Trident Missile Test Failure - Again

ShootersHillGuru

A test firing from a Royal Navy submarine of a Trident Nuclear Missile has ended in failure. Each missile and therefore test costs £17 million plus. The last test in 2016 also ended in failure. How confident are we that the U.K. actually has a functioning nuclear deterrent ? Bit embarrassing if on the day we all hope never comes, we press the button and all we get is the sound of a wet fart. 

Trident missile test fails for second time in a row https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68355395

seth plum

Not a deterrent, never was, an expensive joke to satisfy the military industrial complex with money much better spent elsewhere.

JohnnyH2

https://youtu.be/P7YR6WICIAI?si=4y6e-YclUTGrRw2t

ThreadKiller

If we are firing the missile for real we are likely already dead anyway so not going to care if it makes the sound of a wet fart or not

Stu_of_Kunming

ThreadKiller said:

If we are firing the missile for real we are likely already dead anyway so not going to care if it makes the sound of a wet fart or not

The threat of it working is kinda important though.

Absolute shambles.

Karim_myBagheri

I'm surprised we even know where the submarine is nevermind if it works or not. 

Hal1x

Thats it, Putin will be at us soon, get your tin hats ready and clear out your under stairs cupboards 

Karim_myBagheri

So we got lord Cameron jetting over to the Falklands to warn the argies to not mess with us. We are contemplating whether to tell Israel off, we are sending gawd knows what working weapons to the Ukrainians in their war with Russia, we got Iran who are possibly supporting the houthies whilst another one of our tankers gets attacked and here we are telling the whole world we can't even fire a fucking missile which we have spent countless millions on. 

Stu_of_Kunming

Karim_myBagheri said:

So we got lord Cameron jetting over to the Falklands to warn the argies to not mess with us. We are contemplating whether to tell Israel off, we are sending gawd knows what working weapons to the Ukrainians in their war with Russia, we got Iran who are 1. possibly supporting the houthies whilst another one of our tankers gets attacked and here we are telling the whole world we can't even fire a fucking missile which we have spent countless 2. millions on. 

1. Possibly?
2. Billions! 

It’s beyond a joke. 

Macronate

They’ve released exclusive footage of the launch:

Friend Or Defoe

That's nearly enough to rebrand the Overground 3 times over.

Probably shouldn't be publicly revealing these tests failed.

Six-a-bag-of-nuts

Does that mean there is a live nuclear missile swilling around on the seabed waiting trigger to a radioactive Bouillabaisse?

Six-a-bag-of-nuts

In your face Putin. Oh, actually in our face

The Prince-e-Paul

Hal1x said:

Thats it, Putin will be at us soon, get your tin hats ready and clear out your under stairs cupboards 

Joking aside, the Putin threat is being taken very, very seriously here in Sweden. Already my wife (who is a nurse, so is in the military numbers) has been given her war postings, in the event of an outbreak of war. My brother-in-law (also a nurse, but in the reserve army), has been in recent military exercises and is being issued an assault rifle to be kept in the house, so that nobody is off guard, and that if in the event of an outbreak, the Swedish munitions stations were to be bombed, then there are stocks with every soldier. 

It's all very serious here and a conversation nobody wants to discuss as being a reality, but many are expectant about, is an outbreak of war with Russia within the next year, similar to Ukraine.

I think that is the reason why Sweden is keen to get the NATO deal over the line.

One advantage, if you can call it that, is that Swedes continue to do National Service in their later teens and so learn the basics of combat. Even the nephew who is a passifist, has done a few tours in Afghanistan. 

SporadicAddick

ShootersHillGuru said:

A test firing from a Royal Navy submarine of a Trident Nuclear Missile has ended in failure. Each missile and therefore test costs £17 million plus. The last test in 2016 also ended in failure. How confident are we that the U.K. actually has a functioning nuclear deterrent ? Bit embarrassing if on the day we all hope never comes, we press the button and all we get is the sound of a wet fart. 

Trident missile test fails for second time in a row https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68355395

I'm pretty confident that in the event of the need to deploy a nuclear weapon, the combined forces of NATO's nuclear capable countries (US, UK, France) and their estimated 4,223 nuclear warheads would do the job they need to do, either as a limited tactical strike or as part of a comprehensive attack in the context of mutually assured destruction. 

The nuclear deterrent has effectively held the peace between East and West for nigh on 80 years - and it's important that it remains a viable option, moreso now than ever.  

The Prince-e-Paul

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Karim_myBagheri said:

So we got lord Cameron jetting over to the Falklands to warn the argies to not mess with us. We are contemplating whether to tell Israel off, we are sending gawd knows what working weapons to the Ukrainians in their war with Russia, we got Iran who are 1. possibly supporting the houthies whilst another one of our tankers gets attacked and here we are telling the whole world we can't even fire a fucking missile which we have spent countless 2. millions on. 

1. Possibly?
2. Billions! 

It’s beyond a joke. 

Pretty sure if we reallocated the spend on Trident we could solve the spending gap in health, education and infrastructure in one go. 

ShootersHillGuru

The Prince-e-Paul said:

Hal1x said:

Thats it, Putin will be at us soon, get your tin hats ready and clear out your under stairs cupboards 

Joking aside, the Putin threat is being taken very, very seriously here in Sweden. Already my wife (who is a nurse, so is in the military numbers) has been given her war postings, in the event of an outbreak of war. My brother-in-law (also a nurse, but in the reserve army), has been in recent military exercises and is being issued an assault rifle to be kept in the house, so that nobody is off guard, and that if in the event of an outbreak, the Swedish munitions stations were to be bombed, then there are stocks with every soldier. 

It's all very serious here and a conversation nobody wants to discuss as being a reality, but many are expectant about, is an outbreak of war with Russia within the next year, similar to Ukraine.

I think that is the reason why Sweden is keen to get the NATO deal over the line.

One advantage, if you can call it that, is that Swedes continue to do National Service in their later teens and so learn the basics of combat. Even the nephew who is a passifist, has done a few tours in Afghanistan. 

Very informative and not a little worrying. I’m of the opinion that if Putin has intentions of getting all uppity then he’d likely wait until his pal Trump is back in The White House.

bobmunro

It's ok - we've got the carriers to protect us.

Oh wait ....

ShootersHillGuru

We’ll be alright. Don’t forget

Six-a-bag-of-nuts

So, whilst that frequent figure of western ridicule Kim Jong Un is regularly peppering the Sea of Japan with successful missile launches, the best we can muster is a Tom and Jerry impersonation every 8 years. Impressive

ShootersHillGuru

If I were a cynic I might be persuaded to think that the publicising of this national embarrassment might be the prelude to a call from the military and politicians with definitely no connection’s with or to the arms industry to upgrade our nuclear deterrent to something that is shiny, new, cost gazzilions and as a bonus might actually work.

bobmunro

ShootersHillGuru said:

If I were a cynic I might be persuaded to think that the publicising of this national embarrassment might be the prelude to a call from the military and politicians with definitely no connection’s with or to the arms industry to upgrade our nuclear deterrent to something that is shiny, new, cost gazzilions and as a bonus might actually work.

I've heard Baroness Mone's husband (nothing to do with her of course) owns a company just set up called Nukes'r'Us. Can't think of any obvious connection to sleaze, corruption and greed though.

Karim_myBagheri

Looking forward to the next private eye for their view on this complete fuck up. 

MrOneLung

Just lulling Putin into a false sense of security before assassinating him .....

Karim_myBagheri

MrOneLung said:

Just lulling Putin into a false sense of security before assassinating him .....

Guess we could knock him out by chucking the missile at his head. 

ShootersHillGuru

Karim_myBagheri said:

MrOneLung said:

Just lulling Putin into a false sense of security before assassinating him .....

Guess we could knock him out by chucking the missile at his head. 

Only if you stand very close to him.

cafc999

We could have spent that money making the air cleaner in London and the surrounding areas

golfaddick

Very reassuring to be told that it WILL work when needed and this was only a test. 

Right-o then. 

Might as well get did of them but tell everyone we still have them. No one will know, because if the time came that we needed to launch them no-one would be left afterwards to say whether ours worked or if they were dummies. 

golfaddick

Sir Humphrey said it was the one Harrods would sell you.

I'd be taking it back to Harrods & complaining. 

ShootersHillGuru

golfaddick said:

Very reassuring to be told that it WILL work when needed and this was only a test. 

Right-o then. 

Might as well get did of them but tell everyone we still have them. No one will know, because if the time came that we needed to launch them no-one would be left afterwards to say whether ours worked or if they were dummies. 

Wasn’t Grant Shapps that said they’ll work was it ? 

Karim_myBagheri

golfaddick said:

Very reassuring to be told that it WILL work when needed and this was only a test. 

Right-o then. 

Might as well get did of them but tell everyone we still have them. No one will know, because if the time came that we needed to launch them no-one would be left afterwards to say whether ours worked or if they were dummies. 

 probably when we do need it we will tell the rest of the world to hang on a bit as we need to warm it up first.