Not watching it myself tonight, knew there would be no clear answers and I would be even more depressed than normal. Thank you to all of you who did watch and confirm my thoughts on their answers.
I've sat through a few board presetations in my time and that was particularly tedious. Looking at the few slides they had I'd say they were from a presentation to the investors/owners explaining what they planned to do...hence the 'management speak' and tone of the "speak". I suspect they reused the slides for this meeting - competely missing the point and not addressing their key stakeholders with adequate messages (to keep with the management speak).
I honestly doubted the vision behind it all but thought they addressed all the questions well, so much talk of scripted questions but they clearly answered some difficult ones? They conceded that it's not gone amazingly well so far but are committed to improvement? Much better than the last 4 boards have presented imo
You're easily pleased.
Rather that than approach everything everyone says with cynicism. What out of interest did you think it was missing and wasn't addressed amongst general fan concerns?
Are we going to stop signing loan players either currently injured or just coming back from injury because it hasn't served us well so far
If we have identified targets, have money to spend, why have we not spent any of it yet
If Andy Scott's performance isn't measured by results, what is it measured by
If training is going so well nowadays why do we only have one formation we can play, haven't kept a clean sheet in 13 games and only won once in 10 games and conceded a goal in 80+ minutes in the last seven games in a row
- did Rodwell really say - "Where could we sign anyone from that is better than Karoy Anderson?" ?
- did they intimate that CBT & Dobson would be sold this window?
1. No he didn't phrase it like and as per the status quo at the moment our fans are being melodramatic in response to a quote about how we've asked a lot of young players this season dude to injuries
2. They made it clear we've made what they consider good offers to both of them but the ball is in their court regarding signing, it didn't sound overly promising in that regard but they can't force them at gunpoint to sign a new deal
Didn’t watch - judging by the comments, didn’t matter - enjoyed watching re-runs of ‘Bangers and Cash’ though, some cracking fast Ford’s from the 80’s incl 👊
If all their sentences are always this long how does anything ever get done?
Rodwell & Scott did the same at Bromley Addicks. Endless waffle to avoid having to specifically address the question/issue. When I put a difficult question to Scott that he couldn't answer, he turned it into a joke at my expense to avoid answering. I knew then the measure of the man. he should have held his hands up and said we've made some very poor signings.
This lot don't have a clue or a plan do they? Just in it for an easy paycheck from their American backers they've managed to rope in. My only question is how long before the American backers wake up and see they've been sold a pup
If the deals offered to CBT and Dobbo aren't deamed to be good enough for our own so-called elite players, that are idolised by fans, do they really expect elite players at other clubs, that can already see our club is in disarray, will think differently.
I honestly doubted the vision behind it all but thought they addressed all the questions well, so much talk of scripted questions but they clearly answered some difficult ones? They conceded that it's not gone amazingly well so far but are committed to improvement? Much better than the last 4 boards have presented imo
You're easily pleased.
Rather that than approach everything everyone says with cynicism. What out of interest did you think it was missing and wasn't addressed amongst general fan concerns?
Are we going to stop signing loan players either currently injured or just coming back from injury because it hasn't served us well so far
If we have identified targets, have money to spend, why have we not spent any of it yet
If Andy Scott's performance isn't measured by results, what is it measured by
If training is going so well nowadays why do we only have one formation we can play, haven't kept a clean sheet in 13 games and only won once in 10 games and conceded a goal in 80+ minutes in the last seven games in a row
That do for starters??
They actually addressed your points in the Q&A if you would have stopped listening with a negative agenda as far as I heard
1. They made the point that Bakinson is 'ready baked' and not injured and also added to the point that the deal was ratified by the EFL quite late into the window so didn't have the time they would have liked to bring in the players they wanted
2. They literally said it's a sellers market and that things at the moment look like they will happen late in the window, premier league clubs not releasing players as normal because of AFCON and Asian Championships which is affecting player movement down the chain
3. They said Scott is doing a lot behind the scenes and isn't solely measured on transfers, as people that work with him day in day out the 3 didn't seem to have concerns about what he's doing currently. I'm sure that will change if poor results continue
4. The only question that wasn't asked and probably one that would have been good to field to them but they alluded to the new head of fitness performance joining from Brighton having an impact on player fitness which they nodded to as a reason why were struggling to compete late into games.
It's been a rough couple of months but they didn't skirt around the fact it's been so, did you want them to publically come out and slate the staff and managers instead of explaining rationale around their decisions?
Contradicts what’s been communicated to Swisdom and Dubai a bit if loans are going to be the focus
They literally said that permanent transfers are the focus during the next few windows, some stuff was frustrating to hear but I feel more confident with this structure than I ever did with Thomas, Roland or Mouthall
Contradicts what’s been communicated to Swisdom and Dubai a bit if loans are going to be the focus
They literally said that permanent transfers are the focus during the next few windows, some stuff was frustrating to hear but I feel more confident with this structure than I ever did with Thomas, Roland or Mouthall
I am sorry but we are well and truly in our banter era territory firmly still. That slideshow shit was the most amateur, cringe thing I've seen for a while.
Was it made by a 12 year old?
Why are they listing slides with objectives that shouldn't be objectives, as every professional club should be doing them at a base level!
Challenges Identified!
Solutions?!
Clowns.
you missed the first slide about the finances and performance of the club. the club has lost £45 million over the previous 7 seasons.
I think the club has only made money in two years since 2000, the year they sold Parker and the year they sold Darren Bent.
Contradicts what’s been communicated to Swisdom and Dubai a bit if loans are going to be the focus
They literally said that permanent transfers are the focus during the next few windows, some stuff was frustrating to hear but I feel more confident with this structure than I ever did with Thomas, Roland or Mouthall
Oh great Setting the bar high there.
What bar are you thinking about? The wave a magic wand a woosh we are successful overnight one? Cause hate to break it to you we have spent most of our last 10 years in league one, not being particularly well managed, it's clear it will take time to fix and unpick the neglect we have been under
I honestly doubted the vision behind it all but thought they addressed all the questions well, so much talk of scripted questions but they clearly answered some difficult ones? They conceded that it's not gone amazingly well so far but are committed to improvement? Much better than the last 4 boards have presented imo
You're easily pleased.
Rather that than approach everything everyone says with cynicism. What out of interest did you think it was missing and wasn't addressed amongst general fan concerns?
Substance, mostly. That was the kind of presentation that probably would work quite well if you pitched it at some American speculators looking to invest in that limey soccerball game but to a bunch of fans who've been sold a whole series of pigs in pokes recently it was fluff and soft-soap stuff at best.
Sign good players on a permanent basis, give them to a manager/coach with actual vision and charisma and then and only then will I be convinced that they are anything other than deluded at best, chancers at worst.
Contradicts what’s been communicated to Swisdom and Dubai a bit if loans are going to be the focus
Again that wasn’t said, he said permanent bids are in and it’s a bit of a waiting game but if they don’t get over the line then it might have to be some loans until the summer but it’s not for the want of trying.
Thanks to them for trying to engage. However, despite their efforts the 3 speakers communicated so little of substance in so many vacuous words that I'm sorry I often felt I was being subjected to a slightly less annoying mark 2 version of Katrien Meire's patronising slide show. Never mind, things can only get better.
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- I think he actually was saying Premier League youth player loans, unless they're a Gallagher/Rak-Sakyi level, might not be better than KA.
- Pretty much, or at least laying the groundwork for it being a strong possibility.
If we have identified targets, have money to spend, why have we not spent any of it yet
If Andy Scott's performance isn't measured by results, what is it measured by
If training is going so well nowadays why do we only have one formation we can play, haven't kept a clean sheet in 13 games and only won once in 10 games and conceded a goal in 80+ minutes in the last seven games in a row
That do for starters??
2. They made it clear we've made what they consider good offers to both of them but the ball is in their court regarding signing, it didn't sound overly promising in that regard but they can't force them at gunpoint to sign a new deal
Endless waffle to avoid having to specifically address the question/issue.
When I put a difficult question to Scott that he couldn't answer, he turned it into a joke at my expense to avoid answering. I knew then the measure of the man.
he should have held his hands up and said we've made some very poor signings.
1. They made the point that Bakinson is 'ready baked' and not injured and also added to the point that the deal was ratified by the EFL quite late into the window so didn't have the time they would have liked to bring in the players they wanted
2. They literally said it's a sellers market and that things at the moment look like they will happen late in the window, premier league clubs not releasing players as normal because of AFCON and Asian Championships which is affecting player movement down the chain
3. They said Scott is doing a lot behind the scenes and isn't solely measured on transfers, as people that work with him day in day out the 3 didn't seem to have concerns about what he's doing currently. I'm sure that will change if poor results continue
4. The only question that wasn't asked and probably one that would have been good to field to them but they alluded to the new head of fitness performance joining from Brighton having an impact on player fitness which they nodded to as a reason why were struggling to compete late into games.
It's been a rough couple of months but they didn't skirt around the fact it's been so, did you want them to publically come out and slate the staff and managers instead of explaining rationale around their decisions?
They are fed by Methven in some shape or form....he couldn't tell the truth if he tried
Setting the bar high there.
Sign good players on a permanent basis, give them to a manager/coach with actual vision and charisma and then and only then will I be convinced that they are anything other than deluded at best, chancers at worst.
However he also said Lionel Messi has passed his medical, and him and Andy Scott are crossing the T's and dotting the i's at wimpy as we speak.