Terry Taylor - (pg.18 Joined Northampton on loan)

soapboxsam

Is Terry Taylor a bespoke signing ?

NabySarr

fenaddick said:

Looks so different in this video I genuinely thought he was a new signing https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1806251371899081214?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw

Looks like he’s picked up a good tan, not surprised as he’s probably been on holiday since March 

MintoHumbugs

fenaddick said:

Looks so different in this video I genuinely thought he was a new signing https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1806251371899081214?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw

Terry Taylor has always been like a new signing . 

North Lower Neil

fenaddick said:

Looks so different in this video I genuinely thought he was a new signing https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1806251371899081214?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw

Forgot what he looked like in the first place to be honest.

oohaahmortimer

How can they all look that good but create a junk league one team 

seth plum

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Talal

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

wmcf123

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Neither Doherty nor Berry have pulled up trees so far.  Anderson serves a purpose but his technically lacking.  I wonder if there's space for Taylor and Coventry to free up space for another striker.

Braziliance

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Agreed, I'd like to see Taylor and Coventry together in midfield. I'd be looking at dropping Berry, just don't think he's offered enough so far and may be more impactful from the bench with his goal record. 

We can't ignore our woeful set pieces this season and most of last season, Taylor solves that problem, and he looks a pretty robust player to go with it too.

fenaddick

Braziliance said:

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Agreed, I'd like to see Taylor and Coventry together in midfield. I'd be looking at dropping Berry, just don't think he's offered enough so far and may be more impactful from the bench with his goal record. 

We can't ignore our woeful set pieces this season and most of last season, Taylor solves that problem, and he looks a pretty robust player to go with it too.

Balance would be all off though. Both of them like to play short passes with the intention of setting others off, if you play them both they’ll naturally sit deep so passing options will be limited. 

I agree that Berry looks like he could do with a rest but I’d be putting A Campbell in there instead, he brings a load of energy that we’ve been missing 

DubaiCAFC

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Docherty covers a lot of ground, and key to our press further up the field, I am not sure Coventry and Taylor are suited to that. I was very impressed with him last night, stood out above Campbell. I would like to see Taylor given a chance, but where in this team, and what role I am not so sure!

carly burn

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Coventry covers much more of the pitch and is a bit more combative for me.
Thought Cambridge waltzed past Taylor on a couple of occasions

wmcf123

DubaiCAFC said:

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Docherty covers a lot of ground, and key to our press further up the field, I am not sure Coventry and Taylor are suited to that. I was very impressed with him last night, stood out above Campbell. I would like to see Taylor given a chance, but where in this team, and what role I am not so sure!

But you could play TC, Leaburn/Ahadme and Kanu up front rotating and you wouldn't lose the pressing ability. It would give us more potency going forward too. 

fenaddick

wmcf123 said:

DubaiCAFC said:

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Docherty covers a lot of ground, and key to our press further up the field, I am not sure Coventry and Taylor are suited to that. I was very impressed with him last night, stood out above Campbell. I would like to see Taylor given a chance, but where in this team, and what role I am not so sure!

But you could play TC, Leaburn/Ahadme and Kanu up front rotating and you wouldn't lose the pressing ability. It would give us more potency going forward too. 

That leaves a massive gaping hole between your sitters and your number 10 and a different pressing structure to learn

Ferryman

He did OK but not a performance to justify knocking on the managers door.

Bedsaddick

carly burn said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Coventry covers much more of the pitch and is a bit more combative for me.
Thought Cambridge waltzed past Taylor on a couple of occasions

That’s understandable. He’s been on a desert Island for six months . 

Covered_End_Lad

I like Terry, offers decent cover for Coventry. CC has a little more technically in terms of forward passing.

thenewbie

Ferryman said:

He did OK but not a performance to justify knocking on the managers door.

Agreed, he's definitely good enough to be cover for Coventry but won't be replacing him any time soon. He does look pretty good but Coventry looks better. Unfortunately that's how it goes sometimes in football.

Swisdom

Taylor and Coventry are very similar but that doesn't mean they can't play together.

As much as he faded, it was inevitable he would be slightly rusty so that's to be expected.  I loved some of his dead-ball delivery and his availability and quick -passing did catch the eye

Taylor has definitely not been given enough of a chance with us and probably deserves to get more opportunities when the games come thick and fast over winter.  It will almost be like having a new signing.

Hal1x

Swisdom said:

Taylor and Coventry are very similar but that doesn't mean they can't play together.

As much as he faded, it was inevitable he would be slightly rusty so that's to be expected.  I loved some of his dead-ball delivery and his availability and quick -passing did catch the eye

Taylor has definitely not been given enough of a chance with us and probably deserves to get more opportunities when the games come thick and fast over winter.  It will almost be like having a new signing.

I thought there were a lot of neat and clever passes, both short and long. He also seems to be very mobile, until he understandably tired, I think there is a role for him and he shouldn't be frozen out. If we are playing a high intensity pressing game fresh legs in the 67min sub switch could be useful. Especially when Coventry is often carrying a booking.

ElliotCAFC

Question is can we afford to take anyone out of the subs lineup to accommodate him?

fenaddick

ElliotCAFC said:

Question is can we afford to take anyone out of the subs lineup to accommodate him?

This is the key thing for me. If we had 9 subs on the bench like the PL then he'd definitely be there but NJ likes to have 3 forwards on the bench with one midfielder, two defenders and a keeper. I have no idea why he likes 3 forwards but he's done it every match bar Rotherham & Wigan where we didn't have the personnel for it

Braziliance

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Agreed, I'd like to see Taylor and Coventry together in midfield. I'd be looking at dropping Berry, just don't think he's offered enough so far and may be more impactful from the bench with his goal record. 

We can't ignore our woeful set pieces this season and most of last season, Taylor solves that problem, and he looks a pretty robust player to go with it too.

Balance would be all off though. Both of them like to play short passes with the intention of setting others off, if you play them both they’ll naturally sit deep so passing options will be limited. 

I agree that Berry looks like he could do with a rest but I’d be putting A Campbell in there instead, he brings a load of energy that we’ve been missing 

It would also mean we could actually control the game a bit more in the middle though. 

Hard to ignore that a side like Shrewsbury had the ball more than us and looked more tidy in possession. Of course we can say it's a deliberate strategy, but I still think we lack players with the natural ability to be good on the ball. Taylor has that. 

I also don't think Taylor and Coventry are that similar at all, other than their physical stature and being defensive minded centre mids. Same as the Dobson and Coventry comparisons, they weren't really alike at all either other than both playing in midfield.

Coventry looks to Intercept and keep the game ticking, Taylor strikes me as someone who will look to open the game up with a pass. I'd like to see them both play alongside eachother with Docherty ahead. I just think Berry has been a bit too anonymous for my liking. 

Our biggest weakness this season so far for me has been that midfield, it's highly unlikely we can go a whole season giving up the ball to every side. At the very least we should be dominating teams who will be down the bottom of the table.

We arguably looked the most comfortable I've seen us last night, if it wasn't for Andersons mistakes, they didn't look near us. I put a lot of that down to Taylor, be bossed it. 

https://youtu.be/J0dJp4Ovv0E?feature=shared

Just a reminder of what he can do, I just don't see any other Charlton player offering that from what I've seen so far. 

ForeverAddickted

ElliotCAFC said:

Question is can we afford to take anyone out of the subs lineup to accommodate him?

He probably does need a couple of injuries to happen to get on there - Imagine Edun is preferred because of his versatility (Given previous match squads), not to mention him, and Anderson for example weren't even on the bench either on Saturday... Its a nice feeling to have as a fan at the moment.

fenaddick

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Agreed, I'd like to see Taylor and Coventry together in midfield. I'd be looking at dropping Berry, just don't think he's offered enough so far and may be more impactful from the bench with his goal record. 

We can't ignore our woeful set pieces this season and most of last season, Taylor solves that problem, and he looks a pretty robust player to go with it too.

Balance would be all off though. Both of them like to play short passes with the intention of setting others off, if you play them both they’ll naturally sit deep so passing options will be limited. 

I agree that Berry looks like he could do with a rest but I’d be putting A Campbell in there instead, he brings a load of energy that we’ve been missing 

It would also mean we could actually control the game a bit more in the middle though. 

Hard to ignore that a side like Shrewsbury had the ball more than us and looked more tidy in possession. Of course we can say it's a deliberate strategy, but I still think we lack players with the natural ability to be good on the ball. Taylor has that. 

I also don't think Taylor and Coventry are that similar at all, other than their physical stature and being defensive minded centre mids. Same as the Dobson and Coventry comparisons, they weren't really alike at all either other than both playing in midfield.

Coventry looks to Intercept and keep the game ticking, Taylor strikes me as someone who will look to open the game up with a pass. I'd like to see them both play alongside eachother with Docherty ahead. I just think Berry has been a bit too anonymous for my liking. 

Our biggest weakness this season so far for me has been that midfield, it's highly unlikely we can go a whole season giving up the ball to every side. At the very least we should be dominating teams who will be down the bottom of the table.

We arguably looked the most comfortable I've seen us last night, if it wasn't for Andersons mistakes, they didn't look near us. I put a lot of that down to Taylor, be bossed it. 

https://youtu.be/J0dJp4Ovv0E?feature=shared

Just a reminder of what he can do, I just don't see any other Charlton player offering that from what I've seen so far. 

You're right that the midfield has been a problem, I just don't think TT & CC is the answer. Both have flashes of being able to drive forward but I actually think the issue is about the spaces and passes available to them. Structurally something is a bit off about how me move on the ball. I think Berry could do with a rest but I don't think TT is the man to come in for him.

Hal1x

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Agreed, I'd like to see Taylor and Coventry together in midfield. I'd be looking at dropping Berry, just don't think he's offered enough so far and may be more impactful from the bench with his goal record. 

We can't ignore our woeful set pieces this season and most of last season, Taylor solves that problem, and he looks a pretty robust player to go with it too.

Balance would be all off though. Both of them like to play short passes with the intention of setting others off, if you play them both they’ll naturally sit deep so passing options will be limited. 

I agree that Berry looks like he could do with a rest but I’d be putting A Campbell in there instead, he brings a load of energy that we’ve been missing 

It would also mean we could actually control the game a bit more in the middle though. 

Hard to ignore that a side like Shrewsbury had the ball more than us and looked more tidy in possession. Of course we can say it's a deliberate strategy, but I still think we lack players with the natural ability to be good on the ball. Taylor has that. 

I also don't think Taylor and Coventry are that similar at all, other than their physical stature and being defensive minded centre mids. Same as the Dobson and Coventry comparisons, they weren't really alike at all either other than both playing in midfield.

Coventry looks to Intercept and keep the game ticking, Taylor strikes me as someone who will look to open the game up with a pass. I'd like to see them both play alongside eachother with Docherty ahead. I just think Berry has been a bit too anonymous for my liking. 

Our biggest weakness this season so far for me has been that midfield, it's highly unlikely we can go a whole season giving up the ball to every side. At the very least we should be dominating teams who will be down the bottom of the table.

We arguably looked the most comfortable I've seen us last night, if it wasn't for Andersons mistakes, they didn't look near us. I put a lot of that down to Taylor, be bossed it. 

https://youtu.be/J0dJp4Ovv0E?feature=shared

Just a reminder of what he can do, I just don't see any other Charlton player offering that from what I've seen so far. 

You're right that the midfield has been a problem, I just don't think TT & CC is the answer. Both have flashes of being able to drive forward but I actually think the issue is about the spaces and passes available to them. Structurally something is a bit off about how me move on the ball. I think Berry could do with a rest but I don't think TT is the man to come in for him.

hes worth a try.

Braziliance

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

Talal said:

seth plum said:

Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?

Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place. 

Agreed, I'd like to see Taylor and Coventry together in midfield. I'd be looking at dropping Berry, just don't think he's offered enough so far and may be more impactful from the bench with his goal record. 

We can't ignore our woeful set pieces this season and most of last season, Taylor solves that problem, and he looks a pretty robust player to go with it too.

Balance would be all off though. Both of them like to play short passes with the intention of setting others off, if you play them both they’ll naturally sit deep so passing options will be limited. 

I agree that Berry looks like he could do with a rest but I’d be putting A Campbell in there instead, he brings a load of energy that we’ve been missing 

It would also mean we could actually control the game a bit more in the middle though. 

Hard to ignore that a side like Shrewsbury had the ball more than us and looked more tidy in possession. Of course we can say it's a deliberate strategy, but I still think we lack players with the natural ability to be good on the ball. Taylor has that. 

I also don't think Taylor and Coventry are that similar at all, other than their physical stature and being defensive minded centre mids. Same as the Dobson and Coventry comparisons, they weren't really alike at all either other than both playing in midfield.

Coventry looks to Intercept and keep the game ticking, Taylor strikes me as someone who will look to open the game up with a pass. I'd like to see them both play alongside eachother with Docherty ahead. I just think Berry has been a bit too anonymous for my liking. 

Our biggest weakness this season so far for me has been that midfield, it's highly unlikely we can go a whole season giving up the ball to every side. At the very least we should be dominating teams who will be down the bottom of the table.

We arguably looked the most comfortable I've seen us last night, if it wasn't for Andersons mistakes, they didn't look near us. I put a lot of that down to Taylor, be bossed it. 

https://youtu.be/J0dJp4Ovv0E?feature=shared

Just a reminder of what he can do, I just don't see any other Charlton player offering that from what I've seen so far. 

You're right that the midfield has been a problem, I just don't think TT & CC is the answer. Both have flashes of being able to drive forward but I actually think the issue is about the spaces and passes available to them. Structurally something is a bit off about how me move on the ball. I think Berry could do with a rest but I don't think TT is the man to come in for him.

Yeah fair enough, it probably won't be anyway and I reckon Campbell will get the nod. Would just be nice to look like the home side against a decent side in Blackpool.

Bostonaddick

ElliotCAFC said:

Question is can we afford to take anyone out of the subs lineup to accommodate him?

Against Shrewsbury, we had 3 forwards, 1 midfielder and two defenders as subs.   NJ is never going to play three forwards at the same time so I think the likely answer is Kanu

fenaddick

Bostonaddick said:

ElliotCAFC said:

Question is can we afford to take anyone out of the subs lineup to accommodate him?

Against Shrewsbury, we had 3 forwards, 1 midfielder and two defenders as subs.   NJ is never going to play three forwards at the same time so I think the likely answer is Kanu

He put all 3 forwards on when we were losing against Reading

Bostonaddick

Fen - that’s true.  I stand corrected . I still think having two midfielders in reserve would be more balanced.