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  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    Totally agree re the EFL they are terrified of taking on a so called big club ! In this case they have broken the rules to the detriment of other clubs for years and got away with it and it has to stop. The only organisation worse imo is the EPL 
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 985
    Less than a month to go until the start of season and still no points deduction for them and other transgressors. The EFL really isn't fit for purpose.
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,378
    Gisappointed said:
    Less than a month to go until the start of season and still no points deduction for them and other transgressors. The EFL really isn't fit for purpose.
    All quiet re man city and all
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited July 9
    I hope they get taken over as it is terrible when clubs go out of bussiness. We are all football fans and find a way to hate each other when we have a lot in common. Yes, Sheffield Wednesday have a lot of bellends as fans, but so do all clubs, including ourselves. I hate Palace and Millwall because that is my job as a Charlton fan but I do know some very decent Palace and Millwall fans.

    It is difficult to see a take over completing before the end of the transfer window so they are going down this season. But they can come back if it happens rather than disappear.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I hope they get taken over as it is terrible when clubs go out of bussiness. We are all football fans and find a way to hate each other when we have a lot in common. Yes, Sheffield Wednesday have a lot of bellends as fans, but so do all clubs, including ourselves. I hate Palace and Millwall because that is my job as a Charlton fan but I do know some very decent Palace and Millwall fans.

    It is difficult to see a take over completing before the end of the transfer window so they are going down this season. But they can come back if it happens rather than disappear.
    I think a sale has to happen by then as Chansiri can't/won't fund them any further and he will lose out on any remaining value left in the club. He has to accept a deal in the next few weeks.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    I think The EFL are giving Wednesday as much time as possible to try and get a meaningful sale negotiation underway before the season starts. I don’t see though how financial guarantees would be forthcoming from a buyer until DD is complete which isn’t going to happen between now and August 9th. Unless of course a lot has been going on with a sale in complete secrecy which seems unlikely. Hard not to see a points deduction being given and I guess the question is just how big. Twelve is my guess. The bigger question is when do The EFL demand guarantees as to finances enough to complete the season. If the club remains in the hands of the current owner it’s hard to see such guarantees being made or believed. A lot to happen all in four weeks unless of course The EFL bottle it and allow Wednesday to start the season without the money to complete it. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,023
    edited July 9
    As a potential buyer I would be worried about what skeletons are in the books with someone like Chansiri. Even if someone agreed a deal this week you'd be tight to get it done for the end of the transfer window even with the best lawyers etc 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    Looking like Gassama is on his way to Rangers. Probably on a knock down fee so that Chansiri has a few quid to stop some of the players who have handed in their notice from leaving for nothing. 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,038
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Looking like Gassama is on his way to Rangers. Probably on a knock down fee so that Chansiri has a few quid to stop some of the players who have handed in their notice from leaving for nothing. 
    Damn…for a second there I thought that was some sort of shortened form of Gassan Ahadme and he was off to Rangers!! Which would have be nice 😉
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    Talk of Americans in talks with Chansiri which is good news for them but time is against saving this season I would think. 
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  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,210
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I hope they get taken over as it is terrible when clubs go out of bussiness. We are all football fans and find a way to hate each other when we have a lot in common. Yes, Sheffield Wednesday have a lot of bellends as fans, but so do all clubs, including ourselves. I hate Palace and Millwall because that is my job as a Charlton fan but I do know some very decent Palace and Millwall fans.

    It is difficult to see a take over completing before the end of the transfer window so they are going down this season. But they can come back if it happens rather than disappear.
    I think a sale has to happen by then as Chansiri can't/won't fund them any further and he will lose out on any remaining value left in the club. He has to accept a deal in the next few weeks.
    Any potential new owner would be crazy to jump in quick and buy the club within weeks. It's highly likely Chansiri has done dodgy things over the year that are hidden in the accounts etc.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think The EFL are giving Wednesday as much time as possible to try and get a meaningful sale negotiation underway before the season starts. I don’t see though how financial guarantees would be forthcoming from a buyer until DD is complete which isn’t going to happen between now and August 9th. Unless of course a lot has been going on with a sale in complete secrecy which seems unlikely. Hard not to see a points deduction being given and I guess the question is just how big. Twelve is my guess. The bigger question is when do The EFL demand guarantees as to finances enough to complete the season. If the club remains in the hands of the current owner it’s hard to see such guarantees being made or believed. A lot to happen all in four weeks unless of course The EFL bottle it and allow Wednesday to start the season without the money to complete it. 
    Reduced to 3 on appeal
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Talk of Americans in talks with Chansiri which is good news for them but time is against saving this season I would think. 
    Hank Southall 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    stoneroses19 said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I hope they get taken over as it is terrible when clubs go out of bussiness. We are all football fans and find a way to hate each other when we have a lot in common. Yes, Sheffield Wednesday have a lot of bellends as fans, but so do all clubs, including ourselves. I hate Palace and Millwall because that is my job as a Charlton fan but I do know some very decent Palace and Millwall fans.

    It is difficult to see a take over completing before the end of the transfer window so they are going down this season. But they can come back if it happens rather than disappear.
    I think a sale has to happen by then as Chansiri can't/won't fund them any further and he will lose out on any remaining value left in the club. He has to accept a deal in the next few weeks.
    Any potential new owner would be crazy to jump in quick and buy the club within weeks. It's highly likely Chansiri has done dodgy things over the year that are hidden in the accounts etc.
    Agreed. I guess in some cases you could potentially do due diligence in a month, but with Chansiri who knows how many rabbit holes you're going to have to go down to get to the bottom of their finances, so it will likely take a lot longer for sure.

    Even if a deal was agreed today, they'd have just under 8 weeks to complete DD, get approved by the EFL, clear the debts and then make signings. Seems a pretty tough task.
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think The EFL are giving Wednesday as much time as possible to try and get a meaningful sale negotiation underway before the season starts. I don’t see though how financial guarantees would be forthcoming from a buyer until DD is complete which isn’t going to happen between now and August 9th. Unless of course a lot has been going on with a sale in complete secrecy which seems unlikely. Hard not to see a points deduction being given and I guess the question is just how big. Twelve is my guess. The bigger question is when do The EFL demand guarantees as to finances enough to complete the season. If the club remains in the hands of the current owner it’s hard to see such guarantees being made or believed. A lot to happen all in four weeks unless of course The EFL bottle it and allow Wednesday to start the season without the money to complete it. 
    as sure as night follows day
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,038
    charltonbob said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Talk of Americans in talks with Chansiri which is good news for them but time is against saving this season I would think. 
    Hank Southall 
    And his lawyer, Charles Farnell III 
  • West2003
    West2003 Posts: 386
    Danny Rohl set to return.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,015
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    stoneroses19 said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I hope they get taken over as it is terrible when clubs go out of bussiness. We are all football fans and find a way to hate each other when we have a lot in common. Yes, Sheffield Wednesday have a lot of bellends as fans, but so do all clubs, including ourselves. I hate Palace and Millwall because that is my job as a Charlton fan but I do know some very decent Palace and Millwall fans.

    It is difficult to see a take over completing before the end of the transfer window so they are going down this season. But they can come back if it happens rather than disappear.
    I think a sale has to happen by then as Chansiri can't/won't fund them any further and he will lose out on any remaining value left in the club. He has to accept a deal in the next few weeks.
    Any potential new owner would be crazy to jump in quick and buy the club within weeks. It's highly likely Chansiri has done dodgy things over the year that are hidden in the accounts etc.
    Agreed. I guess in some cases you could potentially do due diligence in a month, but with Chansiri who knows how many rabbit holes you're going to have to go down to get to the bottom of their finances, so it will likely take a lot longer for sure.

    Even if a deal was agreed today, they'd have just under 8 weeks to complete DD, get approved by the EFL, clear the debts and then make signings. Seems a pretty tough task.
    Chansiri is more slippery than an ice rink.  He no doubt has a lot of 'hidden extras' in the cupboard.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    West2003 said:
    Danny Rohl set to return.
    Implies that a sale is very much on the cards. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,611
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    West2003 said:
    Danny Rohl set to return.
    Implies that a sale is very much on the cards. 
    Indeed it does.

    I imagine it will be all done & dusted by the end of the month, a whole load of players signed before the transfer window shuts & SW end up safe in mid table.
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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,875
    I hope any sale falls through. Their fans are the worst by far. Every single one of them seems to be up for fighting all and sundry. I’ve had conversations with Leeds and Birmingham fans but Sheffield Wednesday are a different scummy breed.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I hope any sale falls through. Their fans are the worst by far. Every single one of them seems to be up for fighting all and sundry. I’ve had conversations with Leeds and Birmingham fans but Sheffield Wednesday are a different scummy breed.
    Universally disliked in Yorkshire.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    West2003 said:
    Danny Rohl set to return.
    Implies that a sale is very much on the cards. 
    Not necessarily. As far as i'm aware he hasn't had any other managerial offers and as he's been paid he is still under contract at Wednesday. He might have been legally advised to return to avoid any breach of contract issues, and is just hoping a takeover happens soon.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,233
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I hope any sale falls through. Their fans are the worst by far. Every single one of them seems to be up for fighting all and sundry. I’ve had conversations with Leeds and Birmingham fans but Sheffield Wednesday are a different scummy breed.
    The last time I posted to say they weren't all bad, I was accused of being positive about them, reprimanded for non attendance of games, and told I was thick. So I'll say I agree 100%. All bad to the bone. Good riddance 😉

  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,956
    edited July 9
    My impression of them is not positive, and furthermore I seem to be in a minority that thinks Hillsborough is a shitty ground.
    I hope Rohl's return gives them false hope.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,217
    edited July 9
    IdleHans said:
    My impression of them is not positive, and furthermore I seem to be in a minority that thinks Hillsborough is a shitty ground.
    I hope Roln's return gives them false hope.
    It's looking a bit tired and probably in need of the odd repair and lick of paint like most grounds do over the years. Fair to say even The Valley has looked a bit tired in recent times and still does in some parts but do you don't host FA Cup Semis and Euro 96 games for being a shitty ground.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,015
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I hope any sale falls through. Their fans are the worst by far. Every single one of them seems to be up for fighting all and sundry. I’ve had conversations with Leeds and Birmingham fans but Sheffield Wednesday are a different scummy breed.

    St Andrews 1987 play-offs, Leeds and the Zulus were not very pleasant, on another level to Wednesday methinks.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,721
    IdleHans said:
    My impression of them is not positive, and furthermore I seem to be in a minority that thinks Hillsborough is a shitty ground.
    I hope Rohl's return gives them false hope.
    I think Hillsborough is a wonderful stadium with a fantastic atmosphere when it's full . The problem is that it's now falling apart. 
    As for their fans - Proper scummy. 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,038
    MartinCAFC said:
    IdleHans said:
    My impression of them is not positive, and furthermore I seem to be in a minority that thinks Hillsborough is a shitty ground.
    I hope Roln's return gives them false hope.
    It's looking a bit tired and probably in need of the odd repair and lick of paint like most grounds do over the years. Fair to say even The Valley has looked a bit tired in recent times and still does in some parts but do you don't host FA Cup Semis and Euro 96 games for being a shitty ground.
    Almost 36 years since that semi-final and nearly 30 years since the Euros, (where they got Denmark’s group games) and they probably shouldn’t have been included then. Hillsborough was creaking then and had little to no upgrades since then. 

    Probably more akin to The Valley when the Glikstens did the bare minimum to keep it going than any comparison today. 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,611
    I suspect they are fucked. Labour looking like it’s going to introduce a 2% wealth tax on assets of £10 million or more could well put the kibosh on buying a football club. Imagine owning a a club valued at £50 million that not only doesn’t pay any dividends but also actually costs you a small fortune to keep going each year and then being told you owe HMRC 2% of the the value of the asset. I doubt any club will get sold until there is more clarity of that particular tax.

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