I’m actually against clubs being punished for having bad owners. That is to say, if they fail to pay wages etc. Yes, they should have a transfer embargo, but not points deductions.
I think it is clubs that have owners that bend finacial rules to overspend who should be punished with points deductions. Severely.
So Sheffield Wednesday who were/are sponsored by a taxi firm that has never had a passenger but is also, by coincidence owned by Chansiri who owns the club and then used that sponsorship money to pass FFP rules and bring in players they now can't afford to pay should or shouldn't be punished.
Weren’t they lucky to duck a points deduction the season we went down, which would have meant they dropped instead of us? Then they got the deduction the following season? Or am I mis remembering?
I’m actually against clubs being punished for having bad owners. That is to say, if they fail to pay wages etc. Yes, they should have a transfer embargo, but not points deductions.
I think it is clubs that have owners that bend finacial rules to overspend who should be punished with points deductions. Severely.
So Sheffield Wednesday who were/are sponsored by a taxi firm that has never had a passenger but is also, by coincidence owned by Chansiri who owns the club and then used that sponsorship money to pass FFP rules and bring in players they now can't afford to pay should or shouldn't be punished.
Not with a points deduction for not paying wages. Imo. But a transfer embargo, yes.
They should have been punished with a points deduction for the fake sponsorship deal. And were.
Btw, I said clubs. As I was talking about football clubs in general. Sheffield Wednesday are a complicated case, as they’re two sides of the bad owner coin - an unscruplulus owner trying to gain an advantage / but also a bad owner lettig the club down.
Weren’t they lucky to duck a points deduction the season we went down, which would have meant they dropped instead of us? Then they got the deduction the following season? Or am I mis remembering?
Which was extra galling for the fans of Wigan who had their own points deduction applied immediately and thus were relegated alongside ourselves and Hull that season.
Thankfully the points deduction, when it was applied the following season, did end up relegating them - serving a delayed justice. Didn’t help us out much though.
I've never minded Sheffield Wednesday as a club. They were a top flight team for years when i was a kid and i've always seen them as a 'proper' club.
The sooner they can get rid of Chansiri the better. The EFL needs to keep putting the pressure on him (like they eventually did with Reading) to try and force him to sell.
Seen £100m banded about as the figure he wants to sell for which seems completely barmy when any new owner would need to invest a significant amount of money into Hillsborough before they even touched the playing side of things.
One of my favourite stadiums in the country, proper ground
Mine too but the fans are rabid morons. I remember them attacking woman and children as we left the ground during the the Chris Powell promotion season .
Wednesday are a horrible club and are disliked by all the other Yorkshire clubs. The fans and the stadium are straight out of the seventies and the owner is about as dodgy as they come. I’m not a fan of Sheffield as a city but am really pleased that Sheffield United have leapfrogged over Wednesday.
Wednesdayite mate thinks Chansiri wants the embargo so he can blame that for not buying any players to strengthen the team.
I have a few Wednesday mates, they think he'll hold firm on the release clause for Rohl. He's done wonders there with Powell. Chansiri is another shocking owner, of Dushitelet proportions.
Wednesday are a horrible club and are disliked by all the other Yorkshire clubs. The fans and the stadium are straight out of the seventies and the owner is about as dodgy as they come. I’m not a fan of Sheffield as a city but am really pleased that Sheffield United have leapfrogged over Wednesday.
Am not sure about their supporters, I have always found them sound.
Wilder got his come uppance with not getting promotion, he's not a likeable character apparently.
Sheffield is a wonderful city with tonnes going for it. I always preferred Wednesday to United when I lived there for 3 years as a student but that pendulum has swung to United in the years since they fudged their lines on the last day of the season against Palace all those years ago... What could have been eh.
Wednesday are a horrible club and are disliked by all the other Yorkshire clubs. The fans and the stadium are straight out of the seventies and the owner is about as dodgy as they come. I’m not a fan of Sheffield as a city but am really pleased that Sheffield United have leapfrogged over Wednesday.
Am not sure about their supporters, I have always found them sound.
Wilder got his come uppance with not getting promotion, he's not a likeable character apparently.
Agreed. As much as the wind up guys big up The Wednesday, when you sit with their fans, they are like any other set of fans with the same (maybe more at the moment) groans about owner and quality of football.
As you say EA, Sheffield is a great friendly place to go out and having moved from South London in the 70's my dad loves the place and we too enjoy a pint in New Barack Tavern, Kelham Island Tavern, Shakespeares, Fat Cat, all friendly places with a good beer. That said after almost 50 years, we're 'Not from round ere'
Wednesday are a horrible club and are disliked by all the other Yorkshire clubs. The fans and the stadium are straight out of the seventies and the owner is about as dodgy as they come. I’m not a fan of Sheffield as a city but am really pleased that Sheffield United have leapfrogged over Wednesday.
Am not sure about their supporters, I have always found them sound.
Wilder got his come uppance with not getting promotion, he's not a likeable character apparently.
Agreed. As much as the wind up guys big up The Wednesday, when you sit with their fans, they are like any other set of fans with the same (maybe more at the moment) groans about owner and quality of football.
As you say EA, Sheffield is a great friendly place to go out and having moved from South London in the 70's my dad loves the place and we too enjoy a pint in New Barack Tavern, Kelham Island Tavern, Shakespeares, Fat Cat, all friendly places with a good beer. That said after almost 50 years, we're 'Not from round ere'
I lived in Norton Lees, Sheffield for a bit. I loved it. Great city for going out & music. This was the early 2000s. People are really friendly. It is funny, as my impression was Wednesday was more like Palace, ie lots of fans from the suburbs, liked drums & banners etc., whereas United were the working class team of the city & more down to earth, but also more likely to have a punch up. I saw it go off lots of times down London Road.
Wednesday are a horrible club and are disliked by all the other Yorkshire clubs. The fans and the stadium are straight out of the seventies and the owner is about as dodgy as they come. I’m not a fan of Sheffield as a city but am really pleased that Sheffield United have leapfrogged over Wednesday.
Am not sure about their supporters, I have always found them sound.
Wilder got his come uppance with not getting promotion, he's not a likeable character apparently.
Agreed. As much as the wind up guys big up The Wednesday, when you sit with their fans, they are like any other set of fans with the same (maybe more at the moment) groans about owner and quality of football.
As you say EA, Sheffield is a great friendly place to go out and having moved from South London in the 70's my dad loves the place and we too enjoy a pint in New Barack Tavern, Kelham Island Tavern, Shakespeares, Fat Cat, all friendly places with a good beer. That said after almost 50 years, we're 'Not from round ere'
I lived in Norton Lees, Sheffield for a bit. I loved it. Great city for going out & music. This was the early 2000s. People are really friendly. It is funny, as my impression was Wednesday was more like Palace, ie lots of fans from the suburbs, liked drums & banners etc., whereas United were the working class team of the city & more down to earth, but also more likely to have a punch up. I saw it go off lots of times down London Road.
You've probably been asked this before, "are you a Milwall supporter?"
One of my favourite stadiums in the country, proper ground
Three quarters of it are great. Some numpties let down Wednesday and I don't recall meeting any blades that weren't decent people, probably means I haven't met many blades! The premiership would be richer with those two instead of the likes of Bournemouth, nigels and Brentford.
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So Sheffield Wednesday who were/are sponsored by a taxi firm that has never had a passenger but is also, by coincidence owned by Chansiri who owns the club and then used that sponsorship money to pass FFP rules and bring in players they now can't afford to pay should or shouldn't be punished.
They should have been punished with a points deduction for the fake sponsorship deal. And were.
Thankfully the points deduction, when it was applied the following season, did end up relegating them - serving a delayed justice. Didn’t help us out much though.
The sooner they can get rid of Chansiri the better. The EFL needs to keep putting the pressure on him (like they eventually did with Reading) to try and force him to sell.
Chansiri is another shocking owner, of Dushitelet proportions.
Wilder got his come uppance with not getting promotion, he's not a likeable character apparently.
Agreed. As much as the wind up guys big up The Wednesday, when you sit with their fans, they are like any other set of fans with the same (maybe more at the moment) groans about owner and quality of football.
As you say EA, Sheffield is a great friendly place to go out and having moved from South London in the 70's my dad loves the place and we too enjoy a pint in New Barack Tavern, Kelham Island Tavern, Shakespeares, Fat Cat, all friendly places with a good beer. That said after almost 50 years, we're 'Not from round ere'
Same can't be said about their fans though,
Proper wronguns.