ETIAS - EU Travel Document required for entry into EU from early 2025

ShootersHillGuru

Anyone got an inside track on this. I remember when you just got waved through. 🤦🏻‍♂️

From the EU website :

When filling out the application, you will be asked to provide the following information:

• Personal information including your name(s), surname, date and place of birth, nationality, home address, parents’ first names, email address and phone number;
• Travel document details;
• Details about your level of education and current occupation;
• Details about your intended travel and stay in any of the countries requiring ETIAS;
• Details about any criminal convictions, any past travels to war or conflict zones, and whether you have recently been subject of a decision requiring you to leave the territory of any country.

You will need to declare that the data you submit and the statements you make are correct. You will also need to confirm that you understand the entry conditions to the territories of the European countries requiring ETIAS and that you may be requested to provide the relevant supporting documents each time you cross the external border.

https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/what-you-need-apply_en

https://www.abta.com/tips-and-advice/planning-and-booking-a-holiday/upcoming-changes-travel-europe

charlton4ever

One thing to be careful of is it will be linked to your passport (number) so if you need a new passport within the time frame it is valid I think you would have to reapply for a new one.  

ShootersHillGuru

I’m 68 and quite why I need to give my parents names or education eludes me.

Rothko

Sunny uplands 

CharltonKerry

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m 68 and quite why I need to give my parents names or education eludes me.

I’m 72 and I got no idea if my father had an official education, he might had gone to school once or twice, think my mum might had gone yo she was around 12. Both left school around 100 years ago.

valleynick66

CharltonKerry said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m 68 and quite why I need to give my parents names or education eludes me.

I’m 72 and I got no idea if my father had an official education, he might had gone to school once or twice, think my mum might had gone yo she was around 12. Both left school around 100 years ago.

You don’t need to. It’s your education level. 

SporadicAddick

EES keeps getting delayed because no one is ready for it. ETIAS same as requiring an ETA for Canada or an ESTA for USA. 

BigRedEvil

Finally a Brexit benefit! 

cafcfan

The EES is supposed to be coming in before ETIAS. (The fingerprinting and facial recognition bit). All the shiny new machines were lined up still in their protective packaging at Lanzarote ACE airport last week.  No where near ready.  It was supposed to be 10 November but apparently France, Holland and Germany couldn't get their act together.  No new date has been announced.  As for ETIAS, it was supposed to be launched in 2020,then 2022, 2023 and 2024. So I wouldn't hold my breath.

If the application process is anywhere near the same as the US ESTA, it will be very straightforward.  (They don't even ask you if you are a member of the Nazi party anymore).

soapy_jones

Awe, you're all gonna have to fill a form in.

ElliotCAFC

Isn’t Brexit brilliant 

Gisappointed

Can you arrange for the EES biometrics online before you go to airport for trip, if so, how? I can envisage thousands missing their plane due to delays completing the bureaucratic box ticking.

stop_shouting

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m 68 and quite why I need to give my parents names or education eludes me.

Dont see why you should be treated any differently ffom a 20 year old for example.

fat man on a moped

At the moment no exact date has been announced for the start of ETIAS and no applications are currently being accepted.

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/smart-borders/european-travel-information-authorisation-system_en

Chippycafc

Great idea don't want any Tom dick or terrorist coming into your country do you.... Oh wait. 

Chippycafc

fat man on a moped said:

At the moment no exact date has been announced for the start of ETIAS and no applications are currently being accepted.

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/smart-borders/european-travel-information-authorisation-system_en

If the EU have anything to with it will be a total shambles and a ton of unnecessary rubbish.

No doubt there will be a directive on what pen or font you must use. 

killerandflash

ShootersHillGuru said:

• Details about your level of education

Clearly designed to keep Millwall fans out of Europe

ShootersHillGuru

soapy_jones said:

Awe, you're all gonna have to fill a form in.

And pay for what was free

ShootersHillGuru

No date has been set but it’s likely to be before summer 2025. 

valleynick66

ShootersHillGuru said:

soapy_jones said:

Awe, you're all gonna have to fill a form in.

And pay for what was free

A reasonable £6 doesn’t seem to be an issue and more than in line with visiting the likes of Egypt for example. 

Small price for better security is a better way for looking at it. 

ShootersHillGuru

Gisappointed said:

Can you arrange for the EES biometrics online before you go to airport for trip, if so, how? I can envisage thousands missing their plane due to delays completing the bureaucratic box ticking.

I would imagine if you don’t have the process sorted before, then It’s pointless going to the airport. There won’t be any EU facility to get you sorted out at our airports.

valleynick66

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Can you arrange for the EES biometrics online before you go to airport for trip, if so, how? I can envisage thousands missing their plane due to delays completing the bureaucratic box ticking.

I would imagine if you don’t have the process sorted before, the. It’s pointless going to the airport

The EES part is having your picture taken and additionally finger prints. 

Photo routinely taken at 
Many airports already. 

Don’t see how you can do your fingerprints online beforehand if it’s to be secure?

I think it’s just been reported that first time you travel within Europe when introduced there will be an additional 5 mins to get the fingerprints first recorded - at least that’s what I’ve understood. 

Bournemouth Addick

valleynick66 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Can you arrange for the EES biometrics online before you go to airport for trip, if so, how? I can envisage thousands missing their plane due to delays completing the bureaucratic box ticking.

I would imagine if you don’t have the process sorted before, the. It’s pointless going to the airport

The EES part is having your picture taken and additionally finger prints. 

Photo routinely taken at 
Many airports already. 

Don’t see how you can do your fingerprints online beforehand if it’s to be secure?

I think it’s just been reported that first time you travel within Europe when introduced there will be an additional 5 mins to get the fingerprints first recorded - at least that’s what I’ve understood. 

How many people are on an average plane? 

Chizz

You can say one thing about Brexit: it's given Europe control back of their borders. 

seth plum

Borders?
Anybody mention borders?

PragueAddick

valleynick66 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

soapy_jones said:

Awe, you're all gonna have to fill a form in.

And pay for what was free

A reasonable £6 doesn’t seem to be an issue and more than in line with visiting the likes of Egypt for example. 

Small price for better security is a better way for looking at it. 

You mean better security for European cities like this one which  are getting a bit pissed off with English knobheads trashing the place? Because, you know, the UK was never in Schengen. 

stop_shouting

Seems like a storm in a teacup for remainers to wet their knickers about. Hopefully will speed things up like esta (visa waiver) has done. 

valleynick66

PragueAddick said:

valleynick66 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

soapy_jones said:

Awe, you're all gonna have to fill a form in.

And pay for what was free

A reasonable £6 doesn’t seem to be an issue and more than in line with visiting the likes of Egypt for example. 

Small price for better security is a better way for looking at it. 

You mean better security for European cities like this one which  are getting a bit pissed off with English knobheads trashing the place? Because, you know, the UK was never in Schengen. 

Eh?

it’s an EU decision  on who to require additional information from. 

I don’t really see the point you are making in the context of behaviour. 

valleynick66

Bournemouth Addick said:

valleynick66 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Can you arrange for the EES biometrics online before you go to airport for trip, if so, how? I can envisage thousands missing their plane due to delays completing the bureaucratic box ticking.

I would imagine if you don’t have the process sorted before, the. It’s pointless going to the airport

The EES part is having your picture taken and additionally finger prints. 

Photo routinely taken at 
Many airports already. 

Don’t see how you can do your fingerprints online beforehand if it’s to be secure?

I think it’s just been reported that first time you travel within Europe when introduced there will be an additional 5 mins to get the fingerprints first recorded - at least that’s what I’ve understood. 

How many people are on an average plane? 

Quite a few. What’s your point?

can’t say i routinely sail through many airport passport controls currently (or before Brexit) and can often recall few staff and seemingly surly staff perusing passports slowly. 

Its up to the EU as to how they will implement not the UK. 

If the EU want it then it will need to be followed. 

ShootersHillGuru

Was hoping this wouldn’t deteriorate into a Brexit thing. If it does, it’s a pity. I was hoping that that it would lead to how this was going to be implemented and what it means for the average traveller.

Gisappointed

Bournemouth Addick said:

valleynick66 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Can you arrange for the EES biometrics online before you go to airport for trip, if so, how? I can envisage thousands missing their plane due to delays completing the bureaucratic box ticking.

I would imagine if you don’t have the process sorted before, the. It’s pointless going to the airport

The EES part is having your picture taken and additionally finger prints. 

Photo routinely taken at 
Many airports already. 

Don’t see how you can do your fingerprints online beforehand if it’s to be secure?

I think it’s just been reported that first time you travel within Europe when introduced there will be an additional 5 mins to get the fingerprints first recorded - at least that’s what I’ve understood. 

How many people are on an average plane? 

And how many planes per hour? I seem to remember there are only about a dozen gates open whenever I go through. Chaos. As Chizz says, glad we've taken control of our borders for our "oven ready" transition.