Parkinson teams didn’t play good football, but in L1 he got results and that was with a limited budget, never paying fees for anyone. We lost in the playoffs and were still in them when he was sacked.
Some on that list had £1m+ signings - Pardew had several, in the RD era we had Vetokele and Sarr plus good frees/loans like JBG, Buyens and so on.
I think a lot of managers on that list would have found it tough had they managed Parkinson’s squads.
But by that same token I think Parkinson of 2008/9 would have struggled with a side with Sarr, BFG, Buyen, Kashi, JBG, and Igor in it. Yes, at times he did well with a bad team, but I think it was also a team that suited him.
Parkinson teams didn’t play good football, but in L1 he got results and that was with a limited budget, never paying fees for anyone. We lost in the playoffs and were still in them when he was sacked.
Some on that list had £1m+ signings - Pardew had several, in the RD era we had Vetokele and Sarr plus good frees/loans like JBG, Buyens and so on.
I think a lot of managers on that list would have found it tough had they managed Parkinson’s squads.
But by that same token I think Parkinson of 2008/9 would have struggled with a side with Sarr, BFG, Buyen, Kashi, JBG, and Igor in it. Yes, at times he did well with a bad team, but I think it was also a team that suited him.
Better players could only have helped him, but I agree he’s not who you’d want managing a team with players capable of a more attacking and exciting style.
The Riga love in is something I found baffling at the time and even more baffling now.
We were never going down that season.
You're probably right, but Roland had just bought the club after the previous pair of jokers had nearly took us into admin and with it a points deduction. Unfortunately when we needed boardroom stability he started signing players behind the manager's back and then gave CP grief when he didn't play them which forced Chris Powell out.
We were slowly imploding, Jose Riga came in and steadied things and prevented relegation from happening or being an issue.
Maybe Riga's got one more Charlton spell in him. We could do with a manager with a decent relegation fighting pedigree and like others have said he seemed a decent bloke as well
I think it's fair to say he had a mixed record in that regard.
One out of two given we appeared to be relegation certainties on both occasions isn't something I'd knock him for.
We can add Jones to that top 3 now! Below SCP and Bowyer for me. Bowyer achieved promotion under such tough conditions, but I'm confident that Jones will be able to take us further next season.
It's nice to be able to take a look at that list now, with the majority of those names firmly in the past.
The Riga love in is something I found baffling at the time and even more baffling now.
We were never going down that season.
You're probably right, but Roland had just bought the club after the previous pair of jokers had nearly took us into admin and with it a points deduction. Unfortunately when we needed boardroom stability he started signing players behind the manager's back and then gave CP grief when he didn't play them which forced Chris Powell out.
We were slowly imploding, Jose Riga came in and steadied things and prevented relegation from happening or being an issue.
And he was new to English football. One thing bringing in Neil Warnock to steady the ship its another bringing in a foreign manager who probably didn't know the difference between Charlton & Cheltenham.
Interesting how Robinson, who was always a bit of a Marmite manager, has barely had a mention here. Most of the debate seems to be about Parky — with one side saying he was useless and always has been, and the other arguing he did a decent job with limited resources.
Karl Robinson is clearly a capable coach and seems like a decent bloke. I never wanted him here due to his connection with the franchise which is childish on my part.
Russel Slade, horrible style of football, felt like shitarse and shitarse were appointing an English manager out of spite
Kevin Nugent, put a bit of dynamism into the games he had and felt he was as worthy of a chance as anyone at the time
Fraeye, less said about him the better
Riga, Peeters and Luzon, too closely associated with dumb and dumber. Didnt like any of them, nothing personal
Chris Powell, loved him, still do. A bit tactically one dimensional if I'm being critical and did not think he was a good choice at the time as Parkinson was doing a decent job with what he had
Pardew, he can get knotted. An unpleasant person, tactically inept, his management seems to be along the lines of rolling the dice constantly with incoming transfers and seeing what happens. I'm annoyed as my dislike of him is down to how he behaved when the chips were down, I blame Graham Poll and our failure to clear a set piece more than I do Pardew for our relegation I just don't like him
Lee Bowyer, did fantastic. I said when he joined the coaching staff that if was able to impart just 5% of his desire and attitude not to mention how he played the game onto our players we will do well. I don't blame him for the relegation, he was not backed and also I thought was left hung out to dry
Johnnie Jackson, was a stupid decision to sack him. Did remarkably well, felt the players and the ownership let him down
Adkins, Garner, Holden, Appleton. Whatever, dont blame any of them for taking the job Adkins did my head in at times but seemed a good bloke, Appleton, Holden and Garner I felt were at best naive tactically and didn't warm to any of them as much as I'm sure they are decent people.
Phil Parkinson did as much as he could with bugger all resources. Wish he had played Jonjo more as he was the only one in that squad along with maybe Jacko who carried genuine match winning quality. I think Phil Parkinson will say himself he didn't know how to best use Jonjo. I'd have put him in a free role and accepted he will make a few mistakes but win us a lot of games. I rated Phil Parkinson as a player, proper hard bastard for Reading and feel he gets the piss taken out of him a lot, has real pedigree as a manager now even if I'm not sure what his strengths are as a manager
Nathan Jones, I think is the best coach of them all. He has years under his belt doing what he does, said when we got him I was shocked and in a good way. I was hoping for Rowett as I did not think we would be able to convince Jones to come here or that we would be on his radar but his impact, immediate and ongoing is testament to what good coaches can do. The way we have gone from being the most maddeningly easy team to score past to how we defend now and can be a low margin but effective side that must be horrible to play against especially if we go a goal up is brilliant.
SCP still no.1 for me post-Curbs but can see why some would have Jones 2nd there. Bit of a coin flip between him and Bowyer. Bowyer had a better team, so Jones probably edges it.
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We were never going down that season.
We were slowly imploding, Jose Riga came in and steadied things and prevented relegation from happening or being an issue.
It's nice to be able to take a look at that list now, with the majority of those names firmly in the past.
Russel Slade, horrible style of football, felt like shitarse and shitarse were appointing an English manager out of spite
Kevin Nugent, put a bit of dynamism into the games he had and felt he was as worthy of a chance as anyone at the time
Fraeye, less said about him the better
Riga, Peeters and Luzon, too closely associated with dumb and dumber. Didnt like any of them, nothing personal
Chris Powell, loved him, still do. A bit tactically one dimensional if I'm being critical and did not think he was a good choice at the time as Parkinson was doing a decent job with what he had
Pardew, he can get knotted. An unpleasant person, tactically inept, his management seems to be along the lines of rolling the dice constantly with incoming transfers and seeing what happens. I'm annoyed as my dislike of him is down to how he behaved when the chips were down, I blame Graham Poll and our failure to clear a set piece more than I do Pardew for our relegation I just don't like him
Lee Bowyer, did fantastic. I said when he joined the coaching staff that if was able to impart just 5% of his desire and attitude not to mention how he played the game onto our players we will do well. I don't blame him for the relegation, he was not backed and also I thought was left hung out to dry
Johnnie Jackson, was a stupid decision to sack him. Did remarkably well, felt the players and the ownership let him down
Adkins, Garner, Holden, Appleton. Whatever, dont blame any of them for taking the job Adkins did my head in at times but seemed a good bloke, Appleton, Holden and Garner I felt were at best naive tactically and didn't warm to any of them as much as I'm sure they are decent people.
Phil Parkinson did as much as he could with bugger all resources. Wish he had played Jonjo more as he was the only one in that squad along with maybe Jacko who carried genuine match winning quality. I think Phil Parkinson will say himself he didn't know how to best use Jonjo. I'd have put him in a free role and accepted he will make a few mistakes but win us a lot of games. I rated Phil Parkinson as a player, proper hard bastard for Reading and feel he gets the piss taken out of him a lot, has real pedigree as a manager now even if I'm not sure what his strengths are as a manager