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Hospitality evening at The Valley
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Steve and Charlie gave some details about the hospitality packages available next year and a bit about the general long-term plans for the club, fed us, and had a Q&A with Nathan. Entertaining, nothing groundbreaking, but everyone came over very well.
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How does the pricing on next seasons packages compare with this season?0
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Don’t know this season’s prices so can’t say.se9addick said:How does the pricing on next seasons packages compare with this season?0 -
The post that has no point. At least you asked NJ about Dobbo right?AddicksAddict said:
Don’t know this season’s prices so can’t say.se9addick said:How does the pricing on next seasons packages compare with this season?1 -
You have to be seriously posh to attempt that get up.AddicksAddict said:Steve and Charlie gave some details about the hospitality packages available next year and a bit about the general long-term plans for the club, fed us, and had a Q&A with Nathan. Entertaining, nothing groundbreaking, but everyone came over very well.5 -
Or an ice cream salesman.HandG said:
You have to be seriously posh to attempt that get up.AddicksAddict said:Steve and Charlie gave some details about the hospitality packages available next year and a bit about the general long-term plans for the club, fed us, and had a Q&A with Nathan. Entertaining, nothing groundbreaking, but everyone came over very well.10 -
He's looking a bit Delboy in that picture0
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Only question from the floor surrounding player transfers and contracts related to strategy around loans - NJ - will be fewer in number - focus on perms as far as possible going forward and Small - he is locked down - period not quoted, but suspect that confirms that the extension trigger is at our discretion.Enjoyed the evening and it all felt as positive as our recent run. Well done to Steve Sutherland and team for co-ordinating the event. COYRs!4
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I asked about Chucks.PopIcon said:
The post that has no point. At least you asked NJ about Dobbo right?AddicksAddict said:
Don’t know this season’s prices so can’t say.se9addick said:How does the pricing on next seasons packages compare with this season?1 -
Didn’t we hear that last summer too?Pavoren007 said:Only question from the floor surrounding player transfers and contracts related to strategy around loans - NJ - will be fewer in number - focus on perms as far as possible going forward and Small - he is locked down - period not quoted, but suspect that confirms that the extension trigger is at our discretion.Enjoyed the evening and it all felt as positive as our recent run. Well done to Steve Sutherland and team for co-ordinating the event. COYRs!2 -
We certainly heard it a week before we signed Bakinson and Fiorini on loan.se9addick said:
Didn’t we hear that last summer too?Pavoren007 said:Only question from the floor surrounding player transfers and contracts related to strategy around loans - NJ - will be fewer in number - focus on perms as far as possible going forward and Small - he is locked down - period not quoted, but suspect that confirms that the extension trigger is at our discretion.Enjoyed the evening and it all felt as positive as our recent run. Well done to Steve Sutherland and team for co-ordinating the event. COYRs!3 -
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Perhaps this time the difference is, on recent form, the manager looks like he has a clue?
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Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.2
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No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.7 -
It's changing slightly but from what I could see the ticket I have now will be staying around the same price as this season but will now have a slightly different name.se9addick said:How does the pricing on next seasons packages compare with this season?
It was a good evening and it was really good to have a chat with Nathan and for him to then do a brief Q&A. Funnily enough he was just as open and transparent as you would expect him to be. Comes across very well
As did Charlie. In fairness I gave him a hard time at the beginning but he's always very erudite and honest with me and I firmly believe he is in this to succeed. He is the conduit between the money men and the senior management team. He is also not too proud to call upon the experience of previous senior staff and he said he's regularly in touch with Richard Murray, Roger Alwen, Martyn simons and Peter Varney for their opinions.
I must also say it is starting to look like this might be an exciting few years coming up. Hopefully we continue moving forwards on the pitch but there are also a lot of good things happening behind the scenes with coaching and the medical team etc. We are getting the right people in the right jobs - when was the last time we said that about Charlton??18 -
Isn’t that the remit of the Managing Director (Rodwell)?Swisdom said:
No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.1 -
Maybe a football vrs commercial difference?AFKABartram said:
Isn’t that the remit of the Managing Director (Rodwell)?Swisdom said:
No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.0 -
It's the remit of the whole of the senior management team I suppose. Jim Rodwell was present but didn't speak. Hospitality is something Charie is well versed in and has worked on it for Arsenal and Spurs amongst others so clearly this evening was more in his wheelhouse than anyone else hence he did a lot of the talkingAFKABartram said:
Isn’t that the remit of the Managing Director (Rodwell)?Swisdom said:
No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.2 -
Not too sure why anyone would be alarmed by the presence of CM at these types of things. If he is hatching a dastardly plan, he can do that from Boccacabana Beach Sea Front, he's not got to personally turn up down the ground to push the hospitality side of things.3
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I know I sound cynical but just baffles me that a heavy loss making club our size has above department heads a Managing Director, a Sporting Director, a Technical Director, a Finance Director and above all that a Minister Without Portfolio corporate shmoozer!Swisdom said:
It's the remit of the whole of the senior management team I suppose. Jim Rodwell was present but didn't speak. Hospitality is something Charie is well versed in and has worked on it for Arsenal and Spurs amongst others so clearly this evening was more in his wheelhouse than anyone else hence he did a lot of the talkingAFKABartram said:
Isn’t that the remit of the Managing Director (Rodwell)?Swisdom said:
No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.Still, at the end of the day it’s not my money. Just find it massively too heavy.13 -
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And it’s not necessarily a bad thing. The club loses money hand over fist, so ownership (in the form of CM) taking this sort of stuff doesn’t bother me.Gribbo said:Not too sure why anyone would be alarmed by the presence of CM at these types of things. If he is hatching a dastardly plan, he can do that from Boccacabana Beach Sea Front, he's not got to personally turn up down the ground to push the hospitality side of things.0 -
‘Oversees the strategic thinking of the club’.Swisdom said:
No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.
Do you really mean that, because that statement is one that raises more questions than answers?1 -
In summary - Thomas called in Charlie to help him and advise him. Charlie suggested hiring good quality people at the top of the business to make better strategic decisions. Thomas' ego wouldn't go for that as he wants to do everything himself - but realised he can't so he decided to sell.AFKABartram said:
I know I sound cynical but just baffles me that a heavy loss making club our size has above department heads a Managing Director, a Sporting Director, a Technical Director, a Finance Director and above all that a Minister Without Portfolio corporate shmoozer!Swisdom said:
It's the remit of the whole of the senior management team I suppose. Jim Rodwell was present but didn't speak. Hospitality is something Charie is well versed in and has worked on it for Arsenal and Spurs amongst others so clearly this evening was more in his wheelhouse than anyone else hence he did a lot of the talkingAFKABartram said:
Isn’t that the remit of the Managing Director (Rodwell)?Swisdom said:
No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.Still, at the end of the day it’s not my money. Just find it massively too heavy.
Charlie gathered together a group of investors.
Sold the idea of Charlton to them - "8th best academy in the country, best community trust in the country, 12th best womens team in the country, large ground in good condition, space to expand the stadium if that's the desire (more so than many clubs). All things that make us appealing and unique as well as some stats about our catchment area and potential fan base. They can see a huge amount of potential growth.
So the management structure is split to allocate specific roles and responsibilities to specific people without spreading people too thin. It's basically the opposite of what Thomas was trying to achieve which was just bottleneck.
Whether it is TOO top heavy remains to be seen. Whether there are too many chiefs and not enough indians remains to be seen.
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Small, Coventry, REG, Gillesphy on perms in January I think were more indicators of course of direction. We have had previous windows with 3-5 loans no perms. My sense was it will take time, but NJ and the owners want their own pool of talent with lots of assets within it. Understandably (and this was not said) some of those assets will be sold and some will help us kick on.se9addick said:
Didn’t we hear that last summer too?Pavoren007 said:Only question from the floor surrounding player transfers and contracts related to strategy around loans - NJ - will be fewer in number - focus on perms as far as possible going forward and Small - he is locked down - period not quoted, but suspect that confirms that the extension trigger is at our discretion.Enjoyed the evening and it all felt as positive as our recent run. Well done to Steve Sutherland and team for co-ordinating the event. COYRs!
Perhaps the upturn in form is influencing the tint of my spectacles, but I for the first time in many years (I did get sucked into Sandgaard’s ‘moment’ of enthusiasm for his first 6 months in charge) feel that we are a club on the up and focused on better times.Fwiw too, I had never heard from CM in a live setting before last night and was relieved to hear his candour and see his commitment on display. The latter point was evidenced by him clearly having done preparatory work on the presentations he gave - there was no winging it. He was clear on course of direction, partnerships, rationale behind said partnerships etc.
The most exciting of those developments was the Mountain to Valley partnership which was confirmed to give CAFC first refusal on any player graduating from the Mount Pleasant Academy based in Jamaica but drawing from all of the elite young players across the Caribbean islands. The thought of first dibs on a Leon Bailey or Dwight Yorke of the future coming to the Valley sounds like a great prospective route to boosting our academy pool.5 -
Has the dynamic changed at all with the arrival of Jones?Swisdom said:
In summary - Thomas called in Charlie to help him and advise him. Charlie suggested hiring good quality people at the top of the business to make better strategic decisions. Thomas' ego wouldn't go for that as he wants to do everything himself - but realised he can't so he decided to sell.AFKABartram said:
I know I sound cynical but just baffles me that a heavy loss making club our size has above department heads a Managing Director, a Sporting Director, a Technical Director, a Finance Director and above all that a Minister Without Portfolio corporate shmoozer!Swisdom said:
It's the remit of the whole of the senior management team I suppose. Jim Rodwell was present but didn't speak. Hospitality is something Charie is well versed in and has worked on it for Arsenal and Spurs amongst others so clearly this evening was more in his wheelhouse than anyone else hence he did a lot of the talkingAFKABartram said:
Isn’t that the remit of the Managing Director (Rodwell)?Swisdom said:
No. Running the team is for others. He doesn't get involved in the playing side of things.seth plum said:Why is Methven there?He says the running of the club is for others.
He was there because this is very much under his remit as it related to the income of the club and he oversees the strategic thinking of the club. With the likes of Steve Sutherland reporting in to him.Still, at the end of the day it’s not my money. Just find it massively too heavy.
Charlie gathered together a group of investors.
Sold the idea of Charlton to them - "8th best academy in the country, best community trust in the country, 12th best womens team in the country, large ground in good condition, space to expand the stadium if that's the desire (more so than many clubs). All things that make us appealing and unique as well as some stats about our catchment area and potential fan base. They can see a huge amount of potential growth.
So the management structure is split to allocate specific roles and responsibilities to specific people without spreading people too thin. It's basically the opposite of what Thomas was trying to achieve which was just bottleneck.
Whether it is TOO top heavy remains to be seen. Whether there are too many chiefs and not enough indians remains to be seen.
Andy Scott has been noticeably quiet since he arrived. Was the rumour that that the investor group pulled rank on their SMT and pushed for Jones?0 -
I am now assuming that on either an hourly, daily, weekly or monthly basis Charlie Methven somehow gathers his underlings and demands to know what they have been thinking…strategically, and then in his role as overseer goes ‘OK I have investigated your strategic thinking, heard about it, thanks guys’.
And then what?
Exercises no decision making of his own?
Or does he control the purse strings, as in ‘I have now overseen your strategic thinking, but have unilaterally decided we can pay for this thing, but not that thing’. None of which are his own ideas or plans.
If I am right the bloke who says he is a mere minority shareholder is actually in charge.3 -
Is this really worth being remotely important……I am going to stick my neck out here and say no one gives a fuck whether he was there or not …..except you that is. 😴seth plum said:I am now assuming that on either an hourly, daily, weekly or monthly basis Charlie Methven somehow gathers his underlings and demands to know what they have been thinking…strategically, and then in his role as overseer goes ‘OK I have investigated your strategic thinking, heard about it, thanks guys’.
And then what?
Exercises no decision making of his own?
Or does he control the purse strings, as in ‘I have now overseen your strategic thinking, but have unilaterally decided we can pay for this thing, but not that thing’. None of which are his own ideas or plans.
If I am right the bloke who says he is a mere minority shareholder is actually in charge.
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I see very little point in explaining any more because he could find a cure for cancer and you'd complain it took him too long. You don't like him and you're prepared to die on that hill aren't you!seth plum said:I am now assuming that on either an hourly, daily, weekly or monthly basis Charlie Methven somehow gathers his underlings and demands to know what they have been thinking…strategically, and then in his role as overseer goes ‘OK I have investigated your strategic thinking, heard about it, thanks guys’.
And then what?
Exercises no decision making of his own?
Or does he control the purse strings, as in ‘I have now overseen your strategic thinking, but have unilaterally decided we can pay for this thing, but not that thing’. None of which are his own ideas or plans.
If I am right the bloke who says he is a mere minority shareholder is actually in charge.
At the end of the day he was there last night. He spoke - and spoke well. The future could be very bright. There will inevitably be bumps in the road but we are secure so perhaps you could just enjoy it and embrace it
And btw - yes, there was a vegetarian option available last night14 -
So Methven calls the shots.
Maybe that is interesting to nobody else but me.
We were all interested when it was Glicksten, Hulyer, Fryer, Alwen, Murray, the Spivs, Duchatelet, Nimer, and Sandgaard but this lot are exempt from scrutiny seemingly.3 -
Don't even think it's a fne line between justified scrutiny and full on harassment, whenever the blokes name comes up.8
