Dean Lewington .. Record Breaker
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Is he the ginger one?0
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Or AFC who shouldn't exist or go back to non league where they belongCarter said:1 club, 1 franchise who should not exist1 -
They've earned the right to be there.OhMyGodden said:
Or AFC who shouldn't exist or go back to non league where they belongCarter said:1 club, 1 franchise who should not exist10 -
JaShea99 said:Is he the ginger one?
Yes, a good way of describing him - a factual point without underlying intent.1 -
Can’t believe I missed this thread first time round!0
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Agree. And if I had to describe the degree to which he’s ginger, I’d say he’s very ginger.SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:Is he the ginger one?
Yes, a good way of describing him - a factual point without underlying intent.0 -
Definitely not auburn.1
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JaShea99 said:
Agree. And if I had to describe the degree to which he’s ginger, I’d say he’s very ginger.SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:Is he the ginger one?
Yes, a good way of describing him - a factual point without underlying intent.
Interesting. When describing ethnicity, would you also say "very black" for example?
You see, that's where you move from description to implication.
Let me just summarise where I come from in regards to this.
A couple of posts on this thread simply call out Lewington because he's ginger - there is no other reason to do this than some form of denigration / mocking / piss taking. Go back to the 70's and its possible the same people might have made a similar post about Viv Anderson. An underlying current based on a characteristic that is not subjective.
Now I'm not suggesting anyone on this thread would have done so - just that it's a possibility, because if you are minded to do it to Lewington because of a natural characteristic, you may be inclined to look at other natural characteristics.
I've put a link to a website further up - perhaps the quote copied below from that website illustrates my point. If after reading this, anyone thinks it's banter that doesn't impact people, then not a lot I can say. What I would say is that its likely that they would only mock others on the internet, and would melt if they ever dared to actually do it in the real world.The National Bullying Helpline is delighted to welcome Paul Gorton on board as Ambassador... Paul’s objective is to work alongside us to help combat one particular aspect of anti-social behaviour that is all too often underestimated simply because it is not recognised as discrimination. We are talking about Gingerism and the hate crimes and trolling that tend to accompany this grotesquely unacceptable form of bullying. In particular, with Paul’s support, we will address the myth that implies Gingerism is not real. It is sadly all too real - as Paul will tell you. Paul was punched, headbutted and mocked as a young boy just because he had red hair. Even today, people think it acceptable to comment inappropriately or condescendingly because a person has red hair....We propose to address this while reaching out to those, whatever their age, who struggle with bullying due to the colour of their hair. It is intolerable, unacceptable, conduct that we need to eliminate as best we can.
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Don't think Viv was ginger!SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:
Agree. And if I had to describe the degree to which he’s ginger, I’d say he’s very ginger.SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:Is he the ginger one?
Yes, a good way of describing him - a factual point without underlying intent.
Interesting. When describing ethnicity, would you also say "very black" for example?
You see, that's where you move from description to implication.
Let me just summarise where I come from in regards to this.
A couple of posts on this thread simply call out Lewington because he's ginger - there is no other reason to do this than some form of denigration / mocking / piss taking. Go back to the 70's and its possible the same people might have made a similar post about Viv Anderson. An underlying current based on a characteristic that is not subjective.
Now I'm not suggesting anyone on this thread would have done so - just that it's a possibility, because if you are minded to do it to Lewington because of a natural characteristic, you may be inclined to look at other natural characteristics.
I've put a link to a website further up - perhaps the quote copied below from that website illustrates my point. If after reading this, anyone thinks it's banter that doesn't impact people, then not a lot I can say. What I would say is that its likely that they would only mock others on the internet, and would melt if they ever dared to actually do it in the real world.The National Bullying Helpline is delighted to welcome Paul Gorton on board as Ambassador... Paul’s objective is to work alongside us to help combat one particular aspect of anti-social behaviour that is all too often underestimated simply because it is not recognised as discrimination. We are talking about Gingerism and the hate crimes and trolling that tend to accompany this grotesquely unacceptable form of bullying. In particular, with Paul’s support, we will address the myth that implies Gingerism is not real. It is sadly all too real - as Paul will tell you. Paul was punched, headbutted and mocked as a young boy just because he had red hair. Even today, people think it acceptable to comment inappropriately or condescendingly because a person has red hair....We propose to address this while reaching out to those, whatever their age, who struggle with bullying due to the colour of their hair. It is intolerable, unacceptable, conduct that we need to eliminate as best we can.
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Dad Ray Lewington in his much younger years
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You must be on a wind up.SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:
Agree. And if I had to describe the degree to which he’s ginger, I’d say he’s very ginger.SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:Is he the ginger one?
Yes, a good way of describing him - a factual point without underlying intent.
Interesting. When describing ethnicity, would you also say "very black" for example?
You see, that's where you move from description to implication.
Let me just summarise where I come from in regards to this.
A couple of posts on this thread simply call out Lewington because he's ginger - there is no other reason to do this than some form of denigration / mocking / piss taking. Go back to the 70's and its possible the same people might have made a similar post about Viv Anderson. An underlying current based on a characteristic that is not subjective.
Now I'm not suggesting anyone on this thread would have done so - just that it's a possibility, because if you are minded to do it to Lewington because of a natural characteristic, you may be inclined to look at other natural characteristics.
I've put a link to a website further up - perhaps the quote copied below from that website illustrates my point. If after reading this, anyone thinks it's banter that doesn't impact people, then not a lot I can say. What I would say is that its likely that they would only mock others on the internet, and would melt if they ever dared to actually do it in the real world.The National Bullying Helpline is delighted to welcome Paul Gorton on board as Ambassador... Paul’s objective is to work alongside us to help combat one particular aspect of anti-social behaviour that is all too often underestimated simply because it is not recognised as discrimination. We are talking about Gingerism and the hate crimes and trolling that tend to accompany this grotesquely unacceptable form of bullying. In particular, with Paul’s support, we will address the myth that implies Gingerism is not real. It is sadly all too real - as Paul will tell you. Paul was punched, headbutted and mocked as a young boy just because he had red hair. Even today, people think it acceptable to comment inappropriately or condescendingly because a person has red hair....We propose to address this while reaching out to those, whatever their age, who struggle with bullying due to the colour of their hair. It is intolerable, unacceptable, conduct that we need to eliminate as best we can.
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church-lane said:
Don't think Viv was ginger!SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:
Agree. And if I had to describe the degree to which he’s ginger, I’d say he’s very ginger.SporadicAddick said:JaShea99 said:Is he the ginger one?
Yes, a good way of describing him - a factual point without underlying intent.
Interesting. When describing ethnicity, would you also say "very black" for example?
You see, that's where you move from description to implication.
Let me just summarise where I come from in regards to this.
A couple of posts on this thread simply call out Lewington because he's ginger - there is no other reason to do this than some form of denigration / mocking / piss taking. Go back to the 70's and its possible the same people might have made a similar post about Viv Anderson. An underlying current based on a characteristic that is not subjective.
Now I'm not suggesting anyone on this thread would have done so - just that it's a possibility, because if you are minded to do it to Lewington because of a natural characteristic, you may be inclined to look at other natural characteristics.
I've put a link to a website further up - perhaps the quote copied below from that website illustrates my point. If after reading this, anyone thinks it's banter that doesn't impact people, then not a lot I can say. What I would say is that its likely that they would only mock others on the internet, and would melt if they ever dared to actually do it in the real world.The National Bullying Helpline is delighted to welcome Paul Gorton on board as Ambassador... Paul’s objective is to work alongside us to help combat one particular aspect of anti-social behaviour that is all too often underestimated simply because it is not recognised as discrimination. We are talking about Gingerism and the hate crimes and trolling that tend to accompany this grotesquely unacceptable form of bullying. In particular, with Paul’s support, we will address the myth that implies Gingerism is not real. It is sadly all too real - as Paul will tell you. Paul was punched, headbutted and mocked as a young boy just because he had red hair. Even today, people think it acceptable to comment inappropriately or condescendingly because a person has red hair....We propose to address this while reaching out to those, whatever their age, who struggle with bullying due to the colour of their hair. It is intolerable, unacceptable, conduct that we need to eliminate as best we can.
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The very first diversity course I was sent on was led by some old sweat of an instructor and he got our flagging attention by saying, and it was 20 plus years ago so possibly not word for word
"Looks lads, we are entering a time where the workplace is changing and you have to be really, really careful what you say regarding race, gender, sexuality but I predict in 20 years time you will still be able to say whatever the fuck you want about ginger people and the French and you will be OK"
For what its worth I don't think the argument about discrimination is without merit. There isn't anything someone can do about the natural colour of their hair, some ginger people don't give a monkies, I bet a lot are just sick of being told they smell like roast beef flavoured monster munch, or that they must melt in the sun, or any other cheap jibe.
When Reading fans did a ginger day in honour of Steve Sidwell and Dave Kitson one player of the two thought it was hilarious and went all in for it, the other thought it was demeaning and disrespectful.
For what its worth my abuse of Lewington was always along the line of "you are fucking shit Lewington" as @SporadicAddick says, I'd be pretty embarrassed if he pulled me up and the best I could manage was that zinger above or to say something nasty about his hair or skin pigmentation.0 -
AFC shouldn't exist (because their club shouldn't have been relocated). When criticising AFC Wimbledon consider that was very nearly Charlton and what could have been for this fanbase.OhMyGodden said:
Or AFC who shouldn't exist or go back to non league where they belongCarter said:1 club, 1 franchise who should not exist
They did it the right way (starting from the bottom), as oppose to a Division One (Championship) team relocating to a different city.1
