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Charlton heading to Slovenia for 2024/25 Pre-Season
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Unusual train and a brick viaduct. This should have an NSFW warning.North Lower Neil said:
We got a cool train there, while I remember!!Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
Page one and the train chat has started - proper Charlton 🚂Masterbrew said:And there is also the exceptionally scenic railway from Bled to Nova Gorica!
It was one you could drive cars onto the trailer, a bit like Eurotunnel with no roof, then you can stand around out of the car watching the world go past, go under the mountains etc.
Also, overtaking could be an issue.4 -
Definitely wouldn't be allowed!killerandflash said:
I can't imagine our Health and Safety rules allowing people to stand outside like that! I imagine it got quite breezyNorth Lower Neil said:
We got a cool train there, while I remember!!Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
Page one and the train chat has started - proper Charlton 🚂Masterbrew said:And there is also the exceptionally scenic railway from Bled to Nova Gorica!
It was one you could drive cars onto the trailer, a bit like Eurotunnel with no roof, then you can stand around out of the car watching the world go past, go under the mountains etc.
Wasn't too bad actually, it wasn't that fast, which was decent given you could enjoy the scenery more.1 -
Whats the likelihood of fans being able to go out and watch a game? If they have one of course!0
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There certainly will be at least one game, it's just a question of venue.king addick said:Whats the likelihood of fans being able to go out and watch a game? If they have one of course!0 -
Has a very small coast line I believe.
Very mountainous and extraordinarily beautiful.
Had a hankering to visit a few years back but very much regret not having done so.0 -
Treat yourself to a few days away.SoundAsa£ said:Has a very small coast line I believe.
Very mountainous and extraordinarily beautiful.
Had a hankering to visit a few years back but very much regret not having done so.0 -
Only 3 hours by coach to Venice as well.0
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What time does it leave Bexleyheath?msomerton said:Only 3 hours by coach to Venice as well.19 -
and opponents.ElfsborgAddick said:
There certainly will be at least one game, it's just a question of venue.king addick said:Whats the likelihood of fans being able to go out and watch a game? If they have one of course!
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In about two months time.GetYerCoreyOut said:
What time does it leave Bexleyheath?msomerton said:Only 3 hours by coach to Venice as well.0 -
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Larkfield coach leaves at 11am
....tomorrow5 -
I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.2
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Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.19 -
Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club7 -
I’m not suggesting they organise a training camp based around fans.Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.I have been to a couple of overseas training games and sat on the sidelines to watch.As I said, some will want to go and watch if they play a game.3 -
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club25 -
After the success of last year' tour where we had a coach under investigation from the FA pictured on official club channels with supporters, probably better if the club play this very low key5
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Roda, Lyngby and Valencia had between 60 and 250 at these games, I was there, and zero problems.AFKABartram said:
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club0 -
AFKABartram said:
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club
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For supporters that go away regularly, pre-season is an opportunity to go to new places and grounds0
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For me, these games abroad are training matches rather than pre season friendlies.4
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I dont think all fans are the same. From my view, it would be good to see what they have been working on in a game against a local team, see them try new things etc.AFKABartram said:
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club
Last one was in Malaga also which is pretty famous for pissed up people who can make a week of it! Dont think Slovenia would have that appeal for people wanting to get on the beers!
plus....only chance ill get to see Charlton in Europe! haha!1 -
Isn’t the reality these events have just become an opportunity primarily to lure our wealthier sponsors along and keep them involved? Some other fans have also been able to be associated with it but as others have said it’s a training event not a pre season friendly.I can’t see any grounds to object if it’s a non public thing.1
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said at the time that celebration was embarrassing and would bite us on the arse....Scoham said:AFKABartram said:
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club
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Yes, the fans may well be regarded as the club. But, if those fans want to support a better team than the one that's finished in the club's lowest position for almost a century, then the team should be afforded the best-possible preparation by a Manager focused solely on the things that are most important.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club
Some of the things that are most important
Reinforcing the strength of the playing squad
Setting a playing style that's understood by the players
Engendering complete commitment from the squad
Training the players to an excellent level of sustainable fitness
Establishing excellence in every aspect of playing, training, fitness levels and health
One of the things that isn't important
Worrying whether the location for a pre-season training camp will work for some of the fans9 -
Most energy and commitment I've seen Kirk put in on a football pitch during it though.Elthamaddick said:
said at the time that celebration was embarrassing and would bite us on the arse....Scoham said:AFKABartram said:
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club2 -
So our most loyal fans are a pain?AFKABartram said:
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club
I should think 90% of the fans who go on these tours go near enough week in week out.
If there was 200 fans out there we'd probably know half of them.
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Fans should 100% not be a consideration where the team goes on a pre-season tour. It should be a place where the manager, coaching staff think is best. If that aligns with fans great, if not tough luck.11
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Ain’t what you want to hear but yes, NJ (and most competent managers) will see it that way on this point specifically.clb74 said:
So our most loyal fans are a pain?AFKABartram said:
If I was a manager I’d insist on non-fan training camps. Last thing I’d want is the distraction of pissed up blokes, obsessives being a pain and any potential thing being caught on camera. You’re there to do a specific job of preparation for the season ahead and to forge a team togetherness. Fans are just a distraction I reckon and bring a caution to the whole thing. Just my view.clb74 said:Chizz said:
Pre-season training camp should be arranged exclusively for what's in the best interest of the manager, coaches and playing personnel. It shouldn't be organised in order to accommodate fans.Valiantphil said:I know NJ has his quirks, but he has to realise that some will want to go and watch if they play a game.
If fans can go and see a match during the camp, then great. But that's the least important part of the trip.
You having a laugh?
The fans are the club
I should think 90% of the fans who go on these tours go near enough week in week out.
If there was 200 fans out there we'd probably know half of them.
We can have another player/fan jolly in Spain and finish 16th if you’d like…
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Is it reach the premiership at any cost then?
Who said anything about the fans being consulted about where the friendlies are played?
Just be nice if the fans could watch a game.
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