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Remembering the wars.

seth plumseth plum
in Not Sports Related
My grandfather was on the Somme, my father fought in Burma, my life started post the Second World War, a lot of my teachers (looking back) were traumatised yet proud of their experiences in the war, some would have scars and wounds and bits missing.
Reflecting back, these guys, their lost comrades, people like my father and grandfather who survived were phenomenal people, and ought to be remembered.

However from my point of view there is a but.

It is about some aspect of remembrance being disneyfied and cheapened. It is now almost becoming like the Halloween event which is huge and Americanised rubbish aimed at making money out of people. 

The event ought to be about respect and reflection, but now….
Anybody bought a Tesco remembrance Pizza?




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  • AlgarveaddickAlgarveaddick
    Sad indictment of a section of society. 
  • Off_itOff_it
    Algarveaddick said:
    Sad indictment of a section of society. 
    Was it you who posted that picture last year of the back of that van with the Spitfire shooting poppies?
  • blackpool72blackpool72
    My father also fought in Burma Seth.
    Royal Artillery 
  • DaveMehmetDaveMehmet
    blackpool72 said:
    My father also fought in Burma Seth.
    Royal Artillery 
    My grandfather fought in Burma and was in the Royal Artillery 
  • shine166shine166
    RIP all those that have lost lives in wars, both at home and overseas.
  • AlgarveaddickAlgarveaddick
    edited November 10
    Off_it said:
    Algarveaddick said:
    Sad indictment of a section of society. 
    Was it you who posted that picture last year of the back of that van with the Spitfire shooting poppies?
    Vaguely rings a bell, but don't recall exactly. Memory isn't what it was, D.     
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  • JohnBoyUKJohnBoyUK
    Henry Irving said:
    I wear a poppy to remember those that fought and fell and always have but as said that picture is very old and a one off.  Not a dig as these sort of images get recycled every year deliberately to create outrage.

    What I really dislike is the pressure for everyone to wear a poppy earlier and earlier, the hounding of anyone who doesn't and the annual "Some communities have banned poppies" lie which the Royal British Legion have to refute every years.

    Wear a poppy if you want or don't if you don't want to. Isn't that the freedom that our parents and grandparents fought for?
    I was generally surprised how few of the undergrad and post-grad students were wearing poppies on two University campuses this week.  Granted some are international students but even so.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    JohnBoyUK said:
    Henry Irving said:
    I wear a poppy to remember those that fought and fell and always have but as said that picture is very old and a one off.  Not a dig as these sort of images get recycled every year deliberately to create outrage.

    What I really dislike is the pressure for everyone to wear a poppy earlier and earlier, the hounding of anyone who doesn't and the annual "Some communities have banned poppies" lie which the Royal British Legion have to refute every years.

    Wear a poppy if you want or don't if you don't want to. Isn't that the freedom that our parents and grandparents fought for?
    I was generally surprised how few of the undergrad and post-grad students were wearing poppies on two University campuses this week.  Granted some are international students but even so.
    Was working in Hammersmith and Liverpool St this week and I notice how few poppies I could see but that may be for many reasons.   We don't have to wear a poppy to remember.
  • soapy_jonessoapy_jones
    edited November 10
    Nice to see the church full this morning with cubs and brownies and others who come along for the Rememberance service.

    Also nice not to be the youngest one there for once, and i'm 61 years old!

    God bless the fallen in all wars, today and our yesterdays.
  • MrWalkerMrWalker
    Pizza photo should be removed.
  • Mendonca In AsdasMendonca In Asdas
    edited November 10
    MrWalker said:
    Pizza photo should be removed.
    I get that, but maybe it shows where are as a society, is it current?

    If it is current, then I hope a significant amount of the profits, would go help to help for Heroes, or whatever.
  • MrWalkerMrWalker
    edited November 10
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    MrWalker said:
    Pizza photo should be removed.
    I get that, but maybe it shows where are as a society, is it current?

    If it is current, then I hope a significant amount of the profits, would go help to help for Heroes, or whatever.
    It's a one off from a decade ago.
    Posted without context.
  • cfgscfgs
    Marched as a kid in the scouts, then from 18 to 50, I have been in the fire service and taken part in my local parade with pride.  A small personal contribution to honour those whose total contribution allows us to choose to celebrate as we wish.  If all the money from those pizzas go to the Royal British Legion, then it isn't for me but it will raise money for a great cause.
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  • WheresmeticketWheresmeticket
    edited November 10
    seth plum said:
    My grandfather was on the Somme, my father fought in Burma, my life started post the Second World War, a lot of my teachers (looking back) were traumatised yet proud of their experiences in the war, some would have scars and wounds and bits missing.
    Reflecting back, these guys, their lost comrades, people like my father and grandfather who survived were phenomenal people, and ought to be remembered.

    However from my point of view there is a but.

    It is about some aspect of remembrance being disneyfied and cheapened. It is now almost becoming like the Halloween event which is huge and Americanised rubbish aimed at making money out of people. 

    The event ought to be about respect and reflection, but now….
    Anybody bought a Tesco remembrance Pizza?




    God almighty that is ridiculous.

    Edit. I see thar the photo was an individual's idea, but nonetheless the post remains relevant.
  • LargeAddickLargeAddick
    @seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.
  • seth plumseth plum
    LargeAddick said:
    @seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.
    On one of the demo’s in Belgium Clive took us to a few places. Including the grave of Nobby Nightingale.

  • Off_itOff_it
    LargeAddick said:
    @seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.
    No need, he was there first time round! 😉
  • usetobunkinusetobunkin
    blackpool72 said:
    My father also fought in Burma Seth.
    Royal Artillery 
    My Dad also Burma Star veteran and RA. 
  • LargeAddickLargeAddick
    seth plum said:
    LargeAddick said:
    @seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.
    On one of the demo’s in Belgium Clive took us to a few places. Including the grave of Nobby Nightingale.

    I know, I was there too.
  • LargeAddickLargeAddick
    We have a little service on our village green. Well attended today and good to see so many of the local scouts and guides there. Two minutes silence impeccably observed by all, shame there was road noise in the background though.
  • AFKABartramAFKABartram
    edited November 10
    DaveMehmet said:
    My daughter got chosen to lay her air cadet squadron wreath at the Sidcup place memorial this morning after the parade. I wasn’t crying much, honest.
    They just don’t advertise what they do at Sidcup well enough. I went there last year and 11am at the memorial there was just me, my lad and about 10 others. A muffled speaker from the church and that was it. No clue on parade timings and route. Wished it was better organised. 

    I went Eltham this year, 100s there. Marching band gets me every time. 

    Well done your daughter @d@DaveMehmet . I’ve seen a video with you in mate and it looked a great parade 

  • DaveMehmetDaveMehmet
    Thanks mate, it was a special day for us. 

    Agree about the advertising of it though, considering they had the local MP plus veterans included in the parade, it wasn’t advertised at all. There weren’t even any notices about the high st and road from the church to the memorial being closed (albeit it wasn’t for that long). 
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