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MATCH THREAD (+post p20) : Charlton Athletic V Bromley : BSM Trophy : Tues 12 November 2024 KO 19:00

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  • Weird how the Charlton stream had the general EFL/Sky commentary all game. 
    That rubbish was the Sky stream commentary? Some of it was actually painful.
    couldn't even be bothered to identify the players properly.
  • Scoham said:
    Davo55 said:
    Didn't watch the game but from the comments on here and from the highlights it might be that Kai Enslin offers more of a creative attacking midfield threat than the other options we've tried. At least he seems to be able to beat a player without simply relying on pace.
    I’d like to see him making the squad for the next few league games. He’d add pace and the ability to run with the ball, something we lack across the team in most positions.

    It’ll be interesting to see where Jones sees him playing. He’s mainly played LWB for the u21s, but been a RW in the past along with filling in at CB and CM. Could make a case for most of those positions as he has a bit of everything to his game without being outstanding in one or two areas. 
    he also seems to offer more movement off the ball than the has beens.
  • Davo55 said:
    Didn't watch the game but from the comments on here and from the highlights it might be that Kai Enslin offers more of a creative attacking midfield threat than the other options we've tried. At least he seems to be able to beat a player without simply relying on pace.
    Not difficult to offer more of a creative attacking midfield threat than the has beens.
  • edited November 13
    Problem is he is a leftie. Although Edwards barely gets over the halfway line, Small has more talent. Perhaps in a cup match he might play central, but can't see him improving our under-performing side otherwise.
  • Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say. 
  • Kai Enslin is 19. He played very well on his debut and looked assured. A number of players have started their first team careers under 19 years old and survived well. Perhaps he is worth a few (sub) opportunities at first team level provided he is closely monitored? He was exciting to watch and shows a lot of maturity.
  • Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say. 
    Not watched it yet, the frustrating thing with that is we know players like Edun aren’t good enough. Someone like Enslin might be, should improve with games and could surprise us.
  • Edun has very rarely played midfield, which I think is his best position.
  • fenaddick said:
    For anyone who hasn’t seen the red card “offence”

    https://x.com/crimp_it/status/1856427699285172540?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
    If the ball hadn't gone out, it was one of those situations where 100% of the ball hadn't crossed the line, and instead part of it was still in play according to the lino.

    Ridiculous to give a red for that, which surely should be reserved for serious and deliberate encroachment, when Jones himself was still partially in his technical area and only his foot was over the touchline.
  • se9addick said:
    I’m absolutely astonished that over 2,000 Charlton fans went to this 
    My Brother in Law follows Bromley, thought we'd have a catch up and a bite to eat! Disturbed By crap football!
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  • Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say. 
    Well he was due to be on the bench by the sounds of things, so we were still bringing him into the fold, it's just that he wouldn't have started.
  • aliwibble said:
    Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say. 
    Well he was due to be on the bench by the sounds of things, so we were still bringing him into the fold, it's just that he wouldn't have started.
    Edun was suspended not injured 
  • Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say. 
    It was Taylor who dropped out late on.
  • Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say. 
    It was Taylor who dropped out late on.
    Taylor started? 
  • Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say. 
    It was Taylor who dropped out late on.
    I thought he'd said "Taylor" but it was "Tayo" who dropped out.
  • Yeah I think the coaching staff didn’t know Edun was suspended 
  • fenaddick said:
    So am I correct in saying that jones got sent off for kicking the ball when it was still on the pitch?

    I haven’t seen the replay, did he! 
    That’s what it was for but I would be surprised if that’s actually what happened
    He did. His foot was over the white line.
  • My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back. 

    Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.

    No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄

    Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL. 

    Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
    He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.
  • All the people going on about Nathan Jones getting a red card for kicking the ball while it was  in play l. Show how terrible was our first teams performance against Bromley. 
    No reflection on what says about the first team squad and it lack of depth of quality once again.
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  • Off_it said:
    David Bowie, Enid Blyton, Napoleon III, Rob Beckett, your boys took one hell of an average beating 
    Someone's just gone and Googled "famous Bromley residents"!

    Napoleon III actually lived in Chislehurst - in the building that's now the golf club (Camden Place). And his son - the Prince Imperial - was killed in the Zulu war. There's a memorial to him on Prince Imperial Road on the common. 

    I think they were Palace.

    Didn't Napoleon III actually form palarse back in the 1820s making them the oldest club in the world ?
  • JamesSeed said:
    Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    Croydon said:
    Chunes said:
    If they fine Berry a week's wages for that performance, I don't think he could argue
    First teamers were told not to get injured .. clear we played at 60% tonight 
    Do you not get bored of posting such bollocks? Because it is so fucking boring having to read it 
    Croydon said:
    Chunes said:
    If they fine Berry a week's wages for that performance, I don't think he could argue
    First teamers were told not to get injured .. clear we played at 60% tonight 
    Do you not get bored of posting such bollocks? Because it is so fucking boring having to read it 
    Don't read it then, it's his opinion nothing else.
    He doesn’t present it as such. He wants us to think he’s in the know hence ‘first teamers were TOLD not to get injured’. If it were his opinion it would be ‘I’d like to think the first teamers were told not to get injured’.
    I've got to say Large, there is a little part of me that thinks Ronnie does out of sheer devilment. The post tonight was almost timed to contradict previous posts, if you say its shit Ronnie will say it ain't. I don't think that post suggests that he's in the know, more that he believes that the players, although not instructed to ease up, but more they knew there was no sense in busting a gut, its a players sense more than anything. Back to Ronnie though, if, as I believe, Ronnie is playing you, why bite, surely that's giving him satisfaction and encouragement to take the contrary stand once again. 
    His whole schtick is to give the appearance of being in the know, to sound like an ‘insider’. 
    He's admitted on a site that can't be mentioned that he posts on here to wind people up.
  • edited November 14
    Off_it said:
    David Bowie, Enid Blyton, Napoleon III, Rob Beckett, your boys took one hell of an average beating 
    Someone's just gone and Googled "famous Bromley residents"!

    Napoleon III actually lived in Chislehurst - in the building that's now the golf club (Camden Place). And his son - the Prince Imperial - was killed in the Zulu war. There's a memorial to him on Prince Imperial Road on the common. 

    I think they were Palace.

    Didn't Napoleon III actually form palarse back in the 1820s making them the oldest club in the world ?

    No, it was King Arthur in AD600.
  • Scoham said:
    Speaks very well, just hope he wasn't late for school the next day. He looks 12 years old  :D
  • Crusty54 said:
    My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back. 

    Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.

    No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄

    Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL. 

    Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
    He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.
    Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.
    It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
  • JamesSeed said:
    Crusty54 said:
    My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back. 

    Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.

    No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄

    Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL. 

    Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
    He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.
    Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.
    It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
    He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched it
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Crusty54 said:
    My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back. 

    Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.

    No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄

    Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL. 

    Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
    He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.
    Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.
    It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
    He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched it
    Where were you sitting? 
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Crusty54 said:
    My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back. 

    Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.

    No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄

    Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL. 

    Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
    He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.
    Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.
    It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
    He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched it
    Unless you were sitting side on to the touchline, and concentrating entirely on when and where Jones kicked the ball I doubt you had a perfect view of the incident, and even then the naked eye can be misleading.

    I suspect it's like the incident in the last World Cup where the Japan player crossed the ball when it looked like it had gone out of play, when Hawkeye showed the ball was 2% in.

  • JohnnyH2 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Crusty54 said:
    My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back. 

    Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.

    No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄

    Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL. 

    Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
    He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.
    Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.
    It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
    He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched it
    Unless you were sitting side on to the touchline, and concentrating entirely on when and where Jones kicked the ball I doubt you had a perfect view of the incident, and even then the naked eye can be misleading.

    I suspect it's like the incident in the last World Cup where the Japan player crossed the ball when it looked like it had gone out of play, when Hawkeye showed the ball was 2% in.

    I was 4 rows back, centre circle
  • Off_it said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Crusty54 said:
    My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back. 

    Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.

    No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄

    Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL. 

    Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
    He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.
    Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.
    It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
    He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched it
    Where were you sitting? 
    4 rows back centre circle, saw enough, and certainly more than the stream shows
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