinks, Easybeats, The Damned, Bowie and many more.

With You Really Got Me, he created a sound for much of British rock for years to come.

And he produced Waterloo Sunset, My Generation, Friday On My Mind, etc, etc etc

I think the Kinks records Shel Talmy produced included "Really Got Me", "All Day and All of the Night" and "Dedicated Follower of Fashion".  I think "Waterloo Sunset" was produced by Ray Davies, after Talmy stopped working with them.  

Listening to the overdriven guitars on Really Got Me, you can hear My Generation; and vice versa. 

Big William

First heard of him when he produced a single for the Damned in '77, then found out later he'd produced a lot of the great stuff from the 60's. Other than George Martin and Phil Spector, producers didn't have the same profile as now, looking at his CV it's up there with the best.
RIP

Six-a-bag-of-nuts

Chizz said:

Henry Irving said:

Producer for The Who, The Kinks, Easybeats, The Damned, Bowie and many more.

With You Really Got Me, he created a sound for much of British rock for years to come.

And he produced Waterloo Sunset, My Generation, Friday On My Mind, etc, etc etc

I think the Kinks records Shel Talmy produced included "Really Got Me", "All Day and All of the Night" and "Dedicated Follower of Fashion".  I think "Waterloo Sunset" was produced by Ray Davies, after Talmy stopped working with them.  

Listening to the overdriven guitars on Really Got Me, you can hear My Generation; and vice versa. 

Waterloo Sunset is a bone of contention between Shel Talmy and the Kinks.
That song and the accompanying album "Something Else by The Kinks" marked the end of Shel's contract to produce the band.
Ray and Dave Davies are adamant that Waterloo Sunset was produced by Ray (in fact they also claim they were unhappy with Shel's production of the preceding single Dead End Street and went in and re-recorded it before release).
Shel however is also adamant that the released version of Waterloo Sunset was the one he produced and that he has the master tape to prove it!.
Ray has always been very precious about Waterloo Sunset, sees it as his crowning achievement was has increasingly watered it's legend over the years.
He also has form for not giving credit where it's due. Sesiion man Nicky Hopkins wonderful work on Village Green Preservation Society was not credited much to his chagrin
If I had to choose I suspect Shel is right, but who knows.
In any case, both brothers are very complimentary about Shel's contribution in the early days.
Sorry to derail the thread.

Chizz

Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:

Chizz said:

Henry Irving said:

Producer for The Who, The Kinks, Easybeats, The Damned, Bowie and many more.

With You Really Got Me, he created a sound for much of British rock for years to come.

And he produced Waterloo Sunset, My Generation, Friday On My Mind, etc, etc etc

I think the Kinks records Shel Talmy produced included "Really Got Me", "All Day and All of the Night" and "Dedicated Follower of Fashion".  I think "Waterloo Sunset" was produced by Ray Davies, after Talmy stopped working with them.  

Listening to the overdriven guitars on Really Got Me, you can hear My Generation; and vice versa. 

Waterloo Sunset is a bone of contention between Shel Talmy and the Kinks.
That song and the accompanying album "Something Else by The Kinks" marked the end of Shel's contract to produce the band.
Ray and Dave Davies are adamant that Waterloo Sunset was produced by Ray (in fact they also claim they were unhappy with Shel's production of the preceding single Dead End Street and went in and re-recorded it before release).
Shel however is also adamant that the released version of Waterloo Sunset was the one he produced and that he has the master tape to prove it!.
Ray has always been very precious about Waterloo Sunset, sees it as his crowning achievement was has increasingly watered it's legend over the years.
He also has form for not giving credit where it's due. Sesiion man Nicky Hopkins wonderful work on Village Green Preservation Society was not credited much to his chagrin
If I had to choose I suspect Shel is right, but who knows.
In any case, both brothers are very complimentary about Shel's contribution in the early days.
Sorry to derail the thread.

Not a derail at all - it's very interesting.  Thanks for that.  I thought Talmy's deal with the Kinks was up before Waterloo Sunset came out and that was part of the reason it sounds so different.